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im hype for toxin crew 2.0 i expelled some toxins ln as is protocol
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Alright, sorry guys we jammed the chat thread with venom chat, I'll import it here where it belongs and also bump this glorious thread! I posted about this a bunch of times across Ant Crew and the chat thread, but recently I got a new friend into my home, his name is Hector:  Androctonus Australis, the black fangs and stinger is called the color variant "Hector" (hence why I came up with this creative name for him, also because it's a great name for a scorpion if you ask me). He's still a baby, roughly four weeks old now, and small with ~2cm in length, including the tail. The name Androctonus is Greek for "Man-killer" and Australis is Latin for "South" so it's the southern man-killer and the name really fits. He's got the more or less most potent venom in the order of Scorpions and his species causes a lot of human deaths every year, mostly in the Mexican desert and a few in northern Africa, where he originally comes from. SS already posted a bit about the venom in question, called aaHIT (Androctonus Australis Hector Insect Toxin), or AaTX1 for the general mixture of toxins they produce in the stinger: Stoner Sloth posted:thanks again friend, and please feel free to bump the thread - i'll try and get around to doing a post soon but i do know a little about Hector's venom, for starters it led to some interesting (well ymmv for most people lol) research. also amusingly the venom is referred to as Andronoctonus Australis Hector venom so it appears in toxicology writings as Aah venom! seen a fair bit of research being done into using components of their venom as a natural insecticide over the last few years Stoner Sloth posted:oh yeah, the research that Hector's venom elucidated was about how certain potassium voltage channels work in the nervous system in laymans terms, in more technical terms one component of the venom is a specific Kv4.3 blocker I'd be dying to learn more about this poison, the literature I found in our library on this particular toxin is rather scarce and the internet mostly covers the general details. There are some really cool abstracts about the venom Hector produces that I didn't get to read yet, though, so feel free to expand on this if you or anyone else got any further knowledge of how these magical deadly things work! Also, I think I qualified myself to get the toxin crew badge now. I was so jealous of it before already. 
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Jun 13, 2020 13:35
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Goons Are Great posted:
You definitely did earn it bud! Thanks for the bump and info, will post more about Hector and his friends soon, including a look at what happens in cases of human envenomation!
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Jun 13, 2020 20:19
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Goons Are Great posted:
Please don't die whilst learning more about this poison!
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Jun 14, 2020 03:53
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sup guys. toxin crew is 4 life. Thanx for the effort posts . I'll try to come up with one myself. I'm thinking one on the spider man arc with um the spider goddess bad person. she.... Used poison
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Jun 15, 2020 02:54
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take the moon posted:sup guys. toxin crew is 4 life. Thanx for the effort posts . I'll try to come up with one myself. I'm thinking one on the spider man arc with um the spider goddess bad person. she.... Used poison hell yeah toxin crew bud!  posts don't have to be all serious either and can ask honest or indeed just for fun questions and i'll try to give answers! in any case should hopefully be working on an effort post or two soon!
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Jun 15, 2020 05:43
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yea such was my thinking :) it's nice to be back in action
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Jun 15, 2020 07:08
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okay here is my effort post on a comic i read as a kid. i kind of tapped out on it having any real thesis first of all i am informed that this was written by someone called john michael straciznky. he apparently wrote for theatre & movies also and had enough self-esteem to write a book on writing scripts. well tbh this story captivated me as a kid for a bunch of reasons. i got it in one of those comic samplers which were all the rage to give to your kids as birthday presents or whatever. like enjoy a bunch of random disconnected whatever. but um its the intent that counts. so as a child i read the second issue of what is basically a self-contained story at 3 issues. the first opens with thrilling dreaming action as spider man dreams he is in a city full of people who are also spiderman. dr. strange appears, is like sup, and informs peter that hes tied into a bunch of weird astral plane mythology stuff. he tells peter to open his biology/zoology textbook to a certain page when he wakes up. peter does so and the panel reveals its a page on spider-wasps. what is a spider-wasp? a wasp that eats spiders or i think feeds them to their babies. i dont really knwo a fun way of being informative about this. basically im glad im not a spider. i think we can all grasp the concept of wasps laying babies in spiders so the babies have fresh food when they wake up. moving on. so peter is a lil shook but ultimately is like whatever. this seems like a common reaction in comic book dudes. theyre just like eh well i could get run over by a car tomorrow anyway. peter is also going thru a rough time relationship wise. this is where the setup gets a liiiiil toxic. basically the idea is that mj is like far away and w/ some other dude. and peters all like this sux. hes living all trashed out and sad and so hes not really expecting the spider-wasp totem whatever girl to attack him. turns out she is some avatar of whatever and followed him from the astral plane on some adventure. well spiderman basically kicks her butt and throws a building at her. we'll move on from here. im not especially interested in it but it was fun to read the setup cuzz.... issue 2 is like a backslide arc so basically a lil annoyed that she got her clock cleaned so she signs up to talk to the news about how spiderman is a sex pervert. this is a metaphor. like huge metaphor alert. this is supposed to be like the poison wasps use on spiders. its kind of cool cuz even though shes a freaked out monster who talks like a crazy person she can shapeshift to human form and is suddenly conversational. a nd everyones like loving spiderman of course hes a freak. anyway j jonah jameson is like man... i knew it... spider-man is evil. they dont quite go into like him being a rapist or whatever. i dont really need to deconstruct this i think. basically the idea is that a woman accuses a male celebrity of being a pos in a sexual way. this is bad. the woman is bad. dont do this women. that wasnt really what got me as a kid. like i was kind of like whoa but basically spiderman jumps into the tv studio and starts kicking her rear end. what got me is that after the metaphorical poison to the social body of spiderman she injects a real poison while hes distracted by getting really itno beating her up. what i mean is he has a lucid out of body moment and realized hes been freaking out and literally the whole battle scene is a giant web. tbh its a cool visual. so he books with poison in his system. so as a kid im like holy balls. hes poisoned. hes gonna die. the spider goddess got him good. and i didnt have the next issue. so i totally acquired it thru legal means yesterday. i mean i did buy a comic book legally in the recent past and also read a comic book and whose to say those two events werent connected. so like it turns out that ANTICLIMAX ALERT iit was a paralysis poison. later some dude who is prolly him from the future shows up and rescues him. i was a lil annoyed and then i like read a bit more and didnt really like where it was going. i wanted to type about this but im not sure there ended up being a point. in the end spiderman drops her into some yawning abyss in the ground that possibly represents a vag. part II will be a heckin research post on wasps in mythology lol to make up for how lame this was but thanx for accompanying me down weird memory lane. i think if they tried this story again it would be way different lol |
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Jun 18, 2020 02:23
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^that never happened instead i will trip report the article passion vine butterflies: a taste for poison from the December 1993 issue of national geographic it begins by describing a butterfly battle. butterflies often fight for flower nectar. also they really love nectar, to the point where a hand of god tugging on their wings won't make them let go. the scientific name for passion vine butterlies is Heliconus. for bugs they have big brains & detailed memories. their name comes from what they eat right before chrysalis. they like areas mildly disturbed by humans and the edges of forests, where there is less competition for food im assuming or maybe passion vines just grow in those areas for some reason. the article didn't expand. males have a thinner abdomen so they can mate easier. they compete through a smell like witch hazel which repels other males. its a drug that makes them less into sex. larva begin life by eating the egg they emerged from. they shed skin 4x times for 5 stages of adolescence total. finally they reach the pupal stage, followed by a 10 day metamorphosis. normally females get their bones jumped immediately. females store eggs from these matings like the rest of their life and self-fertilize. they are 1 of 2 subspecies of butterly to feed on pollen. this is in addition to their nectar diet. this combo fuels their lives as, as the article puts it, "flying cyanide capsules." they live their lives and predators in the know give them space, almost like a protective aura or blessing has been bestowed on them. their colour patterns can be pretty psychedelic & varied. the article describes how two of them gened a hybrid form that mimicked a long dead species of butterfly called the esunia. its like all this stuff is stored in genetic information & thats how ghosts work or something. sometimes passion butterflies evolve fairly accurate mimicry patterns so they dont have to wait to be eaten for predators to think they're bad to eat. photos:   
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butterflies are so cute but i hate their frekaing stings!!! |
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Sep 7, 2020 22:34
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take the moon posted:^that never happened instead i will trip report the article passion vine butterflies: a taste for poison from the December 1993 issue of national geographic thanks for this post & pics friend! hope you are well! this amazing butterfly tactic turns out to be suprisingly common in the animal world, even just with cyanide based compounds. cyanide compounds are very easy poisons to make, from a metabolic perspective it is low cost, so there are a lot of variants of it that occur in the plant world. and, for an animal that largely feeds on poisonous things, it's always been a fairly low cost/high benefit scenario for animals to make use of that. both teh 'witch hazel' chemical signalling that acts as to suppress other males and the colour patterns are pretty interesting in their own rights as evolutionary developments. it fascinating to me the interplay of the biochemical level of living things as compared to 'bonus level' concerns of in practice interaction where animals, for example, mimic toxic animals to get the benefits of scaring away predators without having to spend the effort being toxic. in conclusion butterflies are a land of contrast |
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Sep 9, 2020 17:40
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bumping thread for when life calms down at me long enough to really get back into it, one day! 
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Apr 3, 2021 08:47
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This is an interesting thread, thanks for bumping! Might have some toxic European Euronymous plant pics to throw in when I see them flowering later in the year. |
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Apr 3, 2021 10:20
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RickRogers posted:This is an interesting thread, thanks for bumping! thanks friend, and please feel free to - would love to hear more about them 
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