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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah I think her time between Batgirl and Oracle is pretty evenly split. But her and Dick going out on team ups has been fun. Honestly the only time Babs as Batgirl was really intrusive was in, oddly, Batgirls where it should have been much more about Cass and Steph in the early going but I think there was something that mandated Babs be Batgirl at the time, plus coming out of Future State or whatever it was.
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Apr 14, 2024 22:11
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bunnyofdoom posted:Throuple of Ted Kord, Barbara Gorden and Booster Gold Ted has two hands; Greg Rucka could write this perfectly imo. Hell, might get me to pick up a mainstream book again. Somewhere along the way I thought Dick and Barbara dated young, broke up/drifted apart when Dick went to the Teen Titans, then Dick dated Kory for a while until (insert whatever reason someone is dead this week) and now Dick and Barbara are dating again just in their 30s like when you come back to a high school partner? But I’m probably mashing together multiple book and TV timelines. Like are all the bat kids still kids after 20 years? There was a graphic novel I had where it was the Bat Fam with Nightwing running stuff because Bruce was Why can’t these whining manchildren get mad about stuff like “we never got Ralph and Sue Dibny ghost detectives?”
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Apr 14, 2024 23:34
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site posted:Only one solution: throuple I accidentally came to this conclusion myself. We have a solution, people! One's on the East Coast, one's on the West, you don't even have to worry about them stepping on each other's toes (unless you want them to, I guess).
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Apr 15, 2024 00:02
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A supervillain who's plan is to get women to date Nightwing until his schedule is too full to fight crime.
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Apr 15, 2024 01:05
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How to beat Nightwing Introduce him to women. Set him up with multiple women. Make each one believe he has a date with them. Make it so the date is at the same place at the same time. Allow them to discover he has a date with each while waiting for him. Arrange for him to show up at the location soon after. ....................... Profit!
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Apr 15, 2024 01:48
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I’m fine as long as Batman isn’t involved in any way.
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Apr 15, 2024 01:55
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The Last Call posted:How to beat Nightwing This is Dick Grayson, somehow he'll manage to not only talk his way out of it, but they'll all be perfectly satisfied and supportive of him.
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Apr 15, 2024 02:15
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Kurui Reiten posted:This is Dick Grayson, somehow he'll manage to not only talk his way out of it, but they'll all be perfectly satisfied and supportive of him. Nightwing"s super power is Dat rear end
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Apr 15, 2024 04:07
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Why can’t these whining manchildren get mad about stuff like “we never got Ralph and Sue Dibny ghost detectives?” It's unfortunate, but appropriate for this thread, that the super fun Elongated Man mini from the early 90's is written by Gerard Jones.
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Apr 15, 2024 04:48
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Starting to watch Jimmy Palmioti retweet a bunch of alt right and comicsgate creator projects and I'm not sure if it's ignorance on the subject or a changing of ideals. I'm really too exhausted at this point to figure out which. He's always seemed center lib which seems like a ripe place for cg'ers to pull from.
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Apr 15, 2024 06:03
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Palmioti wouldn’t surprise me although I’m basing this on a decade-plus old “I just have this feeling” impressions after reading Queen Crab
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Apr 15, 2024 16:58
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I found my copy of Comics Journal 304, which I bought because it has a long interview with Simon Hanselmann in it, and woof, he is a fascinating dude, and also a oval office (in his own words, and accurately). Absolutely lovely upbringing that a lot of the events of Megg Mogg and Owl are drawn directly from, genderfluid, weird mix of bootstraps mentality and leftwing political leaning, has a hatred of soft-queer tumblr culture and neo-pronouns, thinks the metoo movement went too far but has never been accused of anything even obliquely and is all accounts not a creepy gently caress. I wish I could repost the whole thing but it's a good chunk of the issue.
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Apr 15, 2024 22:07
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I always figured the creator of Megg Mog and Owl had some, let's go with "interesting," upbringing.
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Apr 15, 2024 22:15
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Air Skwirl posted:I always figured the creator of Megg Mog and Owl had some, let's go with "interesting," upbringing. in the interview he casually mentions several instances of being abused as a child ("not too seriously though"), and also smoking weed at 8 years old.
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Apr 15, 2024 22:17
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Werewolf Jones is not the product of a sound mind
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Apr 15, 2024 23:07
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Hanselman has basically stated that any comic featuring Megg's mum is autobiographical which if you've read them is woooof.
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Apr 16, 2024 08:12
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The other stuff is very typical Australian "popular left" which is mildly centre-right. Mildly progressive socially, "except for the real weirdos" (this was lgb people a decade and a half ago) and economically gently caress you got mine
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Apr 16, 2024 09:51
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I, Butthole posted:The other stuff is very typical Australian "popular left" which is mildly centre-right. Mildly progressive socially, "except for the real weirdos" (this was lgb people a decade and a half ago) and economically gently caress you got mine The thing is, Hanselmann IS one of the real weirdos and specifically quotes the existence of the dole as being the reason he could focus on comics. In the interview you can really see him ping-ponging back and forth between progressive views and the ingrained centre-right attitudes you describe. Real fascinating stuff.
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Apr 16, 2024 10:10
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The thing is, Hanselmann IS one of the real weirdos and specifically quotes the existence of the dole as being the reason he could focus on comics. In the interview you can really see him ping-ponging back and forth between progressive views and the ingrained centre-right attitudes you describe. Real fascinating stuff. Absolutely, and that "well it doesn't include me" attitude is also very Aus-centric, politically. Maybe some hangover of our cultural tall-poppie syndrome or similar, I dunno  but iot's what makes Megg Mogg and Owl a really good example of Australiana. It's progressive enough that this diverse group of gently caress-ups can recognise that they're on the outskirts of society, but they also take glee in punching down at those some minorities with a very conservative bent? The WWJ Annual definitely highlights this concept a lot more than other MM&O books too, imo. There's a lot of queer self-loathing and targeting to be had with that character and it goes full tilt towards it in quite a few of the stories. MM&O is an enigma wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a pre-lubed dragoncock dildo laced with meth, is what i think i'm trying to say. a land of contrasts
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Apr 16, 2024 10:58
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Most people irl are a weird mix of ideologies, often ones seemingly in contrast to one another. Thats life
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I was a huge fan of Hanselmann up until Crisis Zone, at which point I fell off hard and kind of regretted how much I enjoyed the earlier work. Not only did the quality and coherence of the work take a dive, but it also read like Hanselmann had veered hard into "gently caress You, Got Mine" territory after the success of the last couple of books.
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Apr 16, 2024 16:38
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RevKrule posted:Starting to watch Jimmy Palmioti retweet a bunch of alt right and comicsgate creator projects and I'm not sure if it's ignorance on the subject or a changing of ideals. I'm really too exhausted at this point to figure out which. He's always seemed center lib which seems like a ripe place for cg'ers to pull from. Is there any more news on this? Considering he tends to collab on several books with people, usually his wife Amanda Connor this could go quite bad. They tend to get successful work, and they have not been blacklisted up until this point so it's not like they need to deal with these people or support them.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:38
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The Last Call posted:Is there any more news on this? It's been a slow burn. I mostly started noticing it in the past couple months when i saw him retweeting stuff about the Soska Sisters new project with the Rippaverse. He then started appearing on Eric July's youtube channel and promoting that. And recently I saw him retweeting a project from a Melanie Mac fanboy and that kinda became the final straw for me. He's a big "creator owned, back kickstarter projects" kinda guy but it felt like it's going in a direction that's gonna be bad. It's one of those things where I felt like i was seeing the flags starting to pop up and having to say to myself "am I actually the crazy one?" I don't think he's alt-right per se but it feels like one of those "we need to find a middle ground with people who are actively antagonizing vulnerable groups' succlib centrist bullshit you hear.
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Apr 16, 2024 22:03
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Claytor posted:I was a huge fan of Hanselmann up until Crisis Zone, at which point I fell off hard and kind of regretted how much I enjoyed the earlier work. Not only did the quality and coherence of the work take a dive, but it also read like Hanselmann had veered hard into "gently caress You, Got Mine" territory after the success of the last couple of books. Yeah, plus Crisis Zone is pretty much a webcomic done over COVID, whereas the others are either deliberate long-form works or collections of zines. So there's less room for the kind of sudden punch of tragedy that the other books have.
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Apr 16, 2024 22:16
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RevKrule posted:It's been a slow burn. I mostly started noticing it in the past couple months when i saw him retweeting stuff about the Soska Sisters new project with the Rippaverse. He then started appearing on Eric July's youtube channel and promoting that. And recently I saw him retweeting a project from a Melanie Mac fanboy and that kinda became the final straw for me. I know he's very good friends with Quesada so it'd surprise me if he went chuddy. Likely he's just older and doesn't follow the minutia imo. Being married to one of the biggest female artists doesn't seem to mesh with CG either. It's this century though so they're probably terrible and awful. I hope not though.
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Apr 17, 2024 00:13
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That's how I see it, it's an education thing. But at the same time, I feel like educating people these days just drives them further right. That's where my biggest frustration right now comes from.
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Apr 17, 2024 01:05
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RevKrule posted:That's how I see it, it's an education thing. But at the same time, I feel like educating people these days just drives them further right. That's where my biggest frustration right now comes from. To be right wing requires being at least one of evil, ignorant and stupid. The evil ones you don't bother trying to educate. And there's nothing a stupid, ignorant person hates more than admitting they are wrong, so they inevitably double down.
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Apr 17, 2024 08:54
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Studies have proven that to be true. You can try to educate them and show them actual evidence and they'll only get worse from it. It kinda explains a lot for the current state of the world.
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Apr 17, 2024 18:27
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The Last Call posted:Studies have proven that to be true. That is very interesting! Has anyone found a method that works, then? Or does it take like, an actual full-on cult deprogramming treatment?
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Apr 17, 2024 19:24
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isasphere posted:That is very interesting! Has anyone found a method that works, then? Or does it take like, an actual full-on cult deprogramming treatment? Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be much you can do. There are tons of stories out there of family trying to help one member who went down the rabbit hole. But what can you do? As soon as you lay off them they're watching and listening to the same old things and any positive change goes out the window. And that's if they even listen to you. Most won't. The most you can really do is call out their BS when they say it and give some tough love and hope somehow it gets through.
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Apr 17, 2024 20:37
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You are effectively indoctrinating them into an entirely different way of thinking. So it's going to take as much effort as raising a child. No single event is going to change anything.
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Apr 17, 2024 20:43
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There are methods of persuasion that can be effective but a lot depends on the particular situation and their prior view of you as an information source. I’ve got some old posts digging into the persuasion literature, I can dig em up next week.
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Apr 18, 2024 00:32
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Seems like every successful story I've heard has required either them coming into personal, face to face contact with something that contradicts what they are being fed, or being threatened with losing loved ones. Or using parental controls to block access to Fox news, ironically enough. Of course, none of these are full proof.
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Listened to the QAnon episode of Maintenance Phase today (it’s a health myths podcast, there’s a pipeline from wellness industry to QAnon) and their guest said you basically keep an open line of communication where you do NOT discuss their beliefs and even then the people he spoke to about getting out of it were inspired by the smallest loose threads they chose to pull. If you chose to remain in contact it’s more about being someone they can come to and confide their regrets/shame in and maybe ask for help.
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Apr 19, 2024 00:10
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I’ve been meaning to slog through that (not a podcast fan); the interplay between pseudoscience and other harms is like my whole thing.
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https://www.38north.org/2024/04/what-we-learned-inside-a-north-korean-internet-server-how-well-do-you-know-your-partners/quote:However, in 2016, the studio was sanctioned by the US Department of Treasury as a North Korean state-owned enterprise. The US government has twice laid additional sanctions on Chinese companies that have worked with the studio or acted as a go-between, once in 2021 and again in 2022. quote:There is no evidence to suggest that the companies identified in the images had any knowledge that a part of their project had been subcontracted to North Korean animators. In fact, as the editing comments on all the files, including those related to US-based animations, were written in Chinese, it is likely that the contracting arrangement was several steps downstream from the major producers. tldr, stuff contracted to chinese studios is getting passed further on to NK studios, violating lots of things
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