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Bismack Billabongo
Oct 9, 2012

Wet
Is it just because he’s a lawyer?

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No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Because his entire existence is driven to get more people to click and in this instance, it’s very easy to hate the Raiders. Like every instance.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
My theory is Florio wants to be Mike Mayock and get hired as a GM but he wants to do it "right"

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


i'm tampering right now

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

at this point it's gotta be a bit

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
Mike Florio sucks. The end.

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you
Mike Florio is old man angry at cloud personified

nah
Mar 16, 2009

Don’t know what you’re talking about OP sorry

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


nah posted:

Don’t know what you’re talking about OP sorry

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/03/jon-grudens-comments-to-richard-sherman-are-blatant-tampering/

Florio posted:

Cris Collinsworth tried. He tried to keep Raiders coach Jon Gruden from potentially committing a tampering violation. Gruden didn’t seem to care.

Collinsworth, who hosts a podcast featuring 49ers cornerback Richard Sherman, had Gruden on as a guest. Collinsworth mentioned the fact that former Seahawks defensive coordinator Gus Bradley has arrived in Las Vegas as the defensive coordinator, before pointing out the elephant that enters the room when a player under contract with one team is speaking directly to a coach from another team.

“I know there’s tampering rules out there and I don’t want to bring up anything that might create a problem for you, because I know that you’ve been fined a few shekels over the years,” Collinsworth said.

“Yes I have,” Gruden said. “I’ve been fined, I’ve been punished very, very harshly. Richard Sherman, if you are a free agent, which there is a rumor you are, we are looking for an alpha presence in our secondary. Somebody that could play this Hawk 3-press technique with the read step. If you’re available and interested, maybe you and I can get together at some point off air.”

Said Sherman in response: “There’s a conversation to be had, for sure. I am free and available these days.”

As one General Manager said, unsolicited and unprompted, in response to Gruden’s comments, “This is blatant tampering.”

And it is. Here’s the relevant language, from page 5 of the NFL’s Anti-Tampering Policy: “Any public or private statement of interest, qualified or unqualified, in another club’s player to that player’s agent or representative, or to a member of the news media, is a violation of this Anti-Tampering Policy. (Example of a prohibited comment: ‘He’s an excellent player, and we’d very much like to have him if he were available, but another club holds his rights.’)”

Gruden went farther than that. His comments presume Sherman already is a free agent. He isn’t. He remains under contract with the 49ers until March 17, when the new league year begins and he becomes a free agent.

Via email, the NFL has declined comment on the situation.

Whether the league actually does anything about it remains to be seen. Sometimes they don’t, sometimes they do. In this case, how can’t they? It’s as open and obvious as it gets; even if the 49ers don’t currently plan to keep Sherman, they have his rights through March 17. He’s not free. He’s not available.

And Gruden, who has been in and around the NFL for decades, should know that. If he doesn’t, there’s a good chance he eventually soon will.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/04/richard-sherman-tries-to-downplay-jon-grudens-tampering/

Florio posted:

Earlier this week, Raiders coach Jon Gruden engaged in a blatant act of tampering with 49ers cornerback Richard Sherman. Gruden’s comments were made on camera, in a podcast interview.

Sherman predictably has tried to downplay the reality that Gruden committed a clear violation of the rules regarding the things that can be said about, and to, a player under contract with another team.

“All of this sports is just a big freakin’ reality TV show, as you know,” Sherman said, via Matt Maiocco of NBC Sports Bay Area. “But I think there’s legitimate interest. They have a good team. It’s going to be a conversation. There will be a conversation with a few teams and I’ll make the decision that’s best for me and my family, and off we go.”

Fueling Sherman’s belief that there’s interest is, obviously, the fact that Gruden (drum roll) said so.

“Richard Sherman, if you are a free agent, which there is a rumor you are, we are looking for an alpha presence in our secondary,” Gruden said on a podcast with Cris Collinsworth and Sherman. “If you’re available and interested, maybe you and I can get together at some point off air.”

The rules are clear: “Any public or private statement of interest, qualified or unqualified, in another club’s player to that player’s agent or representative, or to a member of the news media, is a violation of this Anti-Tampering Policy.”

There’s no “joking” or “kidding” or “podcast host” or “big freakin’ reality TV show” exception to the rule. Gruden, who has been in and around the NFL for nearly 30 years, knows or should know the rules. He chose to disregard them.

If the rule won’t be applied in this specific case, the rule has no meaning. Indeed, nearly five years ago, the Chiefs lost a third-round pick and a sixth-round pick because Chiefs coach Andy Reid spoke directly to receiver Jeremy Maclin during the legal tampering window, which allows team to negotiate with agents but not to talk to the players they represent.

Here, Gruden spoke directly with Sherman weeks before the start of free agency. Gruden communicated his interest directly to Sherman. The fact that it happened on a podcast doesn’t excuse it. If anything, Gruden should have been extra careful when agreeing to appear on a podcast featuring a player who is under contract with another team and who is poised to become a free agent.

This isn’t Sherman’s fault. It’s not Collinsworth’s fault. It’s Gruden’s fault. And if the Raiders don’t lose a third-round pick and a sixth-round pick over this, the Chiefs should demand that they get theirs back.

literally more words about tampering this week from him than any other one subject. also :lmao: at that last paragraph, last year's champions and potentially also this year's champions are suffering so much from those lost mid-round picks

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

I don't like Gruden or the Raiders but who gives a poo poo

dirty shrimp money
Jan 8, 2001

I kinda hoped TMZ would run Florio off the internet when they moved into sports gossip but nope

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Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i don't really know who mike florio is. website or radio guy of some kind. it would be funny if he tries to fart and poob comes out

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