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Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
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Fansy fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Apr 12, 2020

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Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
Voters are more partisan and white Americans in particular are much more self conscious about their race than they were in 2012, both of which factored into how people voted in 2016. People are also increasingly likely to live in communities that vote the same way as them and much more likely to report that they would be displeased if their child married someone who voted for the other party.

Whether that means that Democratic voters are more "united" is less clear given that the Democrats are currently having pronounced internal disputes over the direction of the party. Does shared opposition to the Republican party and disdain for Republican voters count as unity or does unity imply some deeper shared sentiments and interests? Because in a lot of ways I'd argue that the Democratic party is less unified than in the past and that interest groups with wildly different visions for the future of the country are currently forced to work together through this awkwardly shared political vehicle.

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
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Helsing posted:

Voters are more partisan and white Americans in particular are much more self conscious about their race than they were in 2012, both of which factored into how people voted in 2016. People are also increasingly likely to live in communities that vote the same way as them and much more likely to report that they would be displeased if their child married someone who voted for the other party.

Whether that means that Democratic voters are more "united" is less clear given that the Democrats are currently having pronounced internal disputes over the direction of the party. Does shared opposition to the Republican party and disdain for Republican voters count as unity or does unity imply some deeper shared sentiments and interests? Because in a lot of ways I'd argue that the Democratic party is less unified than in the past and that interest groups with wildly different visions for the future of the country are currently forced to work together through this awkwardly shared political vehicle.

I suspect that negative partisanship is a much stronger force than the division between neoliberalism and social democracy. Or, at the very least, the social democracy wing of the party is less likely to defect if a centrist wins than the neoliberal wing would be should Bernie win the nomination.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Flip Yr Wig posted:

I suspect that negative partisanship is a much stronger force than the division between neoliberalism and social democracy. Or, at the very least, the social democracy wing of the party is less likely to defect if a centrist wins than the neoliberal wing would be should Bernie win the nomination.

Sure, but it still raises the question of just what we mean when ask whether Democratic voters are "united". Is it enough to say that they're staunchly opposed to the Republicans, or does "united" imply some deeper level of shared values and commitments? What are the implications of saying they are or are not united right now?

Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer
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Fansy fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Apr 12, 2020

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