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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Lol at anyone calling democratic centralism infantile. Just look at the dsa to prove me wrong.

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

forkboy84 posted:

Basically it's somewhere between demsoc reformism and more Orthodox Marxist revolutionary. Not quite right enough to realise real socialism isn't happening at the ballot box because of the vested interests aligned against it simply having too much power.

And then once you get there you can work on maturing past infantile concepts like democratic centralism and get on the road to anarchocommunism and council communism.

:rolleyes: can you make a single post without some non sequituur bullshit about leninism or whatever

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

like i know that's the leftcom raison d'etre but you don't see me throwing in jabs about horizontalism and the massacre of the paris commune every other sentence

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

R. Guyovich posted:

like i know that's the leftcom raison d'etre but you don't see me throwing in jabs about horizontalism and the massacre of the paris commune every other sentence

You would think the Anarchists might try to win at least one Revolution before going on about how it's obviously superior to "authoritarian" Communism

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

*tries to wage and win a war against a state that has a near-monopoly on violence, without having any form of command structure or even an agreed upon goal*

this happens:


"ah well, nevertheless. at least we aren't a bunch of tankies am i right guys???"

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
I'm an "Eco-Marxist" according to this quiz but also this quiz is dumb and bad and what's up Eco-Marxist crew :cool:

Anyway call me when we have something with psychometric validity.

Guy P. McMan
Sep 29, 2011
Oven Wrangler

turns out im a marxist... any other marx lovers here?

Kagaya Homoraisan
Aug 28, 2019

You say, run away
Instead, you get scared
For the way that I feel
Drops out into all this disorder

R. Guyovich posted:

like i know that's the leftcom raison d'etre but you don't see me throwing in jabs about horizontalism and the massacre of the paris commune every other sentence

Let's start just making Kronstadt jabs though. Really go back to those Leninist roots

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Eco Marxist, dope

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Kagaya Homoraisan posted:

Let's start just making Kronstadt jabs though. Really go back to those Leninist roots

see what i mean

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


s'up, fellow council communists. i answered 'unsure' on a few things because some stuff is just authoritarian busybodying: if people wanna get married, let them. if people wanna believe in a god and meet up regularly, let them. there are worse things existing already under capitalism.

i'm willing to carry things as far as they can as peacefully as they can, but i won't stand in anybody's way if it comes to a literal revolution -- if anything, a little reformism might make the fight easier and shorter. diversity of tactics.

but i also willing to admit my own naivety.

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk


didn't like how a lot of questions were structured "<Main Idea> is bad because of <thing X> AND <thing Y>" and almost every time i'm like "well i'd agree if it was just thing X and disagree if it was just thing Y, neutral again i guess"

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Apparently very few democratic socialists here:

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Peanut President posted:

what is a centrist-marxist, like "i love communism but i'm wishy washy on abortion"?
I think it's more like "I agree with all these principles about how society should be structured, but I'm not a big fan of violent revolution as a means to get there."

RobattoJesus
Aug 13, 2002

Centrist Marxists are just Marxists who have no ideas or opinions of their own and just want to fit in with the cool kids.

Therefore I'm changing my results to Eco Marxist.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Clowncil Scummunism

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
To see if this quiz is truly robust to the range of human beliefs I gave the most fascist answers I could think of to everything



Only 84% conservative.

Apparently Alex Jones and Sean Hannity would be considered Utopian Socialists lmao

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth
eco-marxism

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib
Eco Marxism is apparently "leftist but holy poo poo global warming"

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



Marx Headroom posted:

Eco Marxism is apparently "leftist but holy poo poo global warming"

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014



Some questions were poo poo and I kinda waffled on the centralization vs decentralization

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

the stupid kind op

uncop
Oct 23, 2010


gotta say i didn't like the dichotomy between centralization and decentalization here, like instead of asking questions about whether whether central authorities should have power to push decrees through without local authorities voting on them, it invented a dichotomy between central and local planning and so on.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The environmentalist questions are pretty lol, as are the religious/cultural ones. Is nationalist tendencies under socialism bad? Well, sure, but one question was about a world socialist republic; being patriotic to a global government that views everyone as equal wouldn't be bad in that case. Idk. These quizzes are always stupid but some of those are particularly stupid questions or ones that dont make any sense in a yes/no context

Larry Parrish has issued a correction as of 07:00 on Sep 11, 2019

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I guess my picture link doesnt work but it said I'm an orthodox Marxist which sounds about right. Probably because I said gay rights matters but the environment doesn't (because it kept couching it in very absolutist terms) and also that marriage isnt bad

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown
Environmental absolutism is morally correct tho

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
other quizzes are welcome, too

uncop
Oct 23, 2010
be careful what you wish for

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

really queer Christmas posted:



Some questions were poo poo and I kinda waffled on the centralization vs decentralization

loving anarchist :blastu:

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tristeham
Jul 31, 2022


Calibanibal posted:

cram all decentralists into a giant blender and make a meat-blood slurry

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