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habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
I still think Pharnakes should invade Perth.

e: Snipe! Very big-time update on the last page.

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Cimber
Feb 3, 2014
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I guess this sort of thing is going to happen to every IJN player at some point, due to the sheer number of CVs that the Allies can put to sea. When the IJN has ten carriers and the Americans are floating 30 CVs it gets rather grim.

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
Woof. Can those damaged carriers even put a CAP up to defend themselves anymore?

Tuna-Fish
Sep 13, 2017

tatankatonk posted:

Woof. Can those damaged carriers even put a CAP up to defend themselves anymore?

IIRC no plane can fly off a Carrier if the system damage + flotation damage is > 50. This applies to every carrier hit today. The cap that was in the air landed on island bases, so at least they can be useful.

Cimber
Feb 3, 2014
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Tuna-Fish posted:

IIRC no plane can fly off a Carrier if the system damage + flotation damage is > 50. This applies to every carrier hit today. The cap that was in the air landed on island bases, so at least they can be useful.

I'm frankly surprised the carriers didn't sink. IJN damage control isn't nearly as good as USN damage control (Unless they modded that or turned it off), so any hex movement should theoretically cause more damage to the carriers.

ChocolatePancake
Feb 25, 2007
At this point I imagine it is important to try and combine all your remaining carriers into one force, otherwise you have little way of resisting his advance through the Marshals. Gather everything together for one final decisive battle!

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Part of the problem is that Alikchi doesn't even really have many full CVs right now.

It is interesting that the major damage came from an effort to be irritating to Alikchi and snag a short term tactical victory by forcing the US to spend time planning an amphibious assault to re-take Ebon instead of using that time to attack somewhere more important... despite it not being strategically important to Pharnakes. I feel like that happens a lot in real life.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
The idea of hiding those carriers in an atoll that's tiny even by Pacific atoll standards is really funny to me. The boats will be bigger than the islands they're hiding among!

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Pirate Radar posted:

The idea of hiding those carriers in an atoll that's tiny even by Pacific atoll standards is really funny to me. The boats will be bigger than the islands they're hiding among!

Someone remind me, once ships are docked do they get immune to Naval Strike and have to be Port Striked?

Cimber
Feb 3, 2014
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I just realized the date of this battle was a year and a day after the historical Battle of Midway.

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk

Alchenar posted:

Someone remind me, once ships are docked do they get immune to Naval Strike and have to be Port Striked?

Once their fleet is disbanded and they are just listed as stuff in that port? yup, Port Strike or nothing.

I believe being on fire limits your ability to take a ship out of the fleet and into the "dock".

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.
Sorry for laughing at this particular bit of misfortune, but I think it's quite funny how the carrier fleet, in the effort to keep from striking at any of the bases, ends up exactly in the middle of a 4-hex spot of empty ocean while everything it could potentially strike at is just out of the set range.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

TheDemon posted:

Sorry for laughing at this particular bit of misfortune, but I think it's quite funny how the carrier fleet, in the effort to keep from striking at any of the bases, ends up exactly in the middle of a 4-hex spot of empty ocean while everything it could potentially strike at is just out of the set range.

That’s pretty much precisely what happened to me in our game. I range-capped my carrier aircraft to ensure my strike didn’t take off with half loads, and rolled the dice on where I thought he was going. I rolled wrong, and the Japanese range advantage meant that Pharnakes was exactly one hex out of range, and the reciprocal wasn’t true.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
ngl I am chuffed that Alikchi got a win, must feel amazing for him after the last gestures at entire game

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009



I-173 is forced down in the Gilberts.




I-27 next door takes a couple tickles.




But gets away the second time.




And the third.




No CAP over Jodhpur, but plenty of weather.




None here either.




But some at Delhi.




Well, we’ll take evens.




:argh:




Still, should be clear now.




Jodhpur first though.




:geno:




There were thirty bombers reported here yesterday!




That Scythe is still over Delhi and has gone even higher!




gently caress him anyway.




But he does claim a Tojo.




We get one on the ground with this wave.




And he’s still there when another sweep arrives.




:fuckoff:




This is good.




Our LRCAP outside Jodhpur engages.




The weather isn’t quite so bad here.




Venturas aren’t supposed to be good!




Gasmata.




Blah blah blah.




Only one Zero left near Jodhpur.




And he didn’t manage to get one.




He’s got the bombers out near Delhi too.




Poor 16th recon regiment, they can’t catch a break.




Boomerangs getting a little ambitious there.




They’re never going to hit anything at high altitude level bombing.




Gove.




Not much so far.




He’s throwing everything he’s got to save Jodhpur.




It’s not going to be enough. I hope.




Dawin :getin:




Looks promising.




That’s the stuff.




Roi Namur is bad.




There’s nothing much here to be bombed but we need this airfield.




This is what we just can’t counter. Long range bombers coming in from the FoW and denying us airfields we can’t afford to defend.




We’ve caught these bombers though.




And only one makes it through.




And that one eats flak.




The guns I put at Gove are disappointing in their results, though.




The CVLs turn at Jodhpur.




Better than the marine sentais anyway.




Yes please.




What is he thinking.




Sploosh.




First Darwin and now Rabaul.




The weather has worsened over Gove in the afternoon.




They still hit something.




And now Lae.




Thick jungle here.




Mili.




Minimal damage.




lovely at Umboi.




And it shows.




More at Darwin?




All through this time :ohdear:




We needn't have worried.




Another.




Oh well, we’re doing good so far.




And it looks like we aren’t going to get a carrier strike. Which is very good because I don’t know what that is still near Ebon, but it terrifies me.




And we’re out of the airphase, thank you.




Boosh.




Much closer odds this time, but we make good inroads anyway.




Quieter at Bangalore today.




Still refusing to give up.




:sickos:




Ooops!




Someone's career just ended.







Well.





Did pretty loving good in the air today, if half of it was due to Alikchi overreaching with the Liberators.

I suppose he was gambling I’d strip everything to the Marshalls, which I would but the Tojos are too short ranged to go, so.




Just Tenryu so far.




Maizaru starts a nice “B” cargo ship, due for the 26th of October.




Yokohama a tanker, 4th of April.




And a second at Tokyo.




We’re unspotted here, and Taiho has got things more or less under control.

Far from a guarantee of survival yet, of course.




Shokaku is not in such good shape, but she does have a chance, maybe.




Zuikaku though has fought the good fight for long enough. Rest in pieces beautiful lady.




Not quite what I’d had in mind for bait, but maybe it works?

With any luck Medake will be reported as a CV, and he’ll think any less damaged CVs went straight for Truk, while one or more cripples got stuck and couldn’t move.

No idea why they didn’t just sink Zuikaku though, the weather is fine.







Taiho is going to make a sprint tonight for Ebadon in the north of the Marshalls. If nothing else I want to not have all our eggs in one basket.




Shokaku we are sending to Jaluit. I am much less sure about that, because he is surveilling the island. But it’s been a couple days since the last overflight by the look of it, and the port levels might just help Shokaku deal with the fires.




We shall most certainly be returning the favour here today.




The Nells don’t seem to be having much luck at Jodhpur, so we’ll send them to Lahore again, I think.




Our light tank units have fought extremely well, but we need to wait for the guards tank to digest their pocket and for the infantry to catch up before we can tackle Ajmer.




The battleships might as well bombard Karachi before they go to Bombay for ammo and fuel.

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.
Even if Taiho and Shokaku survive they'll be in the yards for a long time, but limiting the CV losses to just Zuikaku would be quite a lucky recovery after how many hits they took.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Honestly having seen Alikchi's update of the 5th (he provided video) it's a little heart-breaking that all three carriers aren't already sunk given the amount of hits they took. The RNG really sided with Pharnakes on that one, particularly with the absence of major engine damage allowing for a speedy withdrawal.

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk
Even more interesting, the scuttling of that one carrier with all those extra planes stocked in it, might convince Alikchi that he got more than that single carrier.

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Shame about that carrier. But you got lucky. And nailbiter! Good to see Alikchi doing well.

By scuttling the carrier do you save the pilots/officers on it?

And how long till your carriers come out of the yards at Singapore?

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009



Splat.




Well, it’s something.




No CAP over Jodhpur.




Still some at Delhi.




I would have hoped for at least even :(




Second wave before strike, nice.




Even this time.




Clear for the Nells at Lahore.




Despite the tiny airbase and the target rich environment they don’t really achieve anything.




Still one Hurricane over Delhi.




OK ish weather.




Very nice.




And now that Hurricane is under our next sweep.




Not that we get him anyway.




I’m very surprised we are doing so much damage here, it’s a level nine airfield and there aren’t that many planes left, whereas at Lahore with a level one airfield and about the same or even more targets we did poo poo all :confuoot:




Sweep arriving at Ailinglaplap.




They casually wreck us, but whatever, there’s taskforces at sea, the carriers didn’t hide and we are going to lose both of them.


gently caress!




Venturas wander into the LRCAP at Jodhpur.




They were barely better than Hudsons IRL :argh:




Well, at least they didn’t do much damage.




Thunder at Gasmata.




Not much damage yet.




More at Jodhpur.




Apparently those three Venturas swept our CAP away??




They still don’t do that much damage at least.




And now the Boomerangs.




Lae.




Jungle is hard to bomb accurately in.




Gove.




Light from this wave.




I’m sure there’s plenty more to come.




Umboi Island.




Storms here too. Maybe there will be storms over the carriers? :pray:




Here come the Liberators for Alinglaplap.




Straight through, of course.




And no bad weather here :(




There’s too many.




We’re not even half way through 1943!




More.




The CVLs’ turn at Jodhpur.




One for one isn’t great, but I’ll take it.




Welp, end of the road for Shokaku.




It’s pretty clear how this is going to end.




There’s no coming back from that.




And Taiho :smith:




They didn’t even have escort, and didn’t need it.




I had thought that maybe when they didn’t attack in the morning we’d somehow get away with it, but no.




Suppression of our runways continues.




A couple of our destroyers were forced to be left behind as they ran out of fuel.




Despite being literally stationary we somehow only lose one.




Ro-103 misses a minelaying convoy.




Well, we’ll do some damage here at least.




The Indian army continues to be a nice punching bag and source of VP.




A good day at Bangalore.




Just give up already.




That’s just ridiculous.







I honestly thought we were at least going to save Taiho :smith:





Not a great day in the air.




The worst bit is I have no idea why that didn’t work. I went back and checked the orders from the end of turn and it should have.

Oh well, witp giveth, witp taketh away.




Mitsuki Maru is here to save the day!




Eikyo Maru is somewhat more useful.




We lay down another of these really rather poo poo oilers at Sasebo, due on the 17th of October.




And at Maizaru a rather nice base unit arrives.




Welp.




The gut punch is he hasn’t overflown Namorik, we could have just sat there and we’d have been fine. Well, Shokaku might not have been.




We just can’t defend against the combination of Hellcat sweeps and Liberator bombings. Our only chance is to shut down Tabiteuea, but I really can’t see how to do that. If only we still had three more carriers :allears:







There’s nothing for Chuho to do but return to Truk. This will at least give us three operational carriers, it should have been six and we could have really forced Alikchi to wait at least another half a year before finishing the Marshalls campaign.




At least we can ship some more AA out to Truk. We are going to need it.




I don’t know if he’s garrisoned Finschhafen yet or not, so we’ll send a suicide squad to find out. If he hasn’t and we can get ashore here, I’ve got a plan to force him to fight hard here rather than bypassing.




Apparently Hyderabad (Singh) is the cool place to be now, if you are a RAF bomber, so we’ll bomb there.




And since there seems to be minimal flak there, we’ll send the Nells too.




That means we don’t need to sweep Jodhpur tomorrow, and can focus on LRCAP over our advance.




Time for the main advance into Delhi. 2.5k AV so far, with another 1500 or so to catch up over the next week.

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Pharnakes posted:

The worst bit is I have no idea why that didn’t work. I went back and checked the orders from the end of turn and it should have.

Oh well, witp giveth, witp taketh away.

I think someone said in one of the threads that there are restrictions on disbanding ships into port if they're too damaged or have the wrong type of damage?

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Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Zurai posted:

I think someone said in one of the threads that there are restrictions on disbanding ships into port if they're too damaged or have the wrong type of damage?

Oh yeah that rings a bell. I reckon that's actually in the manual somewhere. One of the few times the game says 'oh no we're not letting you pull an invisibility cloak'.

E: Really glad that Alikchi gets the full outcome he deserves.

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