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With the closure of the General Election (GE) thread and it's de facto function of CSPAM outreach station and leftist complaint space, I find that a thread for being disagreeable with the policies and practices of Joseph Robinette Biden, the current President-Elect is necessary. Without arguments about how we are disappointed by him, we cannot create a consensus on what we would like to see happen instead. I would like this thread to rely on facts, be reasonable and try to refrain from attacking other posters. If you want to shitpost about Biden sucks and how liberals are actually worse than Hitler, CSPAM is obviously available. I'll start: The 1994 crime bill (Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act) has resulted in a massive expansion of the carceral state and Biden is one of it's chief architects. Historically he has been a champion of the drug war and does not support legalizing marijuana despite numerous states doing so. This has been a tool for law enforcement to attack communities of color for at least 50 years. There is also the problem of imprisoning immigrants who are attempting to enter the country. I believe Biden has significant problems with personal space and unwanted touching, as presented by complaints from 7 women who have worked for him and numerous hilariously uncomfortable gifs. He had such a problem with this that he apologized for it and has since been accused of sexual assault. Biden helped create the student debt problem he is currently claiming he will try to fix. He broke with Democrats to sign a Republican bill to make student debt non-dischargeable and, in a fashion very similar to the massive prison system, this has created a system of student debt and endlessly ramping cost for ground floor access to the job market. Feel free to post your own complaints (and rebuttals!) about Biden (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Here's some stuff about how Biden's support of the Iraq war extended far beyond a simple vote. quote:Do you have a link to support the idea that Biden "spearheaded" the war in Iraq? https://theintercept.com/2020/01/07/joe-biden-iraq-war-history/ Passage of note: quote:Biden’s thought process puts critical hearings he held in 2002 as chair of the Foreign Relations Committee in sharper context. That summer, as the world was focused on the war in Afghanistan, from where the attacks of September 11, 2001, had been launched, Biden sought to begin “a national dialogue” on Iraq. During a series of high-profile hearings, he feigned neutrality, but his earlier questioning of Ritter leaves no doubt where he stood: Iraq had WMDs, and the only way to disarm Iraq with confidence was to depose Saddam Hussein. Biden, given his chairmanship, was a leading voice on foreign policy within the party. (This is by the way all the while Biden knew that there was no WMDs in Iraq) https://jacobinmag.com/2020/02/joe-biden-george-bush-foreign-policy-war/ A bit long but the relevant bit here begins around this: quote:So by the time Bush and his British counterpart decided shortly after September 11 that they would use the attacks to go after Iraq, Biden had already helped lay some of the groundwork for their campaign. And despite batting away suggestions of regime change in Iraq as late as November 2001, he soon went all in. I hope this thread becomes useful in some way in our very serious and very possible project of pushing Biden to the left 
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Nov 10, 2020 20:14
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Back in the halycon days when I was optimistic about politics made an effort post about him Joe Biden  Joe Biden's Racism Problem https://mobile.twitter.com/aidachav...genumber%3D1539 HOLY gently caress https://twitter.com/KindAndUnblind/...genumber%3D1256 Joe Biden will cut your Social Security and Medicare https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/s...ial-security%2F https://mobile.twitter.com/davidsir...r%3D1265%23pti1 https://mobile.twitter.com/ibrahimp...r%3D1254%23pti1 e: pruned some dead Twitter links e2: also this Here's how Papa Joe continues to cause the financial misery of thousands of ppl per year The 2005 Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (BAPCPA) was meant, on paper, to prevent people from abusing Chapter 7 bankruptcy. It accomplished that through means testing, making it harder for people to declare Chapter 7 bankruptcy versus Chapter 13. If a person's income exceeds a certain threshold, they're ineligible for declaring Chapter 7. The bill also required people to complete a credit counseling course no more than 180 days before they declare bankruptcy. It also limits the kinds of debt a person can discharge through bankruptcy: If they use a credit card to spend too much money on "luxury goods" or withdraw too much in cash advances, that credit line can't be erased. And, gallingly, the bill made it completely impossible to discharge student loan debt. It may very well be the single piece of legislation most responsible for putting the U.S. in the current student debt crisis. Biden was one of the bill's major Democratic champions, and he fought for its passage from his position on the Senate Judiciary Committee. He had pushed for two earlier bankruptcy reform bills in 2000 and 2001, both of which failed. But in 2005, BAPCPA made it through, successfully erecting all kinds of roadblocks for Americans struggling with debt, and doing so just before the financial crisis of 2008. Since BAPCPA passed, Chapter 13 filings went from representing just 24 percent of all bankruptcy filings per year to 39 percent in 2017. Melissa Jacoby, a University of North Carolina law professor specializing in bankruptcy, told Politico, "I doubt that the bill reined in the abuses that the bill was premised on, in part because they didn’t necessarily exist in the first place." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gq...ruptcy-bill/amp and oh yeah he reintroduced usury on a national scale https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/11/biden-bankruptcy-president/ Shageletic fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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Nov 10, 2020 22:54
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gently caress joe biden
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Nov 10, 2020 23:48
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hello from the gas chamber
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Nov 10, 2020 23:49
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a big pragmatic issue that remains to be addressed is whether or not biden has changed from being a frankly godawful negotiator with the republican senate from his days as obama's VP. the president is the one that sets the tone for this stuff, and if he continues to have an outsized concern with reaching out to his republican colleagues, that bodes insanely ill for any potential legislative agenda e: https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1326251496376324096 yeah uh if biden is sincere about this lmao absolutely jack poo poo is gonna get done A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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Nov 11, 2020 00:29
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Unoriginal Name posted:With the closure of the General Election (GE) thread and it's de facto function of CSPAM outreach station and leftist complaint space, I find that a thread for being disagreeable with the policies and practices of Joseph Robinette Biden, the current President-Elect is necessary. Why is the existence of a C-SPAM embassy thread necessary
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Nov 11, 2020 02:03
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Is a rapist.
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Nov 11, 2020 02:08
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Reality Protester posted:Is a rapist. https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/05/the-attacks-on-tara-reade-are-unbelievable-bullshit
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Nov 11, 2020 02:23
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^^^ It's funny to see her writing positively about Nathan Robinson given what ended up happening there with the Reade stuff. Look, I see all this stuff you people are saying about Biden. But, have you considered this - the future is intrinsically unknowable. You don't know that Biden won't suddenly develop a brain tumor that makes him a socialist, and it is unforgivable "doom posting" to dismiss the possibility of this bright future. For real though, my issue with the "we can make gains for the left under Biden" attitude is that it isn't nearly as harmless as its proponents believe. One of the necessary prerequisites to achieving political goals like this is acknowledging the reality you live in. And that reality is that the left has repeatedly lost during the entire post-Great Recession era in every way that actually matters, and that the Democratic Party isn't, and has never been, a possible partner in achieving a good future for the disenfranchised. I think most of these people fundamentally view the Democratic Party as (at best) "a disappointment," rather than seeing it for the enemy it actually is. Biden and other party leadership are not going to suddenly start supporting our goals if we persuade them that it will get more votes, because they are opposed to our goals on their actual merits, rather than out of some misguided sense of pragmatism. There is no God of Political Optimism who is going to reward people for keeping the faith in achieving left-wing goals under Democratic leadership. Barack Obama is not going to be waiting on front of the pearly gates to thank you for believing in our country's institutions. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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Nov 11, 2020 02:33
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After 25,000 posts on this subject, a second GE thread is not needed and I'd like to remind people that you're free to post negative things about biden in any thread where it is relevant. closing this now
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Nov 11, 2020 03:10
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