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Klyith posted:They just added that pretty recently, you aren't crazy. When they added ctrl-to-swap for things like walls a while back it didn't work on splitters. Thanks for pointing out that little beep, I never consciously noticed it when spinning elevator heads around. I think it was something about the order of construction? I'm superstitious now and always replace elevators if I had to replace a splitter/merger it was connected to. I've started making blueprints out of blueprints when I can. A pair of whatever, blueprint, test outside, then assemble the actual blueprint from that. From that I found out blueprint build mode is actually useful. After I started putting the ceiling/next floor into blueprints, they just snap to each other instead of pixel hunting and nudging. Blueprint deletion mode is a godsend, I don't know how anyone managed before that was added. Kinda getting towards that efficient building I wanted.
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Fun little tease at the end of something that IS coming in 1.0: belt input for biomass burners.
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oh my god thank gently caress they're removing flowers, feels like every time i do a new playthrough i end up with multiple industrial storage containers of just petals
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Yeah I get tired of trashing flowers when I'm trying to chainsaw some poo poo down to clear up space. It's a good change.
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The biomass burner change seems like a step in the right direction. Makes the grindy stage of the game less grindy. Presumably the ones attached to the hub don't have this, so you still get a little taste of manual feeding before the game gives you automation.boxen posted:Is there any word about controller support? I believe this is the latest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRt32esDsG8 Post 1.0 if ever seems most likely.
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Dr. Stab posted:The biomass burner change seems like a step in the right direction. Makes the grindy stage of the game less grindy. Presumably the ones attached to the hub don't have this, so you still get a little taste of manual feeding before the game gives you automation. Might also be a hint at farming being added to 1.0. People have been asking for it as long as I've been playing but even if you could automate biomass gathering you still would have had to manually feed all the burners. With an input port you could have fully automated energy production before reaching coal.
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OgNar posted:https://twitter.com/SatisfactoryAF/status/1771206918121345370 Is there a list of what isn’t making it somewhere
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There's this: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/search?date=All%20Time&status=rejected
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Off the top of my head: Big Crab enemy from an early trailer Flowers are getting cut (alongside previously mentioned beacons) Circle Foundations are not going to be a thing Official Mod Support (What people manage right now is pretty considerable, so it's not something they feel the need to focus on) Roads (they concepted a system similar to rails early on but didnt work very well) Logic Systems All mentioned with the caveat of "could be added after 1.0" but it pretty much all boils down to "these are things we don't want to prioritize right now"
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Giant Enemy Crab is no surprise. In addition to all the stuff Snutt said, there's just no place to put it now that makes sense from a gameplay standpoint. A boss monster like that would need to sit in the one super-awesome zone in the game with all the best end-game resources. The way that world design has evolved, there isn't a place like that and it would just be a big annoyance. Flowers and color cartridges getting axed is a good change, one less inventory item to worry about. boxen posted:Is there any word about controller support? Dr. Stab posted:Post 1.0 if ever seems most likely. I would bet heavily against it. The amount of UI work needed to do controllers as a supported feature for a game with this much complexity is ... daunting. The only way it happens is if they actually do console ports. They might slip the unsupported "controllers work with default Unreal bindings" thing back in again.
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I've just unlocked the jetpack for the fourth time; the way you get to play after not having it has to be one of my favorite parts of this game. Ever since power towers the jump in mobility isn't quite as severe but it still feels good man.
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Switch gameplay video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zp4FebreOs I've really been itching to get back into Satisfactory but am torn into waiting until release or going in now and building stuff that i'm just going to delete in what is hopefully a few months or less. e: Hirdy birdy shirdy
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Have they said anything about the story? (lol) Are the weird artifacts ever going to have a purpose? How would they even slot into the game at this point? Also give me coal tier trains.
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Demiurge4 posted:Have they said anything about the story? (lol) nope, other than it's all coming in 1.0 which will be out sometime this year my general assumption has been that the story rewards will be some new buildings that you can make using the artifacts that are convenient but limited. a teleporter for people or items, a no-input power generator, a nuke waste disposer, that sort of thing. Demiurge4 posted:Also give me coal tier trains. what are you doing that needs complex logistics in the coal tier? you are dealing with 3 resources, all of which are abundant. stop building coal poo poo and tech up.
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It would be nice to be able to train in far away coal tbh, it's often in a pretty inconvenient spot
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I feel like coal is slightly inconveniently located, such that scaling up power or steel tends to lead me to just build big long belts, or resort to building all my power plants up on crater lake. Like the southern grasslands start doesn't have a lot of coal and water near each other for easily scaling up of power. Northern Forest and Western Desert, I both just end up using crater lake for power, then the coal by the sea for steel, and I haven't done a eastern desert start yet so I don't know how that'd go. That said, I still don't really like the idea of using trains for coal-power. I'm too nervous about something getting out of balance and then losing power and having a huge headache trying to get stuff started again, even though the math should roughly work out the same as by belt.
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Oxyclean posted:I feel like coal is slightly inconveniently located, such that scaling up power or steel tends to lead me to just build big long belts, or resort to building all my power plants up on crater lake. I think that's intentional to try and get you to expand from your starter base and either set up another outpost or do a bunch of belting and poo poo back to your starter to get it all going. Once you get trains you're at the point where moving that much poo poo around is actually a good idea
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if you've been messing around with the building mechanics instead of critical pathing your way up the tech tree you probably have a ton of biomass burners you immediately want to replace with automated coal power, which can take getting coal from several sources to fully replace on top of like, all of the non-power stuff you may want to use coal for. building belts and then upgrading them as you get higher tier miners and more power cores to shove inside the miners is a really long and tedious process if you've stretched those belts long distance because you didn't have trains. i think the game intends for you to use cars instead at this stage but i can't say i enjoy that solution, would much rather be able to set up a train track i can largely forget about instead of using the much more frustrating car autopilot system to accomplish exactly the same thing
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Klyith posted:what are you doing that needs complex logistics in the coal tier? you are dealing with 3 resources, all of which are abundant. stop building coal poo poo and tech up. Counterpoint: chugga chugga chugga
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Yeah, I absolutely refuse to use trucks for ferrying anything grid-critical. But in general I just find trucks too much of a hassle because the fuel requirement introduces a secondary headache of "what i need is not where I need it" and plopping down big long belt highways is easier and more reliable.
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Also, bring your power plants to the coal, not coal to your power plants. It's dead easy to build long power lines, much easier than long belt or truck or train lines.
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TK-42-1 posted:I think that's intentional to try and get you to expand from your starter base and either set up another outpost or do a bunch of belting and poo poo back to your starter to get it all going. Once you get trains you're at the point where moving that much poo poo around is actually a good idea So the intention of the grasslands being the easy start dates back to a time when fluids didn't exist and coal power didn't need water. If you didn't need to worry about water, grasslands would absolutely be the "easy" start in that you'd have everything you need for tier 0-4, none of the advanced resources like quartz or caterium to add extra complication, and a fairly relaxed time learning the game. You really have to understand that the starts are defining "easy" and "advanced" in terms of cognitive load, not how easy it is to get resources or blitz higher tech levels. As it is now you get to coal and then get kinda choked because you have about 1GW power max without expanding. If I were on the game's dev team I absolutely would have re-modeled that south tip of land to have a bit more extractable water. Oxyclean posted:Yeah, I absolutely refuse to use trucks for ferrying anything grid-critical. But in general I just find trucks too much of a hassle because the fuel requirement introduces a secondary headache of "what i need is not where I need it" and plopping down big long belt highways is easier and more reliable. Pretty much every place you get coal in the game also has water available, so yes using trucks to transport coal for power is silly when you could just build power lines. The only exceptions are the grasslands (see above), the dune desert (intentional), and the red forest (not a place anyone will build coal power). Moving coal by tractor is very easy, the fuel is also the cargo. And like, if you're building a foundation skyway to bring belts back to your base, then just build the skyway and drive the tractor on that.
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Klyith posted:what are you doing that needs complex logistics in the coal tier? you are dealing with 3 resources, all of which are abundant. stop building coal poo poo and tech up.
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Oxyclean posted:Yeah, I absolutely refuse to use trucks for ferrying anything grid-critical. But in general I just find trucks too much of a hassle because the fuel requirement introduces a secondary headache of "what i need is not where I need it" and plopping down big long belt highways is easier and more reliable. This is an argument in favor of using trucks specifically to transport fuel items such as coal.
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Demiurge4 posted:I want to build and plan around trains from much earlier instead of relying on long belts across the map and THEN getting to do trains when I'm more than halfway through the tech tree. Well, number one, halfway through the tech tree in number of unlocks is not halfway through the game. Things are... strongly non-linear at the later stages of the game. Believe me, you will have plenty of time to play with trains even if you don't plan on doing the final elevator challenge. Number two, don't build long belts halfway across the map before you have trains! You don't need stuff from halfway across the map until you are in phase 3, which is where you get trains! The only complication is that you need computers to unlock trains, and computers are a logistics heavy item. But there is a smarter way to handle this. To build trains, you need to unlock Oil Processing, Industrial Manufacturing, and Monorail Train Technology. That's it. Those 3 techs are easily blitzable as soon as you're in phase 3. Minimum oil-tier stuff needed for trains: 1.5 stacks computers: one for unlocks, the rest to build some stations & a train 2 stacks plastic: one for tech unlocks, one to build a few HMF manufacturers 1 stack rubber: for unlocks the rest is coal-tier items (including the HMFs, which you can now automate with the manufacturers) There are two easy ways to assemble that list: 1. build a crappy plastic refinery on the nearest oil. fill a tractor with 23 stacks of plastic and 1 of rubber. drive back home, put together your initial electronics assembly line, feed it from a crate. unlock trains, build your first rails back to the oil, now you have a self-sustaining system. 2. spend 15 tickets for that minimum list above. now you can make trains without extracting a single drop of oil. Demiurge4 posted:I'd also like train stations to be much smaller. Once upon a time I agreed with this. Then I realized I was wrong, and the rest of what I was building needed to be much bigger.
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Oxyclean posted:Yeah, I absolutely refuse to use trucks for ferrying anything grid-critical. But in general I just find trucks too much of a hassle because the fuel requirement introduces a secondary headache of "what i need is not where I need it" and plopping down big long belt highways is easier and more reliable.
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Belts. Belts for miles and miles.
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I would just like to be able to use stackable supports as the default on-ground support when building new belts, ffs. 
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Bad Munki posted:I would just like to be able to use stackable supports as the default on-ground support when building new belts, ffs. Or at least have them snap to the small support regular belts have.
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kanonvandekempen posted:Or at least have them snap to the small support regular belts have. This would be extremely welcome.
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Dune Desert is the best starting location. The only issue is do I pave it over at the same height or make it follow some natrual undulations of the dunes ? There is plenty of biomass to get you power. Moreso when you go exploring for stuff. VERY abundant iron Craterium close (Its BS its so far up a tier) Quartz is 1km away Very good option for a massive (8/12 coal power plant before you level up miners) Further away but still near-ish coal next to iron for steel Near-ish Sulphur next to coal for big bada boom At least 2 HDDs that have 0 requirements to open. And in my dedicated server game with kids we are about to make some oil products 'around the corner'. Seriously we dont need to leave the desert proper for anything. Nearest quartz is debatable but its literally on the bordeline of woods and desert. 4 automated miners let me take back enough for a lot of unlocks
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https://twitter.com/SatisfactoryAF/status/1778042430392082502 Didn't get in. Unsurprising, they said on a dev stream about a month ago that chances of being approved were roughly 0.05% going by the number of applications they had at the time.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Didn't get in. Unsurprising, they said on a dev stream about a month ago that chances of being approved were roughly 0.05% going by the number of applications they had at the time. they saw your logistics via flying cybertruck save and were like "gently caress no, if this guy is a beta tester we'll be here for another two years"
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