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grand jury calvinball is part of why 90% of prosecutions never see trial and defendants just go "gently caress it  " and plead out
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Main Paineframe posted:assange is a poo poo person and has taken wikileaks in an obviously partisan direction... for that matter, and crucially in Manning's case, wikileaks was (as far as outsiders could tell) responsibly curated re: the content of their leaks until well their handling of the Manning leaks and yeah, it wasn't yet clear A) how garbage Assange is and B) that he'd purged / was in the process of purging Wikileaks i maintain that chelsea should have received a slap on the wrist, and holy poo poo was her time served by the time of sentencing, never mind commutation, more than that slap on the wrist
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Calibanibal posted:For what its worth I'm glad that julian Assange has been arrested for textbook contempt not yet he ain't, afaik sadly
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yay lets cheer for someone getting tortured in solitary for life without edible food in a private prison at the insistence of NatSec ghouls who are still bitter about being exposed for war crimes Centrism 2020!
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Slutitution posted:They are doing this to someone that was pardoned by a goddamn President and they openly don't give a gently caress about it. She wasn't pardoned lol, Obama loving commuted her sentence. Basically saying "well, she deserved some of it".
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i gave up all hope for this country when i realized that the popular reaction to whistleblowers revealing horrific crimes the government committed was to blame the whistleblowers.
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you'll also be pleased to know that whistleblowing in any given industry gets you blacklisted
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https://twitter.com/xychelsea/status/1113887170652192769
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i gave up all hope for this country when i realized that the popular reaction to whistleblowers revealing horrific crimes the government committed was to blame the whistleblowers. Our dumb authoritarian nation that thinks police, FBI, ICE,CIA and the military are the good guys.
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good news everyone! we put a translady in genpop!
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Willie Tomg posted:good news everyone! we put a translady in genpop! adseg bad tho hopefully this is a step up
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She's going to shiv some bitches. You know why? Because when you're in general pop you can't take poo poo from nobody. Chealsea will shiv someone, then everyone will start calling her Crazy Horse 18.
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28 days in solitary for defying a grand jury
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gently caress America tbh
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she's going to be in prison until the grand jury expires and then if they convene a new one, theyll put her back in prison for that
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GreyjoyBastard posted:and yeah, it wasn't yet clear A) how garbage Assange is and B) that he'd purged / was in the process of purging Wikileaks wait what do you mean by purge?
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GreyjoyBastard posted:adseg bad tho *throws away the key* ain't nothin nobody coulda done.
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literally denied PC because it would defeat the purpose of an indefinite sentence to compel through torture
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Dr. Killjoy posted:wait what do you mean by purge? Insane libs think Assange has been a russian asset all along. Idk why doing what you can to avoid ending up in the hands of us natsec masked you bad but Greenwald and Snowden alsogot the raw lib deal.
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The Saucer Hovers posted:i wonder what they will do with julian hasn't he been in that embassy longer by now than he would've been imprisoned in sweden for whatever charge he's avoiding
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:hasn't he been in that embassy longer by now than he would've been imprisoned in sweden for whatever charge he's avoiding the charge was not limited to what was spelled out in the order trying to make him appear for interview, but, yeah, he has probably spent 10x what he would have realistically gotten cooperating sweden had a pretty reasonably low bar for sexual crimes, but the punishments are also rather too low for the less heavy stuff
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the charge was not limited to what was spelled out in the order trying to make him appear for interview, but, yeah, he has probably spent 10x what he would have realistically gotten cooperating i think the fear has always been that he'd be immediately extradited to the US so he could go to one of the hell jails here
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Condiv posted:i think the fear has always been that he'd be immediately extradited to the US so he could go to one of the hell jails here that's a pretty realistic concern. sure, assange is a piece of poo poo, but that doesn't mean he deserves to be disappeared into an american hell prison.
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Condiv posted:i think the fear has always been that he'd be immediately extradited to the US so he could go to one of the hell jails here while sweden has been jackasses on that front before there was *way* less risk of that in sweden than in the uk. modern sweden has a been a good-when-it-"matters"-but-cynical (e.g. heavily bankroll the end of apartheid but extrajudicially send a ton of egyptian rebels to their death because their struggle wasn't working out anyway) minor geopolitical force, where the uk is just in bed with the forces that be. though, granted, trying to have a some consistent philosophy from that basis.
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This very grand jury seems to be trying to get an indictment on him before the statute of limitations expires. Kinda seems like the feds have hope they can get him, in spite of all the reasons he supposedly couldn't be extradited.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:that's a pretty realistic concern. sure, assange is a piece of poo poo, but that doesn't mean he deserves to be disappeared into an american hell prison. i thought sweden didn't extradite to freedomland specifically because of our hellprisons
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i thought sweden didn't extradite to freedomland specifically because of our hellprisons in principle true, and realistically a lot more true than for the uk, but sweden has a history of expedient shortcuts when it gets to that stuff. same tendency that brought it through ww2 not only unharmed, but rich.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i thought sweden didn't extradite to freedomland specifically because of our hellprisons This is one of those wonderful lib lies people propagate to try and blame whistleblowers for running from the US.
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Cool cool. Normal world.
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