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tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost
We have a Bosch -- 800 series? -- and other than the way it dries we love it also. And holy crap, is it quiet.

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casque
Mar 17, 2009

meatpimp posted:

I've heard Samsung appliances are pretty meh. That said, I bought a Samsung dishwasher today as a stop-gap unit while I get my kitchen rebuilding project going. It was only $380 and had a stainless front, so it'll work for now.

It's not nearly as quiet as the $1200 GE that flooded my kitchen, but in looking at its construction, I could cut the sound by 2 or 3 times with about $12 of sound deadening roofing material from Home Depot. Funny how they build these things.

Anyway, I'll be looking for long-term appliances soon, if Samsung sucks, what are the good brands? My insurance adjuster told me to get Bosch dishwasher, but my buddy has a Bosch dishwasher and he's had problems with that one, too... is it pretty much a crap shoot and welp?

Mieles are pretty perfect.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Just checked out Tool's tour schedule and Florida isn't on it yet :mad:

Would love to see Tool live, never have.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

Fermented Tinal posted:

:swoon:

What a beautiful wagon.

Here's the full listing with a bunch of other pics.
https://www.iowatrucksandmuscle.com/inventory/view/12232525/1988-Mercury-Grand-Marquis-4dr-Wagon-Colony-Park-GS/#c-additional-photos

$5350, pretty reasonable for a car from the midwest that looks this fresh after 30+ years with a 5.0 in it..

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Siochain posted:

Any recommendations on fridge brands oh ye knowledgeable folks? Redoing the kitchen and thinking about a new fridge. Samsung any good, or steer clear?

Samsung is well known for lack of parts availability when they break (same with LG), leaving you without a working fridge for weeks if something happens. IMO you're better off sticking with something under the GE or Whirlpool umbrella of brands - they tend to fail either in the first week or two, or after 15+ years.

meatpimp posted:

My insurance adjuster told me to get Bosch dishwasher, but my buddy has a Bosch dishwasher and he's had problems with that one, too... is it pretty much a crap shoot and welp?

My parents have had a Bosch for 15 years, and aside from multiple recalls and two small fires (related to said recalls), it's been good. :v: It's so quiet that you can't tell it's running without putting your ear up to it. Built in water heater, which is nice if it's not close to the water heater - they have to run the kitchen faucet for almost 2 minutes to get hot water, so it saves a bit of water in that regard. It does an amazing job with dishes, but does take a bit longer than your typical dishwasher. Bosch fixed the Lucas issues a long time ago (supposedly), but one of the Bosch-authorized techs that did a recall left the neutral uncapped and touching the frame. Mom got a nasty shock anytime she touched the dishwasher and the sink at the same time for over a year until she finally told me about it. :stare: (I know neutral shouldn't be carrying any current, dunno what was going on there)

That said, my new Whirlpool is almost as quiet, was much cheaper (my apt complex gets a hefty discount in exchange for not getting a warranty, I think they paid $200 for it... retail is $400), and does a great job. It just takes loving forever, and if you so much as brush the cancel button accidentally, it drains and shuts down no matter where it is in the cycle. :argh: But it's their cheapest one with electronic controls.

Parents also have a Bosch oven that's been a pile of poo poo since day one. The top oven eats heating elements for breakfast (it's down to 1 working out of... 5? and takes about an hour to heat up), and they're sick of fixing it. They're about to tear it out and put in a GE.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Aug 31, 2019

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

*knock on wood* my appliances are a complete mix and match (Whirlpool fridge, Samsung stove, GE dishwasher, LG washer/dryer, GE heat pump water heater) and all but the fridge are 5-10 years old and I've had basically no issues*. So my anecdotal advice is to just shotgun diversify your purchases and call it good

*One of the convection fan motors failed on the Samsung but was available on Prime. The LG front loader has a tiny leak from the door but not enough to warrant repair, I just keep a small absorbent pad in the spot it drips)

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

Applebees Appetizer posted:

Just checked out Tool's tour schedule and Florida isn't on it yet :mad:

Would love to see Tool live, never have.

Every Tool show I've seen was fantastic. Four or five, maybe, over as many years? From Lollapalooza in '97ish to Madison Square Garden in 2001ish. After that the tickets were just too hard to come by.

ExplodingSims
Aug 17, 2010

RAGDOLL
FLIPPIN IN A MOVIE
HOT DAMN
THINK I MADE A POOPIE


Siochain posted:

Any recommendations on fridge brands oh ye knowledgeable folks? Redoing the kitchen and thinking about a new fridge. Samsung any good, or steer clear?

Unless you get something like a Sub-Zero or one of the other high end brands, they're all pretty much going to be the same.
Samsung might be the only brand I'd say to avoid, but the rest is pretty much a matter of aesthetics.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Bosch dishwashers are the bees knees. I'll never own a different brand. I throw in poo poo I can't clean by hand without steel wool and they come out great. Things like baked on oatmeal and eggs.

Those that have trouble drying, ensure you do NOT open the door. Leave it closed, preferably overnight. They dry via the condensing method (not an element like virtually every major north american mfg) and use retained heat from the washing cycle for drying. That will get rid of 95% of any excess water after drying issues that you have.

Because of this they are far, far more energy efficient than the big name north american units and also not going to melt anything plastic that falls to the bottom or gets too close to the element.

The Korean brands (LG, Samsung) are OK, until you run into a problem. Parts availability sucks so much that one of our local repair outfits won't even offer to repair them anymore. My sister had to wait 3 months for a part for her washing machine. That was fun for a family of 6.

shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!

If anyone is in the market for shelving my favorite ones are on huge sale at Lowes from 90 down to 55. I have 5 of them and they're great and sturdy. You can make them into work benches as well and they are so easy to put together

Sale ends tomorrow and I'm going to buy 4 more if they still have any left.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/edsal-72-in-H-x-48-in-W-x-24-in-D-5-Tier-Steel-Freestanding-Shelving-Unit/1000527

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




tetrapyloctomy posted:

We have a Bosch -- 800 series? -- and other than the way it dries we love it also. And holy crap, is it quiet.

Pretty much same experience I've had. Old dishwasher had a dying motor that made it loud as gently caress so we wanted something whisper quiet. Very pleased so far.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



Never ever buy a Samsung appliance. They make good screens. That’s it. We bought a Samsung when we built our house and it died in three years. Died in the sense the ice machine froze itself solid in spite of my using a hair dryer to thaw it and chisel out the pieces multiple times. The vinyl/plastic white liner I don’t even know what to call it started splitting and it leeched some awful chemical smell that was unbearable. It permeated everything. I talked about it in the chat thread whenever it happened. It was horrible. Worst $3000 I have ever peed away.

I know a lot of people are gun shy over LG but I love ours that replaced our Samsung. I loved the one we had in our condo before we built our house. My parents worked for over a decade before selling their house and having it stay with the house. I like LG.

For dishwashers; it’s Bosch man.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


https://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/tool-not-the-band-im-just-a-tool

Somewhat Heroic posted:

Never ever buy a Samsung appliance. They make good screens. That’s it. We bought a Samsung when we built our house and it died in three years. Died in the sense the ice machine froze itself solid in spite of my using a hair dryer to thaw it and chisel out the pieces multiple times. The vinyl/plastic white liner I don’t even know what to call it started splitting and it leeched some awful chemical smell that was unbearable. It permeated everything. I talked about it in the chat thread whenever it happened. It was horrible. Worst $3000 I have ever peed away.

I know a lot of people are gun shy over LG but I love ours that replaced our Samsung. I loved the one we had in our condo before we built our house. My parents worked for over a decade before selling their house and having it stay with the house. I like LG.

For dishwashers; it’s Bosch man.

As someone 'in the know' when it comes to Samsung - this is good advice. NEVER buy anything Samsung. It's a common in-joke that their washing machines have their own inbuilt fire extinguishers (the pre-soak fountain).

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

We’ve got fisher paykel pigeon pair fridge and freezers and their dish draw. The fridge and freezer have been rock solid for 5 years now and I’ve got friends who have had the same models for 15yrs now without issue.

The dish drawer has given us a little bit of grief- one of the drawer units blew a controller and heater, but that was down to an assembly fault where a plug wasn’t installed properly and went high resistance and burnt out traces and the heater. It decided to spend a few days last week puking out soapy water from SOMEWHERE at random in the wash cycle but I pulled it apart and cleaned up all the lid seals and the unit and it seemed to calm down again?

Regardless of what brand you get, after market warranties can be worth it- we paid... $600 to get an extra 4 years warranty on the fridge, freezer, washing machine, stove and dishwasher when we got them and it’s paid for itself with the dishwasher repair- 2 callouts for the tech, the controller and the element would have been close to $1K

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Ferremit posted:

We’ve got fisher paykel pigeon pair fridge and freezers and their dish draw. The fridge and freezer have been rock solid for 5 years now and I’ve got friends who have had the same models for 15yrs now without issue.

The dish drawer has given us a little bit of grief- one of the drawer units blew a controller and heater, but that was down to an assembly fault where a plug wasn’t installed properly and went high resistance and burnt out traces and the heater. It decided to spend a few days last week puking out soapy water from SOMEWHERE at random in the wash cycle but I pulled it apart and cleaned up all the lid seals and the unit and it seemed to calm down again?

Regardless of what brand you get, after market warranties can be worth it- we paid... $600 to get an extra 4 years warranty on the fridge, freezer, washing machine, stove and dishwasher when we got them and it’s paid for itself with the dishwasher repair- 2 callouts for the tech, the controller and the element would have been close to $1K

I should elaborate. I used to be an appliance tech. F&P stuff is good but I instantly cringe at their Dish Drawers. Parts are loving expensive, and they are the appliance equivalent of Freckles the horse. Thinks of dishes and dies.

Not sure about other territories, but if you are in Australia - get a Beko Dishwasher (or a Bosch). Beko has a 5 year factory warranty.

Also if you are tossing up looking at an Electrolux or Westinghouse or Dishlex or Chef anything - the secret is they are all the same company and same poo poo. But are the equivalent of a Hyundai Excel, you will never be unable to find parts for 20 years.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

STR posted:

Bosch-authorized techs that did a recall left the neutral uncapped and touching the frame. Mom got a nasty shock anytime she touched the dishwasher and the sink at the same time for over a year until she finally told me about it. :stare: (I know neutral shouldn't be carrying any current, dunno what was going on there)

That's not really true, "neutral" (true neutrals only exist in three-phase circuits with no capacitive or inductive loading, in this case it would be, technically the grounded conductor) should have no potential (i.e. voltage) (to ground), it's a common saying (and myth) that "current follows the path of least resistance" when in reality it should be "current follows all paths, in inverse proportion to their resistance" according to Ohm's law V=I/R, therefore, your mom, presumably damp from sundry liquid from the dishwashing process, with a resistance in the mere thousands of Ohms, touching a grounding conductor of the same resistance as the dishwasher's grounded conductor ["neutral"] and grounding conductor (i.e. "ground" the connection of, in this case almost assuredly of poor quality and likely of high resistance) therefore we solve for I-sub-strmom when V=120v, I-sub-total=the current drawn by a typical household dishwasher divided by R-sub1+R-sub2+R-sub3 = resistance grounding conductor, resistance grounded conductor, resistance mom+sink etc, likely works out.to a few milliamps, which is a slightly painful yet nonlethal shock.

Anyways, the same value engineering that goes into tools goes into appliances, by the time you've owned it long enough to say "yes, this is indeed a quality appliance brand" every brand has adjusted cost of manufacture and cost of appliance so much it's impossible to say. The "American" brands are worst at this, (what Chinese supplier they're using and how much QA they're doing) while the Korean brands (LG, Smasung) tend to be feature rich and unbeatable at their price-point, but either run forever, or get burned up by some stupid quality Assurance oversight, it's basically like playing lotto.

Bosch and Kitchenaid do make some creepy quite loving dishwasher nowadays though.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Humphreys posted:

As someone 'in the know' when it comes to Samsung - this is good advice. NEVER buy anything Samsung. It's a common in-joke that their washing machines have their own inbuilt fire extinguishers (the pre-soak fountain).

I'm glad I got this as a stop gap, then! For me, anything will be better than GE. The first dishwasher we had there was GE and it caught on fire. This replacement lasted 6 years, then blew a drain tube and did about $50k of damage to my house.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


For fun I just tried my old logins for Electrolux/LG/Samsung/F&P/Whirlpool web portals. Yup, corporate insecurities with passwords stays true years later.

So anyone wanting parts manuals or technician fault finding manuals, just let me know. I don't have PMs but quote me and I'll see it.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Elviscat posted:

Bosch and Kitchenaid do make some creepy quite loving dishwasher nowadays though.

Our new Whirlpool is shockingly quiet. It's not Bosch quiet, but it's close. You can't hear it unless you're standing in front of it. And this is a fairly low end one.

Does a drat good job too, but the cycle takes over 2 hours.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


STR posted:

Our new Whirlpool is shockingly quiet. It's not Bosch quiet, but it's close. You can't hear it unless you're standing in front of it. And this is a fairly low end one.

Does a drat good job too, but the cycle takes over 2 hours.

LOL, low end = Whirlpool is Maytag and Kitchenaid, amung others.

Also fun fact: Certain age Whirlpool stuff has Samsung part numbers... :/

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Sep 1, 2019

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
My parents bought a Bosch dishwasher a couple of years ago and it's so quiet that I can't really tell if I turned it on or not. When I have to buy dishwasher etc I'll be looking at Miele as well as I'm impressed with the vacuum cleaner we bought.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


MrOnBicycle posted:

My parents bought a Bosch dishwasher a couple of years ago and it's so quiet that I can't really tell if I turned it on or not. When I have to buy dishwasher etc I'll be looking at Miele as well as I'm impressed with the vacuum cleaner we bought.

Ack! Miele! Good poo poo but back when I did service, we literally quit them. We told them to gently caress off because they wouldn't supply any sort of information/support/parts without feeling like we got raped.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

August is finally over. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3897576

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Er, who was the bearded goon going to Hong Kong?

https://imgur.com/gallery/PM5B37H

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
A: I have all my hair
B: My beard is way more glorious than that.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Glad to hear

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
Also, apparently there is a cyclone nearby.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
We have a Bosch and love it. I can't tell if it's on or off.

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug

Humphreys posted:

For fun I just tried my old logins for Electrolux/LG/Samsung/F&P/Whirlpool web portals. Yup, corporate insecurities with passwords stays true years later.

I still, 3+ years on, have access to O’Reilly online, courtesy of my old^2 job.

briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]
My truck has a small coolant leak. Earlier this werk started to overheat because it was low. I added two gallons (woops). Today it starts to overheat again and when I open the hood, I see a slow, but steady not-quite-a-stream-but-more-than-a-drip coming from the front of the engine. Buy more coolant, head home. Investigate the leak, but can't tell where it's coming from and it stops. So, I add water, let the engine idle. No leak. Rev, do everything to make it leak, and it won't leak. Driving it on a couple of small errands now and it's not overheating. What gives?

I'm thinking heat expansion opening something up or the water pump weep holes being fucky. Squeezing all hoses didn't affect the leak.

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Well coolant doesn't really evaporate, at least not quickly, so you should be able to find the origin it if it's truly leaking.

What kind of vehicle? Does it have frost plugs? How about the lines to/from the expansion tank? Water pump is an obvious suspect but not necessarily the culprit. There can be several hoses containing coolant.

No trace in the oil I hope?

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