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Should Debate & Discussion be renamed to Debate Me Coward? This poll is closed. |
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Hello, some of you might know me as a regular poster in C-SPAM, Al! (I don't tend to get into a lot of political discussion and use C-SPAM mostly as a place to hone my artwork using current events as prompts). I have proposed in QCS that the subforum be renamed from Debate & Discussion to Debate Me Coward, because I think it would be funny and appropriate as a title for Debate & Discussion and other reasons (outlined below). I was given the permission to post this thread by a QCS moderator (who I can only assume was speaking for the Debate & Discussion mods) here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3910705#post501580828 The full text of my proposal is below (it is written in the style of a helpdesk ticket because QCS has a lighthearted theme around this): quote:Forum - Debate & Discussion This thread is for both voting on and discussing the merits of the title at hand. I am placing a poll here, however if a compelling argument is accepted by the moderation staff and a consensus of the posters in this thread, I think a voice vote should be held by the posters in the thread who have contributed to the discussion, even if the poll result is negative (after all, it is an opinion poll open to everyone, not an election). I would only like to set one rule for this debate, that this thread not be used to brainstorm other titles, only discussion of the title "Debate Me Coward" currently being proposed. Discussion of how the title should be styled (innercapped vs uppercapped for example) and how the title should be punctuated is allowed. I would also like to request that no discussion is had about my standing to raise this issue, as standing was already granted in QCS (linked above). I would also like to request that any of my fellow C-SPAM posters respect that you are here as a guest, refrain from toxic and abusive behavior or trolling. Finally, I would also ask that everyone please take the time to read the rules post at the top of Debate & Discussion, as they are new but important to understand as you have this debate.
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Jan 12, 2020 06:46
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Coward should be all caps
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Jan 12, 2020 06:49
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I concur that "coward" should be in all caps, as well as two exclamation points placed Lionel Hutz style to change the meaning slightly. Like this:quote:Debate Me! COWARD!
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Jan 12, 2020 06:52
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strong agree with this proposal
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Jan 12, 2020 06:52
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Stairmaster posted:Coward should be all caps Agreed, and in addition I would appreciate an elipses between 'me' and 'COWARD'.
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Jan 12, 2020 06:52
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It's a bad title because of the association with people like Ben Shapiro.
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Jan 12, 2020 06:53
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Sinteres posted:It's a bad title because of the association with people like Ben Shapiro. the titular COWARD
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Jan 12, 2020 06:53
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Firstly, sir or madam, thank you for thine proposal. It is something I have pondered for a score minutes. Secondly, the only change I would propose is that there should be a comma after "Me" so that it have proper grammar. Otherwise, I fully endorse this proposal and will gladly make any effort needed to make it possible.
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Jan 12, 2020 06:55
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Sinteres posted:It's a bad title because of the association with people like Ben Shapiro. This is an important concern in these trying times. However! The phrase is actually making fun of Ben Shapiro. It is lampooning right wing trolls trying to get people to engage their bad faith with good.
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Jan 12, 2020 06:55
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Also they're obviously trolling.
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Jan 12, 2020 06:55
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Sinteres posted:Also they're obviously trolling. sinteres, Do you have any evidence for this accusation?
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Jan 12, 2020 06:56
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Sinteres posted:Also they're obviously trolling. Really? I don't think so, just reading the OP. Do you have any proof? Also, even though you've made it clear that you're against the name change, do you have a name suggestion that would work better? You could even start your own thread with a different new name.
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Jan 12, 2020 06:57
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Remember this is only for changing the name to "Debate Me Coward". Advocating for an alternative should be in a different thread.
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Jan 12, 2020 06:59
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Cartoon Violence posted:Really? I don't think so, just reading the OP. Do you have any proof? My proposal is for D&D to be the child forum to cspam until you guys do something to get it shut down, but we get to vote on the new name for cspam in the meantime. Reversal of fortune.
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Jan 12, 2020 06:59
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Sinteres posted:It's a bad title because of the association with people like Ben Shapiro. I think this is the main criticism of the title, that it is too associated with the Alt-Right. However, while I do believe you are correct about its origin (if anyone can make an effortpost about it's genesis, I would appreciate it as I'm not enough of an expert on the topic to do so), people have adapted it to be a more generic unserious turn of phrase (often self-deprecating references to the merits of online debates). Here are several examples of people using it that way on twitter: https://twitter.com/FaintlySpotted/status/1213511253202755584 https://twitter.com/aaronhuertas/status/1215086386849562626 https://twitter.com/MrPumpkinFace1/status/1215917470332026881 There are many more, but I do not want to fill this thread up with twitter embeds.
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Jan 12, 2020 07:00
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Sinteres posted:My proposal is for D&D to be the child forum to cspam until you guys do something to get it shut down, but we get to vote on the new name for cspam in the meantime. Reversal of fortune. I'm sorry but this is not the thread for that.
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Jan 12, 2020 07:00
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Sinteres posted:Also they're obviously trolling. I am not trolling even though I'm not currently posting in the "house style" of C-SPAM currently. This is a 100% serious proposal. I do not feel like you are engaging with me in good faith and are trying to derail this discussion, so unless I see a moderator intervene I will be reporting this post.
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Jan 12, 2020 07:02
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Sinteres posted:My proposal is for D&D to be the child forum to cspam until you guys do something to get it shut down, but we get to vote on the new name for cspam in the meantime. Reversal of fortune. While I admire your new ideas (fresh eyes and ears can do wonders in creative teams), this isn't the thread for suggestions like that.
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Jan 12, 2020 07:04
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Cartoon Violence posted:I concur that "coward" should be in all caps, as well as two exclamation points placed Lionel Hutz style to change the meaning slightly. Like this:
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Jan 12, 2020 07:04
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Sinteres posted:It's a bad title because of the association with people like Ben Shapiro. This post is not funny, insightful, or clever. You're supposed to assume good faith in DnD, or as it's soon to be called, DMC. You're running afoul of one of the rules of DMC. quote:---Meet effort with effort: If a poster puts forward a well-developed argument, rebut with a similarly constructed counter argument that meaningfully addresses their points. Note that effort is not a matter of wordcount; it is about fostering a worthwhile dialogue and addressing one another in good faith. In particular, if sources or expertise are cited, counter arguments should critique or counter these, not simply ignore them. Please elaborate on how this post is obviously trolling, seeing how it started as a QCS thread, and was approved, by a mod no less, to be posted in DMC.
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Jan 12, 2020 07:08
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Boba Pearl posted:This post is not funny, insightful, or clever. You're supposed to assume good faith in DnD, or as it's soon to be called, DMC. You're running afoul of one of the rules of DMC. You're being way too obvious.
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Jan 12, 2020 07:10
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I really would have loved to approve this but you failed to clear the necessary 98% threshold of approval so I guess we're going to have to pass on this idea. My sincere apologies.
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