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3% returned, and they are calling it that heavy for him? Is it just me, or does that seem way too early. I know they are using exit polls, but don't those tend to be fairly unreliable?
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They called it for Biden at 0%. Not everyone does the exit polls, lots of folks have better poo poo to do. CNN literally called it for Biden with 10~ seconds left before the end of the primary.
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bulletsponge13 posted:3% returned, and they are calling it that heavy for him? Is it just me, or does that seem way too early. I know they are using exit polls, but don't those tend to be fairly unreliable? Biden's winning and will win SC by a gazillion and the exit polls just back that up. Exit polls are unreliable in close races, but they're consistent right now with a Biden win by 30% plus. When black voters are declaring Biden support by like 85-15%, and black voters are going to be 55%-ish of the SC vote, it's not close. In fact, there's an outside chance that Bernie gets zero delegates in SC, as he might not hit 15% in districts/precincts.
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Why is Biden so popular among black voters?
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A Bad Poster posted:Why is Biden so popular among black voters? uh he was Obama's vice-president
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A Bad Poster posted:Why is Biden so popular among black voters? He was the Vice President for a President who was very popular among black voters and they appeared to have a genuine friendship.
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Some exit poll stuff (take with grain of salt, etc etc): https://twitter.com/MattGrossmann/status/1233907269701709826 https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1233905448933261313 Honestly Biden only getting 60% of black voters ain't amazing, Hillary got 86% against Bernie in 2016.
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A Bad Poster posted:Why is Biden so popular among black voters? The three general answers are that (this is in admittedly broad strokes): 1) Black voters have taken so much poo poo that they tend not to be ideological purists. They care about winning more than bragging about how they had the "correct" ideological take. They preferred the safe (white centrist) bet (HRC) over the unproven black candidate (Obama) until white people proved they were willing to vote Obama. The common wisdom 3 months ago was that Biden was the more safe vote. A generic white guy who votes Bernie and loses can say "gently caress this" and keep on internet posting, but a middle-income to low-income black person who votes ideologically and loses faces potentially serious consequences. 2) Biden was Obama's VP, and he can invoke Obama. 3) There are plenty of dependable older black voters who will vote D 95%+ of the time, but that doesn't mean they're comfortable with leftism or being labeled as such.
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joat mon posted:He was the Vice President for a President who was very popular among black voters and they appeared to have a genuine friendship. Doc Hawkins posted:uh My advance apologies if my phrasing is weird in any of the below. Black voters are not a monolith, and they make up their own drat minds separately, but think of black voters as weak Republicans. Black voters are generally skeptical of governmental involvement in anything (shocker!), trend religious, don't like abortion very much, aren't completely sold on LGBT issues, and skew towards the "personal responsibility" side of things. The problem is that Republicans are racist as all gently caress. That's why the black vote has been "captured" by Democrats for all this time - way more black voters would vote Republican on the issues if it wasn't for that pesky racism thing. So, you have old white dude Bernie, singing the songs of revolution and government intervention while yelling at people a lot. Then, you have Obama's Vice President, taking a much more moderate tone, and is a genuinely nice guy that stuck with Obama through thick and thin. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Mar 1, 2020 |
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Terrifying Effigies posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1233905448933261313 i don't think weigel is making this comparison in bad faith, but it's wrong in the same way all the bad faith "bernie is doing worse than he was in 2016!!" takes are: there's a lot more people running than there were this time in 2016
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Saw something in D&D that I think a lot of people in here will highly appreciate.
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Doc Hawkins posted:i don't think weigel is making this comparison in bad faith, but it's wrong in the same way all the bad faith "bernie is doing worse than he was in 2016!!" takes are: there's a lot more people running than there were this time in 2016 Oh yeah definitely, plus Clyburn's endorsement was apparently a significant factor for a lot of voters per exit polls. 538 interviewed Clyburn a couple days ago prior to his endorsement and he was pretty candid about what he saw as overly ambitious promises from the Left and 'not wanting another McGovern'. Black voters are probably the hardest sell in the Democratic Party given the stakes involved as facialimpediment stated.
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Lol. 15% reporting. Lowest shown percentage is Gabbard at 0.9%, Bloomberg must be doing worse than Gabbard, because he's not even on the listed results on CBSN.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Lol. Bloomberg didn't register for the SC Primary. But meanwhile, I had a bit of a thought: Bernie should probably put in a call to Stacey Abrams after Super Tuesday.
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facialimpediment posted:Bloomberg didn't register for the SC Primary. Bloomberg already bought her
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Bloomberg already bought her
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bird food bathtub posted:Saw something in D&D that I think a lot of people in here will highly appreciate. Lmao
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Casimir Radon posted:Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh It's pretty close and I didn't know about it! https://apnews.com/89f5a5c46a8e73361600268d90ddf89b https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...ing-with-a-dog/ Bloomberg kicked $5m into her PAC. She's not endorsing anyone, but she has also appeared with Bloomberg and is making the same kind of excuses that Warren is making on the Super PAC support stuff.
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facialimpediment posted:It's pretty close and I didn't know about it! He's definitely not wrong, just probably not the best way to phrase it.
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Fister Roboto posted:He's definitely not wrong, just probably not the best way to phrase it. Here were my thought processesesseses in realtime, pre-this post: 1) Well, that sure seemed pretty close to buying a politician. 2) Wait, why would that be poor phrasing? 3) *walks off* Is it something about buying... oooooooooh HEY WAIT A MINUTE 4) HAHAHAH NOW I GET IT OH poo poo Edit: Steyer's out. One billionaire left! facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Mar 1, 2020 |
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facialimpediment posted:
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facialimpediment posted:Edit: Steyer's out. One billionaire left! Is he going to endorse Bernie?
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https://abc7ny.com/health/why-did-cdc-send-nyc-man-home-without-testing-for-coronavirus/5974999/ Beep boop so simple, no-one in the US has COVID-19 if you aren't testing for it! quote:By Josh Einiger
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orange juche posted:https://abc7ny.com/health/why-did-cdc-send-nyc-man-home-without-testing-for-coronavirus/5974999/ all I could think today is how impossible it's going to be to contain coronavirus in the US you'll never know how many people are infected because most people won't go to a doctor until it's ER time Making matters worse, it's going to be spread like crazy by asymptomatic or light symptom victims, because nobody can take time off of work to be sick at home
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US Berder Patrol posted:all I could think today is how impossible it's going to be to contain coronavirus in the US And if a vaccine gets made, it will be """affordable""".
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Fister Roboto posted:And if a vaccine gets made, it will be """affordable""". I mean, free is pretty drat affordable.
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A Bad Poster posted:Why is Biden so popular among black voters? SC is an odd duck in that most of the democratic base is as conservative as republicans on everything except white supremacy
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I spent about three hours driving all over the rear end end of my county gathering results posted at precincts and at least in my area the results for Bernie are significantly WORSE than the apocalyptic polls coming out all week
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fuckin lol forever at Warren losing to Yang in my hometown though
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butt came in lower than steyer, who dropped out. thats loving great.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Could you link to her holocaust denial? It's all German video and podcast content so far that surfaced after someone found a video of her taking part in a "panel" after the Synagogue shooting last year. Other panel members were Oliver Flesch, an MRA and holocaust-denier that runs an alt-right YouTube channel from Mallorca, Michael Stürzenberger, a right wing blogger and former member of PEGIDA (the precursor for today's AfD) that has multiple convictions for hate-speech and incitement/sedition and considers himself "an educator on Islam", and a radio host from RADIO DEUTSCHLAND EINS (I'll let you figure out which nation they think is best). People started digging up links to podcasts and clips in the comments/social media where she took part in similar panels or was a guest, but since the sources for the material have thus far exclusively been the channels of right-wingers themselves, they've managed to sanitize their act pretty quickly by removing all evidence of her saying the quiet part out loud to not endanger the very valuable message of their new totally-not-a-neonazi sweetheart "climate-realist". Since the internet never forgets anything, my hopes are that more clips of her saying vile poo poo will surface, but to be perfectly honest, her being exposed will ultimately do nothing to the movement in the long run. The ability to just say "fake news" (or, LÜGENPRESSE, in our case) and hand-wave away poo poo you said not two minutes ago on camera is absolutely frightening. The clip that kicked it off couldn't be removed by right wingers, because it was featured in a short video report about antisemitic sentiments following the Halle shooting on ZDF: https://www.zdf.de/politik/frontal-21/nach-dem-anschlag-in-halle-100.html You don't really need to speak German to know what's up when a German person invokes "DER JUDE".
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Duzzy Funlop posted:You don't really need to speak German to know what's up when a German person invokes "DER JUDE". They really like The Beatles?
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Chichevache posted:They really like The Beatles? I believe at one point they did say "Hey Jude, don't be afraid" but they really shouldn't have been.
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Chichevache posted:They really like The Beatles? Dude.... no
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A Bad Poster posted:I believe at one point they did say "Hey Jude, don't be afraid" but they really shouldn't have been. No no no
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