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Can someone post the letter from West to S. Gottlieb where West claims MKULTRA success, from the glossy pages? Epstein-threaders need it and I loaned my copy. My memory is trash, as well. Thank you!
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Also, loving wow that there was a caretaker living on the grounds who was up late and didn't hear anything.
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# ? Jul 7, 2020 19:38 |
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Can someone post the letter from West to S. Gottlieb where West claims MKULTRA success, from the glossy pages? Epstein-threaders need it and I loaned my copy. My memory is trash, as well. Thank you! quote:Sidney Gottlieb, West’s handler at the CIA, wrote to him under the pseudonym Sherman Grifford, using letterhead from “Chemrophyl Associates,” a front company. Their correspondence, which confirms West’s participation in MKULTRA, has never before been published. (Author collection)
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# ? Jul 7, 2020 20:09 |
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I got a copy of the book and I just hit the part where loving Otto Skorzeny is mentionned. What the gently caress.
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# ? Jul 31, 2020 04:34 |
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MonsieurChoc posted:I got a copy of the book and I just hit the part where loving Otto Skorzeny is mentionned. drat, I forgot that part, but just listened to the incredible recent trueanon episodes where he features heavily. in what context is he mentioned in chaos?
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# ? Jul 31, 2020 05:19 |
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:drat, I forgot that part, but just listened to the incredible recent trueanon episodes where he features heavily. in what context is he mentioned in chaos? He was connected to Reeve Whitson.
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# ? Jul 31, 2020 05:22 |
This thread convinced me to read this book. On the topic of shady three letter organisation poo poo, I recently read "Heavy Radicals: The FBI's Secret War on America's Maoists" and the follow-up book "A Threat of the First Magnitude: FBI Counterintelligence & Infiltration From the Communist Party to the Revolutionary Union 1962-1974". They show the FBI having thoroughly infiltrated communist & New Left organisations up to the top ranks, and using those infiltrators to sow division, encourage adventurism such as the Weather Underground, heighten personal conflicts and keep the FBI informed of their every move. The FBI even concocted nonexistent political groups such as the Maoist "Ad-Hoc Committee for a Marxist-Leninist Party", publishing inflammatory bulletins aimed at splitting the Communist Party. Honestly it shocked me just how prevalent the infiltration was - it gave me a lot more sympathy for those people who call people feds for the slightest provocation, because that paranoia was and probably still is very justified. People tend to focus more on the MK-Ultra poo poo and the wiretapping and all that, both because it's fascinating -crazy spy movie villain stuff and because it's illegal even by bourgeois laws, but IMO people should also look more into the infiltration, which was (and probably is) actually much more common than that poo poo and very destructive. Anyway thats my post on FBI poo poo to contribute to the thread
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# ? Jul 31, 2020 08:24 |
Just found a reddit q&a the author did: https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/hehti6/took_me_20_years_but_i_wrote_a_book_about_what/ Some of his speculation: https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/hehti6/took_me_20_years_but_i_wrote_a_book_about_what/fvrf52b/ e: lol @ his username on his site e-dt has issued a correction as of 11:44 on Jul 31, 2020 |
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# ? Jul 31, 2020 11:38 |
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e-dt posted:This thread convinced me to read this book. in hopes of feeling more knowledgeable about my own country i've started seeking out domestic spying lit in Canada and, in doing so, u quickly learn that Canada had organized secret intelligence agents infiltrating left wing and immigrant groups like the Fenians and pretty much any group of Indian immigrants (even though this was during the Raj and so they were, too, british empire citizens and should be able to freely travel among colonies) even before it became Canada proper via Confederation
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# ? Jul 31, 2020 12:07 |
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Another tale from late 1960s Los Angeles with many weird parallels to the topic of the thread:The Washington Post posted:CIA may have used contractor who inspired ‘Mission: Impossible’ to kill RFK, new book alleges
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# ? Aug 5, 2020 13:52 |
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lol their acronym is literally SUS
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 07:20 |
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Associated Press posted:After learning of Whitey Bulger LSD tests, juror has regrets
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 14:28 |
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Helsing posted:Maheu This is Pete Bondurant, right? How much did James Ellroy get correct?
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 15:20 |
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I had to put the book down for a bit when Otto Skorzeny entered the story
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:49 |
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bedpan posted:I had to put the book down for a bit when Otto Skorzeny entered the story E Depois do Adeus posted:This is Pete Bondurant, right? How much did James Ellroy get correct? goddamn time to reread all of American Tabloid again
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 00:04 |
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bedpan posted:I had to put the book down for a bit when Otto Skorzeny entered the story Having Nazi Germany AND Apartheid Israel on your resume is quite an accomplishment.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 00:16 |
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I had to put the book down again when links to the JFK and RFK assassinations were (again) discussed.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 03:28 |
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E Depois do Adeus posted:This is Pete Bondurant, right? How much did James Ellroy get correct? I actually just acquired a copy of American Tabloid a couple weeks ago and am looking forward to reading it when I have a bit more spare time this fall. bedpan posted:I had to put the book down again when links to the JFK and RFK assassinations were (again) discussed. Yeah the Jack Ruby suffering a complete mental break the same day that he met with Louis Jolyon West was one of the more ridiculous, shark jumping moments in this book.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 14:56 |
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I read the book and it seems obvious to me that Manson was supplying underage girls for celebrities and politicians, with the cops permission and cleanup, and thats what they covered up. No one would need him to study effects of LSD or run guns or drugs
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mistermojo posted:I read the book and it seems obvious to me that Manson was supplying underage girls for celebrities and politicians, with the cops permission and cleanup, and thats what they covered up. No one would need him to study effects of LSD or run guns or drugs First part agree, but with the second they could use him to study the effect of repeated LSD and other drug use in an isolated setting paired with physical/sexual abuse, fake preaching, and bonding activities like shoplifting and other escalating crimes.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 19:39 |
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Has anyone else here read Deep Cover by Cril Payne? I'm about halfway through CHAOS and the discussion of Whitson reminded me of it. There's a good synopsis here, but in short it's written by a former FBI agent who was trying to infiltrate The Weathermen. https://gregnesteroff.wixsite.com/kutnereader/post/i-was-a-slocan-valley-hippie-for-the-fbi I read it back when I was a high school bookworm reading anything that looked interesting and it definitely crack pinged me pretty hard.
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# ? Nov 16, 2020 23:22 |
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gently caress you. read this
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 01:12 |
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it’s an insanely good book.
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The Kingfish posted:it’s an insanely good book. incredibly so like, you can read it for pure entertainment value if you want to and still is absolutely great
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 03:50 |
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gently caress you. read this.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 22:23 |
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baba booey
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# ? Oct 6, 2022 02:36 |
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im going to read the book
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# ? Oct 6, 2022 10:22 |
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I always found the narrative “Charles Manson is the most dangerous serial killer in American history” suspect as gently caress when he never even killed anyone Charlie being an Mk-ultra victim by the intel boys simply makes it offensive MLSM has issued a correction as of 11:45 on Oct 6, 2022 |
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MLSM posted:I always found the narrative “Charles Manson is the most dangerous serial killer in American history” suspect as gently caress when he never even killed anyone I remember being real confused about this around 6th grade or so and every adult i asked told me because he had the power to brainwash people into doing murders
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu9B-c4fM9M
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