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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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PT6A posted:

How did they convince themselves this film has "no serious literary, artistic, political ... value"?

You can believe the film made poor choices (I believe it's okay, but I don't have to relitigate that here and now to make my point) but you'd have a hell of a time convincing someone that a Sundance award-winning film about a social/political issue has neither artistic nor political value.

These people dont look for that regardless. It's always surface level. But saying that makes the argument stick harder.

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

CelticPredator posted:

These people dont look for that regardless. It's always surface level. But saying that makes the argument stick harder.

No, that phrase is literally a component of the crime (at least here, and I assume by its inclusion, there as well). Even fully naked minors may be depicted if the work falls into one of those categories, because the law is against "child pornography" not "nude or near-nude children." The prosecution must prove that the work is pornographic in nature and I don't think anyone could make the case that's what happening here, even if one or more pedophiles get a boner.

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

absolutely hilarious.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

PT6A posted:

No, that phrase is literally a component of the crime (at least here, and I assume by its inclusion, there as well). Even fully naked minors may be depicted if the work falls into one of those categories, because the law is against "child pornography" not "nude or near-nude children." The prosecution must prove that the work is pornographic in nature and I don't think anyone could make the case that's what happening here, even if one or more pedophiles get a boner.

yea it's not just them being chuds, they literally have to show that there is zero artistic or political value in a story explicitly about a woman sharing her own experiences and hoping to reach parents of young girls like her to understand that perspective. Sharing one's perspective with the world is literally one of the definitions of art.

Like, to be full on 'child porn' you have be making, you know, porn with kids, as in there's no real point to it other than getting the audience off, and it's a rough argument to make that a movie ending with the main character bursting into to tears in front of a shocked and disgusted audience is meant to give people a boner.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Cut to a room full of old white republican men all emphatically insisting that while they 100% did not find it arousing because they are good Christians they all know plenty of degenerates who have told them they got excited watching it.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
yea I'm looking forward to the transcript of the obviously very normal and cool lawyer explaining how well OBVIOUSLY this movie about children is meant to be purely sexual as its primary function with nothing else to it, I mean just look at it, it's got, ya know, kids and...kids...and, you know...their bodies...the kids' bodies in outfits and all...I'm sorry what was the question?

Kangra
May 7, 2012

It's kind of weird to be having fantasies about other people having fantasies about children.

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whos that broooown
Dec 10, 2009

2024 Comeback Poster of the Year

Kangra posted:

It's kind of weird to be having fantasies about other people having fantasies about children.


That's just super empathy. You should be proud.

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