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Yes but WHY WOMAN ON SHOW and all that.
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Jerusalem posted:Best use of this is in The Keys of Marinus where the Doctor disapears for an episode of two, then randomly shows up in a later episode to be Ian's lawyer... despite having no legal training AND being completely unfamiliar with the laws of the planet they're on The Keys of Marinus is such a weird serial. Like it has no reason to be as good as it ends up because it's just Terry Nation fishing a bunch of unfinished ideas out of his garbage bin and sticking them together with tape, but that ridiculous trial scene is just so enjoyable, it's like this weird little bit of Kafka out of nowhere. I also enjoy the very Twilight Zone energy of all of them sitting around eating grapes while the audience is obviously extremely aware it's a trap and just waiting to see what psychic alien or hologram simulation it is this time.
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Mar 9, 2020 16:54
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Part of why the First Doctor is so enjoyable, really, is that it's like "Okay, today Doctor Who is 'Honey, I Shrunk the TARDIS Crew' today" or "gently caress it, we're doing a fetch quest connected by a couple o' short stories" or "William Hartnell is also playing a character from the French Revolution, and no, this will not be explained" because they filmed a zillion episodes every week and at some times you just had to go with "The TARDIS crew literally just landed in a fake haunted house and got scared into thinking they'd traveled into the subconscious horror mind."
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Mar 9, 2020 17:03
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Bicyclops posted:Part of why the First Doctor is so enjoyable, really, is that it's like "Okay, today Doctor Who is 'Honey, I Shrunk the TARDIS Crew' today" or "gently caress it, we're doing a fetch quest connected by a couple o' short stories" or "William Hartnell is also playing a character from the French Revolution, and no, this will not be explained" because they filmed a zillion episodes every week and at some times you just had to go with "The TARDIS crew literally just landed in a fake haunted house and got scared into thinking they'd traveled into the subconscious horror mind." And then, there's The Web Planet. 
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Mar 9, 2020 17:34
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Sydney Bottocks posted:And then, there's The Web Planet. "We accidentally permanently smeared Vaseline on this camera lens and a bunch of dancers have been working on a thing where they act out the language of bees." "Fellas, have I got the show for you!!"
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Mar 9, 2020 17:42
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marktheando posted:The BBC is doomed. And their news output is such shameless tory propaganda that I can't bring myself to care about this or do anything to stop it. Dominic Cummings would have to disagree with you here... In Doctor Who terms, Cummings is basically Davros, hiding in the shadows controlling everything. Only he’s freakier looking.
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Mar 9, 2020 18:22
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https://www.deviantart.com/bonjman/gallery/27013917/doctor-who The comic strip that sold me on a female doctor who. 
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Mar 9, 2020 18:32
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shades of eternity posted:https://www.deviantart.com/bonjman/gallery/27013917/doctor-who I hate you for linking that. Ugh.
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Mar 9, 2020 20:27
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Rhyno posted:Yes but WHY WOMAN ON SHOW and all that. But why a bland woman lead instead of a great woman lead, ie someone like Mary Tamm or Kate O'Mara. May they both rest in peace. Actually it probably comes down to poo poo writing again.
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Mar 9, 2020 21:13
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I don't think Jodie Whitaker is bland, and it seems strange that the only names to go for in terms of non-bland actors are people who are literally dead.
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Mar 9, 2020 21:57
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That said, I’d rather watch more episodes of the Jo Martin Doctor at this point.
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Mar 10, 2020 00:39
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The_Doctor posted:That said, I’d rather watch more episodes of the Jo Martin Doctor at this point. It doesn't matter who the Doctor is if the writing is insulting.
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Mar 10, 2020 00:53
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DancingShade posted:But why a bland woman lead instead of a great woman lead, ie someone like Mary Tamm or Kate O'Mara. May they both rest in peace. In a perfect world, the first female doctor would have been played by Stephanie Cole.
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Mar 10, 2020 01:03
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ratings badquote:The conclusion to this year's series of Doctor Who, The Timeless Children, had an official rating of 4.69 million viewers, according to figures released by the Broadcasting Research Audience Board, BARB.
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Mar 10, 2020 01:16
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Eaters Of Light was a sad one, because it was written by the same person who wrote the last story of the old series, and I don't think it actually beat that story's ratings
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Mar 10, 2020 01:18
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Thank you, thread, for saying what everybody should be saying everywhere and not the gruesome alternative. This cast deserves better than Chris Chibnall.
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Mar 10, 2020 02:29
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I had high hopes for Chibnall because he was a long term fan like RTD and Moffat, and Broadchurch was great. The combo of Mega Nerd Whovian combined with Legit TV Show Producer From Other Genres seemed unstoppable. I was wrong. Chibnall falls prey to the worst impulses of RTD and Moffat and/or the poo poo they never really did but get accused of. He's trying to do a bunch of things different for no good reason besides "Doctor Who has never been like this!" Like I would probably have rather some outsider come in and poo poo all over canon with a reboot than be let down by someone who should have done much, much better but got too consumed with trying to distance himself from his predecessors. He has no doubt done his dammedest to ensure that's what we'll get next, and probably a decree to never mention poo poo from the old show again.
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Mar 10, 2020 02:50
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This is the worst season of Doctor Who I've lived through in real time and I spent my first Halloween after socially transitioning dressed as Thirteen. I still wear the coat when the weather's right. It feels super icky to be negative in this thread. We're not usually negative in this thread.
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Mar 10, 2020 03:04
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I'm not sure about 'worst season'. I think Capaldi's first two seasons were worse on the whole. It's just that this one is probably the worst ending, and it's real hard to recover from a bad ending because it's the last thing we leave with. It's also probably kinda hard to enjoy the top three stories in retrospect, because they all tie into that ending. Spyfall's good, but gives us the Master's part of that story. Fugitive of the Judoon's good, but it gives us Doctor Ruth. And the Mary Shelley episode I can't remember the name of is good, but it gives us the Cybermen's part of it all. The Master, Doctor Ruth and the Last Cyberman are even good in isolation in those stories, but it's probably gonna be hard to shake off what happens later.
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Mar 10, 2020 03:20
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Doctor Who has historically been lucky enough to cast actors who are strong enough to carry the show even when the scripts are total garbage, and that holds true for JodieDoc. We’ve suffered through a lot of bad seasons under good Docs, so I’m not panicking or anything, but it would definitely be nice if Jodie had her own Season 11 style run of consistently good episodes.
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Mar 10, 2020 03:21
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2house2fly posted:Eaters Of Light was a sad one, because it was written by the same person who wrote the last story of the old series, and I don't think it actually beat that story's ratings It's also a pretty good episode and deserved a better response.
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Mar 10, 2020 03:22
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Man if this series is even better than Capaldi's first two then I really should get to watching it
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Mar 10, 2020 03:25
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It's also a pretty good episode and deserved a better response. I agree! Quite a memorable one and mostly in good ways! Good setting, good characters, good plot! I enjoyed the mythical resolution too.
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Mar 10, 2020 03:46
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2house2fly posted:Man if this series is even better than Capaldi's first two then I really should get to watching it It's not. I really don't get why anyone thought Chibnal would be good. His episodes before the current doctor were the WORST written episodes in all of Dr. Who, IMO. Based on his writing and showrunning of Dr. Who, you could not force me to watch this Broadstreet, ever. I would love to have someone 'good' (a relative term, I realize) playing a female doctor, but this current one who seems to channel Ernest P. Worrel... 'know what I mean' is just bad. https://gph.is/1sz1ZpI
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Mar 10, 2020 03:56
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Ernest would have been an excellent American Doctor so What's the issue here?
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Mar 10, 2020 04:19
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I wish Chibnall wasn't insisting on writing or co-writing the bulk of the episodes. Writing on Who has never been his strength but he puts together incredible casts and the show has never looked better. He simply doesn't have what RTD and Moffat (for all their other faults) had when it comes to the ability to write the major big-time episodes. This cast they currently have is so loving good and it deserves so much better writing wise than what it has been getting.
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Mar 10, 2020 04:20
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I think the hope with Chibs was invested into his writers room approach that he lauded but doesn't actually seem to have used.
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Mar 10, 2020 04:22
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insert some sort of regeneration joke here
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