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| Patriots & Rams |
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23 | 10.36% |
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61 | 27.48% |
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36 | 16.22% |
| Rams & Chiefs |
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102 | 45.95% |
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a neat cape posted:If the Chiefs defense is so pathetic they couldnt force a field goal, they deserve to lose i'm a pats fan but it's kinda dumb knowing (barring some miracle) my team is gonna win once they get the toss. doesn't seem fair for your offense to never get a shot if your defense has nothing left in the tank.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:02
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Why would Riveron be held accountable for this? It’s not like he could throw a flag from New York. 
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Jan 21, 2019 17:02
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brugroffil posted:still in awe of that blown DPI https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1087369666593546243
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Jan 21, 2019 17:02
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The chiefs also had 1st down on like the 25 with 20+ seconds less and threw a bad pass out of the endzone before going for the FG. Should've taken another shot into the endzone.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:04
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Kalli posted:The chiefs also had 1st down on like the 25 with 20+ seconds less and threw a bad pass out of the endzone before going for the FG. After the first shot, they had 11 seconds left, which is technically enough, but still pretty risky if something stupid should happen.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:05
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Groovelord Neato posted:i'm a pats fan but it's kinda dumb knowing (barring some miracle) my team is gonna win once they get the toss. doesn't seem fair for your offense to never get a shot if your defense has nothing left in the tank. Defense is half of the game. Go out there and stop the other team from getting into the endzone, get the ball back for your offense, and score.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:05
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right. it's half the game. the other half is offense.Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:After the first shot, they had 11 seconds left, which is technically enough, but still pretty risky if something stupid should happen. probably worried about a deep sack.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:06
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a neat cape posted:Defense is half of the game. Go out there and stop the other team from getting into the endzone, get the ball back for your offense, and score. Yeah, also the reason they were so gassed is because the Patriots had at that point run like 85 offensive plays. Almost as if it was part of the gameplan to gas them.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:09
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Kalli posted:Yeah, also the reason they were so gassed is because the Patriots had at that point run like 85 offensive plays. Final offensive snap tally was like 94-47 lol
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Jan 21, 2019 17:10
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Kalli posted:Yeah, also the reason they were so gassed is because the Patriots had at that point run like 85 offensive plays. It does seem like the Achilles heel of high scoring modern NFL offenses is their inability to stay on the field.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:12
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:It does seem like the Achilles heel of high scoring modern NFL offenses is their inability to stay on the field. The achilles heel of the Chiefs is that their defense this year was awful, full stop.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:13
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Groovelord Neato posted:yeah the ot rules are garbage. i don't think anyone doubted the outcome of the super bowl or last night's game once they went to overtime. Yeah, the issue stems from the fact that one team doesn't even get a chance to possess the ball, which is unique to the NFL among all major sports. In every other sport, professional or college, both teams have at least one shot.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:14
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It should be noted that if the Chiefs’ defense did get a stop, it’s not an instant victory. The Chiefs needed a victory from their defense and a victory from their offense. The Patriots only needed a victory from their offense.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:14
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Grittybeard posted:The achilles heel of the Chiefs is that their defense this year was awful, full stop. Sure, but the offense didn't help this game. The first half they couldn't stay on the field. The second half they scored too quickly.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:16
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fsif posted:It should be noted that if the Chiefs’ defense did get a stop, it’s not an instant victory. This is exactly where the controversy stems from. They thankfully did nuke the "win the toss, get to FG range and win" strategy for both the playoffs and regular seasons, but now it's becoming apparent, at least for the playoffs, that winning the toss is everything.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:17
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:It does seem like the Achilles heel of high scoring modern NFL offenses is their inability to stay on the field. That's how the Pats beat the Colts for years.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:18
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iospace posted:This is exactly where the controversy stems from. They thankfully did nuke the "win the toss, get to FG range and win" strategy for both the playoffs and regular seasons, but now it's becoming apparent, at least for the playoffs, that winning the toss is everything. It's just a side effect of the offensive explosion, where there are only a few teams that have legit defenses now, and the expectation is that more often than not a team will score points on any given drive. The OT rules do not take this into account.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:19
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:It's just a side effect of the offensive explosion, where there are only a few teams that have legit defenses now, and the expectation is that more often than not a team will score points on any given drive. The OT rules do not take this into account. That's a fair point, but I wouldn't be surprised if they change the OT rules again after this year, at least for the playoffs. Though I'm remembering the time Favre chucked it 80 yards against the Broncos to win on the first play of OT 
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Jan 21, 2019 17:20
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:It's just a side effect of the offensive explosion, where there are only a few teams that have legit defenses now, and the expectation is that more often than not a team will score points on any given drive. The OT rules do not take this into account. Yeah and the asymmetry is exacerbated in the postseason, where every top 5 offense is all but guaranteed a playoff berth. Only two of the top 5 defenses made the postseason.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:28
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Also if the Chiefs won the toss and scored a touchdown, there is a 0% chance I’m posting anything other than “LOL GET GOOD THEN” today.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:30
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fsif posted:Also if the Chiefs won the toss and scored a touchdown, there is a 0% chance I’m posting anything other than “LOL GET GOOD THEN” today. Same but in reverse
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Jan 21, 2019 17:32
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Phobeste posted:I don't know who this is responding to but if it's to me then I have to reiterate that teams that get "robbed" by a bad call maybe didn't deserve the win they were "robbed" of if a single bad call or coin flip could "rob" them of it Thanks, Pharisee, for the rules lawyering
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Jan 21, 2019 17:41
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Ball control is the most important thing in the modern NFL, even more important than actually scoring the ball.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:45
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Thanks, Pharisee, for the rules lawyering
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Jan 21, 2019 17:46
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FizFashizzle posted:That's how the Pats beat the Colts for years. Somewhat. It also helped that the Colts defense generally sucked and they liked to employ midget linebackers and DBs.
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Jan 21, 2019 17:47
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Kalli posted:The chiefs also had 1st down on like the 25 with 20+ seconds less and threw a bad pass out of the endzone before going for the FG. They showed that the Patriots were dropping like seven guys into the end zone because the Chiefs couldn't complete anything inbounds. Considering their distance from the end zone, I think it would have been very difficult for the Chiefs to score, and any sack/stop in bounds ends the game.
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Jan 21, 2019 18:40
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iospace posted:This is exactly where the controversy stems from. They thankfully did nuke the "win the toss, get to FG range and win" strategy for both the playoffs and regular seasons, but now it's becoming apparent, at least for the playoffs, that winning the toss is everything. "we want the ball, and we're gonna score"
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Jan 21, 2019 18:55
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Finger Prince posted:"we want the ball, and we're gonna score" That was great
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Jan 22, 2019 04:06
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