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Soonmot posted:OMG if I bugged out Ms Charm's quest again, I'm just done with this game. Vagner won't talk to me because I repeated the wine for stories quest too many times, and making the story myself bugs the questline. I'm going to give it a day, but otherwise rip. You just need to give her a gold story. Vagner's wine for stories thing is somewhat unrelated. The super ultimate story she wants later is something different, and that does require Vagner and a much different drink than wine.
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Awesome, thanks for that!
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Dec 17, 2018 20:39
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Soonmot posted:Awesome, thanks for that! No problem! Also, for blue points the best thing to do is get the merchant stuff done ASAP until you can sell crates of goods. Then you will have enough money to buy both blue books from the astrologer every week. You can also get good money with a combo prayer and by unlocking the Lawn decoration for the graveyard. Put lawns everywhere you don't have graves yet and you get a good amount of graveyard rating, which translates into more money.
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Dec 17, 2018 20:43
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Soonmot posted:OMG if I bugged out Ms Charm's quest again, I'm just done with this game. Vagner won't talk to me because I repeated the wine for stories quest too many times, and making the story myself bugs the questline. I'm going to give it a day, but otherwise rip. This is why I set my zombie to generating stories. You can process the stories into books for pretty decent blue points, and the zombie will craft the stories much quicker than it does books. Also, you realize you can create as many random text generators as you can fit in the lab? Like all other stuff, overdoing it isn't useful as there's a set amount of any item you'll ever need, but if you need blue points a second zombie writer is not a bad investment. Get a zombie with a better corpse rating to make it work faster.
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Dec 17, 2018 22:27
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The stories make more sense now that I think on it. But I'm almost maxed out on blue again. No idea why I didn't think to build multiples. But once I get those furnaces running, I pick up about 20 blues every time I walk outside. Edit yeah my graveyard sucks because I've been doing everything else and just burning corpses
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Dec 17, 2018 23:16
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Soonmot posted:Edit yeah my graveyard sucks because I've been doing everything else and just burning corpses That's why Lawns are so great - zero corpses, just stone and peat. Makes for an easy ~300 graveyard rating without burying anyone once you unlock the left side of the graveyard. You then just tear them out as and when you get corpses to put there.
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Dec 17, 2018 23:45
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Graveyard/church is the best investment for passive income. Once you are done upgrading, it's a quick prayer every week for silver/gold.
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Dec 18, 2018 00:17
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Personally, I just did two zombies making books and focused on the gravestones and anything that could research into blue points. Make sure to eat a cake before doing the research.
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So, from the wiki: Once you give her the perfume, she requests 1xItem star 3.pngStory item.png Story for her show. Note that giving her one will grant you enough Happiness to continue with the Astrologer's quest line. You'll earn 10 Happiness from this. In addition, if you do not try to get the story from Vagner, as of 1.031, the remainder of Vagner's questline will disappear, preventing the Astrologer's quest to help Ms. Charm. She needs a gold star love story and when I speak to Vagner, all I get is the Leave option.
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Dec 18, 2018 07:14
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I don't know why it says that because Vagnar does not give you a gold star story regardless of whether or not you've exhausted his silver star questline.
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Ghostlight posted:I don't know why it says that because Vagnar does not give you a gold star story regardless of whether or not you've exhausted his silver star questline. Good to know, a little more googling tells me that the Vagner questline will continue once I have aristocrat papers.
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Dec 18, 2018 07:57
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IIRC I also thought my game got bugged on the quests at some point. Some googling showed there were indeed some bugs that did that, but some more googling showed that those were fixed. I think the core problem is just that the quest log is really bad at showing progress and what to do sometimes.
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Dec 18, 2018 08:09
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Huh, thread still not in the Archives. Anyway, don't buy their new game, Swag and Sorcery. It's pretty bad.
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Megazver posted:Anyway, don't buy their new game, Swag and Sorcery. It's pretty bad. Why is it bad?
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StrixNebulosa posted:Why is it bad? It's a game with the gameplay depth of your average mobile idle game, but the grind is somehow even worse and the things idle games mercifully automate, this game makes you do by a whole lot of manual clicking. The good pixel art is its only redeeming feature.
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Here's gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNLazFH0Jb8 Yes it does look pointlessly clicky and full of busywork for no real benefit. Calling it a mobile game is not inaccurate I fear, but it is missing the microtransactions to speed up crafting, healing, etc by buying and spending diarrhea crystals or whatever.
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So the humble bundle that has this is ending soon. I heard the early versions were really, really grindy. How is it now that it's been patched up? Edit: I loved the non-talk to people bits of Stardew Valley, how similar / dissimilar is this (not sure if the title is ironic)? Kuule hain nussivan fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jun 4, 2019 |
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Kuule hain nussivan posted:So the humble bundle that has this is ending soon. I heard the early versions were really, really grindy. How is it now that it's been patched up? I never found it obnoxiously grindy until the mid to end of the game, personally, but they have reduced crafting requirements in the last patch they did and increased resources you get for dismantling stuff which is a pretty big deal. They also added a mid to late game way of raising zombies as workers that will mine/chop wood/run a farm or run resources back and forth which cuts down on a lot of the tedium of going to chop down a shitload of trees because you need 50 planks or whatever. It's not tremendously like Stardew but does scratch the same itch of seeing your graveyard improve over time. There are NPC's to talk to but they're all quest givers for the most part that you have to bring stuff to. I petered out towards the end of my playthrough but go back occasionally to plug away at it a little bit more. I never played the game without the zombie workers but can imagine when the game first came out without those a lot of the complaints were due to resource gathering. Once you get into the late game where you need lots of materials for stuff it's nice having them filling up your stock over time so for the most part you never have to go out yourself again for wood or stone or whatever.
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Kuule hain nussivan posted:So the humble bundle that has this is ending soon. I heard the early versions were really, really grindy. How is it now that it's been patched up? I recently started playing this again and I'm getting close to the end game. I do not recommend it. The zombies help, but it is still super grindy. You need 100s of blue science for several end game techs and you usually only get 1-5 at a time for example. More importantly, and worse, the game developer seems to actively hate his players.
You can frequently unlock techs to make something, only to realize you need half a dozen other techs and prerequisites before you can actually use them. The game has farming, and it is, like so many other side-mechanics, mandatory. However, it's significantly harder than Stardew Valley. Notably, there are two mechanics to force diminishing returns on farming. More critically if you're looking for a Stardew Valley clone, the focus of the game is very squarely on the graveyard. It will provide the vast majority of your income even if you try to go ham on farming.
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Isn't the telestone reusable? I recall being annoyed finding that out after I beat the game never buying it because it seemed like a waste of money. It's a little grindy, but there's no penalty for going slow. Crops won't wither, you don't have to water them everyday etc. Just plant them and then pick them once grown. Even corpses can be put on ice (and if you do leave them to rot, just burn them instead). The way the various questlines work is not super considerate of your time though, if that's something you care about. You really want to try and run them parallel not series. For getting blue blobs, that's a matter of learning and using the systems available to you. That said, DO check the BeforeIPlay, there's a couple of bits that are... maybe not total gotchas but can speedbump you if you hit them wrong. This is a comedy game, the NPCs are relatively simple, but not always as one note as they first appear. (but sometimes.) tl:dr Worth it at the Bundle Price. IMO.
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Jun 4, 2019 17:44
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Yeah, it's a one-time purchase and just has a cooldown.
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Also man. I'm not sure I ever got the people who really pushed the graveyard side of stuff. It's so little money compared to selling crops and crates. Getting the sermons powerful is nice, but also barely related. Would have hated gathering wood without zombies though.
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Thanks for the help everyone! I think I'll leave it for now and grab it sometime in the future when it goes on sale. The idea of running a graveyard like I'd run a farm is enticing, but I've got plenty on my plate when it comes to games at the moment.
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Tylana posted:Also man. I'm not sure I ever got the people who really pushed the graveyard side of stuff. It's so little money compared to selling crops and crates. Getting the sermons powerful is nice, but also barely related. Would have hated gathering wood without zombies though. Church rating gives more faith (5 rating per). Graveyard rating gives more income. Getting the grass early and covering both sides of the graveyard in grass gives substantial early game income every week.
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Just picked this up on the Steam sale a week ago, am I still good by sticking to RazzleDazzleHour's post in the OP? Looking for some chill graveyard keeping and happy to get sucked into some marathon gaming, my one concern is sinking a shitton of time into it and then realizing I missed a whole bunch of stuff early on that won't come around again for a long time, like I did in Stardew Valley. Is that an issue at all in this game, or am I fine to just chug along?
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No seasons, no missables. Some minor gotchas that beforeiplay covers. Oh, and the telestone is a cooldown not a consumable. So.. more worth it than it seems. EDIT : The 7 days are relevant but not come around pretty quick generally.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Just picked this up on the Steam sale a week ago, am I still good by sticking to RazzleDazzleHour's post in the OP? There are no seasons. The only time related thing is the week so if you miss something you're never more than a week away from trying again. The OP guide was written before zombies were added but its fine. The game plays a lot of mean tricks on you that will lock you out of ways to make money. The thing with the donkey is only the first one. You can't technically ever get stuck since there's always some villager who will sell you what you need to get unstuck, but it's otherwise a cruelly unforgiving game and its easy to get stuck or end up buying a tech you can't use without buying three other techs. It helps a lot to delay quests that need money until you'll have a buffer of money available after buying the quest gizmo so you can ride it out if it's one of the mean quests (the mean quests are mostly from the Bishop). The big things I would suggest is 1) use your starting resources to build a furnace and nothing else until you've built the furnace. There's a lot of other stuff you'll want to build, but it's very easy to get into a position where you need to buy many silver worth of items from the blacksmith to get unstuck if you don't build the furnace first. Silver will be hard to come by for all of the early game since you'll want to throw away more bodies than you bury 2) It helps to avoid burying more than a few bodies in the early game because as you upgrade the church rating, the donkey brings you much better bodies 3) removing blood and fat each increase the white skulls in a body by 1. The game doesn't tell you this at all, but unlike some of the other body parts, the behavior of blood and fat is always the same. 4) Only sell items until the price would drop if you sold another one. The price of items recovers every day so you can afford to let the price drop a few times, but if you do it too many times you'll hurt your ability to make money because the prices will still be depressed the next time you are in town. Note that this is purely a penalty, you can't lower the cost to buy, only the cost you can sell at. 5) It's not too hard to make a self sustaining carrot farm if you grow all the veggie types. You can give the carrots to the donkey and then sell the other veggies to the farmer to cover the cost of buying new seeds to replace the ones you didn't get back during harvest. 6) Don't be mean to the merchant. He has ways to make you regret it. In fact, be nice to people in general. Surprisingly for a game where all the NPCs are dicks, being dicks to the NPCs never gets you a benefit and there are a handful of times it hurts you. The other mean thing is that when you get to quality items, it has to be the right quality. If someone asks for a copper star item, they won't take a silver or gold, it must be copper. Same deal with the other quality levels. Recipes work the same way.
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Do remember that cremation exists nowadays as well. I believe it unlocks after tossing the first body into the river. Once you have cremation, you can simply burn bodies to still get credit for burying them. It's rough on your wood stocks, but once you get that automated, then it's an easy way to make a decent amount of cash and get some extra materials as well. You can even harvest all of the blood/fat/skin/etc. before burning the body.
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Has anyone had a bug where the refugee camp NPC never spawns? And you never get the refugee camp as a result? Everything I’ve read makes it sound like that should’ve happened early in my game, but I’ve opened my tavern and have a horde of zombies doing my bidding and stuff and still no camp  I’m on the Switch if it matters.
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PraxxisParadoX posted:Has anyone had a bug where the refugee camp NPC never spawns? And you never get the refugee camp as a result? Everything I’ve read makes it sound like that should’ve happened early in my game, but I’ve opened my tavern and have a horde of zombies doing my bidding and stuff and still no camp I vaguely recall something like this happening. I don't remember how I resolved it, or if it was even the same issue, tbh, but I think I ultimately just needed to do something to trigger it?
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Megazver posted:I vaguely recall something like this happening. I don't remember how I resolved it, or if it was even the same issue, tbh, but I think I ultimately just needed to do something to trigger it? That's my hope. Weirdly this morning Gerry relocated back to my morgue (from his tent under the tavern) after I became an aristocrat, so maybe I just need to sleep now.
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Try to talk to everyone, including Gerry. The camp itself is supposed to be in the northmost part of the map, just straight up the road.
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The only requirement to unlock the camp is to have the church open. The main refugee guy shows up at your place after that. If you haven't slept a lot, especially if you're using a cheat for infinite energy so you stay awake longer, just sleep a bunch to clear out the queue of events that spawn when you wake up. Make sure to exit your home after each sleep as well, as some events occur right from your bedside, and others when you step outside.
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