angryrobots posted:

Well I'm definitely not rich enough to pay the mortgage for someone else to stay in a home, unfortunately.

angryrobots posted:

I never wanted to be a landlord.

In 2012 we tried to sell my wife's old house, market was still poo poo, were unsuccessful. Rented it to someone who subletted to some of their family without our knowledge. We found this out after the rent stopped being paid, did the whole eviction thing and had to clean two truck and trailer loads of poo poo out of the property. Also had ~$5k in damages. Took the original renters to small claims court and "won" but never saw a dime (claimed loss on taxes tho iirc).

So this is now 2014 and we're planning to renovate and put it on the market again, I'm at the house working. Get a knock on the door, it's this guy and his preg wife and kid, who really really wants to rent and eventually buy the property. I take this with a grain of salt, but we're not really in a financial position to be funding a reno, so we're amicable to this.

4 years into a 2 year lease-to-own, they're still not in a position to get a mortgage loan apparently, thinks that he can pressure me into a new contract (what?). Of course now he claims the real reason is that our contact agreed upon price of $65k (expired btw but I'm still going to honor both the buy price and the monthly portion that accrued toward closing costs, even past the end of lease, if it will get the drat thing gone) is too high and he's just not going to pay that, it's not worth it.

I disagree with this and give them 3 months to get moved out. I make it very clear that if they want the refundable portion of their deposit back, don't leave any crap I have to haul off. Of course all this is too much - it takes two weeks past the move out date for him to get out, and it's still not everything. I haul off a full truck load of junk, including literally burned up car batteries (wtf) that the county recycling center gave me a lot of trouble about.

Anyhow so he was mad about not getting the deposit back. We immediately started on a full remodel, doing most of it ourselves. It was a very painful process and not cheap, but 8 months later we put the house on the market for just over $95k, and got a full price offer within a week.

gently caress renters. Humanity was a mistake, generally.

Also, I stopped by on the move out date and there was a dog. A week later I came back, no dog but a dog sized dirt mound in the back yard. I'm p sure he offed and buried the poor thing, probably because when you've procrastinated until the very last second it's difficult to find a place in your budget that allows dogs.

Main Paineframe posted:

you forced a guy to murder his kid's dog because you wanted to extract more profit from a home, and you're saying you couldn't help it because you were just too poor to do anything about it

gently caress the hell off forever

Xaris posted:

he was prolly a lovely slumlord doing zero routine work the whole time, but i wouldn't pin that on him. im guessing rented it to some lovely rear end in a top hat maga chud redneck that values no animal life given its the rural midwest/south and all and they love to shoot and kill dogs for fun there. theres no excuse to murder a dog and not just like donate it to the pound for free or throw it into the forest (which will kill it anyways, but its still a chance and at least it'll be food for another animal).

Xaris posted:

throw it into the forest

Tollymain posted:

wheres landlords.txt

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

responsible social landlords, e.g. housing associations in the uk. i work for one in scotland so i'll yell about that:

rent is used to cover upgrade programmes, grounds maintenance and ad-hoc repairs/servicing. there's gov involvement for new build developments and loans tend to get used then. annual reports to a regulator with audits everywhere, and limits on rents. for the rent itself inflation generally two options: hair above inflation, and an option of that plus 0.5% to cover targeted upgrades for vulnerable tenants. why a hair above? the loans for adding new houses. this is all committee-led, so you can skip a year, go for below inflation, etc depending on circumstances

they're created by having groups of tenants decide to work together and create a property management organisation that scales really well. i don't see it working below 50 dwellings, but it all depends on the state of the stock and if there's ownership complications for maintenance. depending on the association the committee composition varies but a large tenant presence is extremely encouraged, but it's good to have professionals as well for the financial and technical details

social housing is one of the better models given how people handle long-term maintenance of their property imo, risk is spread out and that £10k+ roof replacement isn't a sudden surprise one morning

there's major problems with a lease-to-own idea coupled with social housing though: you cut apart the tenant demographics, legislation on that (see right-to-buy) gives them discounts, odds are they'll turn into private landlords instead. even then when people end up owning the houses and seeing the costs involved for large upgrade programmes communal repairs are denied, and if you don't have majority agreement amongst the owners in a block tough luck on getting that roof replaced unless you pay their share (and still get them to agree to it)

Vomik posted:

Christ 65k house. how can you find a way to simultaneously be white trash and a land baron.

Moridin920 posted:

Yossarian-22 posted:

Hi comrades,

We have a batshit crazy landlady who got upset with me since I wouldn't have the handyman change the lightbulb, because it would have required him to shut the power off while I was teaching a class over zoom. She then pounded on our door and yelled at me for doing this. In response, I said "I don't need this" and closed the door. She gave me a 30 day eviction notice immediately thereafter and I threatened to "call my lawyer."

Since that day, she has put up printouts about domestic abuse all over her house. She also deliberately parked in my parking space after I left to go to Safeway, and did the same to my girlfriend when she left the unit in her own car. When my girlfriend got home, she recorded a conversation the landlady was having with her friend in which she bragged that she called the sheriff and had video of me attacking both her and the handyman. She even bragged that she figured out the school where I worked and would call them to say that I was a "violent person."

Anyhow, my guess is that this was something she made up over the phone because she thought my girlfriend might be listening, since she was right near our unit when she was calling her friend. Nevertheless, if she's actually crazy enough to edit a video of herself getting attacked by somebody, I wouldn't want anything to happen to me. What are my best options right now?

Yossarian-22 posted:

Hi comrades,

We have a batshit crazy landlady who got upset with me since I wouldn't have the handyman change the lightbulb, because it would have required him to shut the power off while I was teaching a class over zoom. She then pounded on our door and yelled at me for doing this. In response, I said "I don't need this" and closed the door. She gave me a 30 day eviction notice immediately thereafter and I threatened to "call my lawyer."

Since that day, she has put up printouts about domestic abuse all over her house. She also deliberately parked in my parking space after I left to go to Safeway, and did the same to my girlfriend when she left the unit in her own car. When my girlfriend got home, she recorded a conversation the landlady was having with her friend in which she bragged that she called the sheriff and had video of me attacking both her and the handyman. She even bragged that she figured out the school where I worked and would call them to say that I was a "violent person."

Anyhow, my guess is that this was something she made up over the phone because she thought my girlfriend might be listening, since she was right near our unit when she was calling her friend. Nevertheless, if she's actually crazy enough to edit a video of herself getting attacked by somebody, I wouldn't want anything to happen to me. What are my best options right now?