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deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

internet celebrity posted:

Latent3Visions just came out on the creators patreon last night and lets you use multiple prompts, image seeds, and lets you weight all the elements as much or as little as you want. This poo poo is getting crazy now. I keep running out of memory though and I'm not sure how to address that.

:eyepop: It's incredible to see this develop so fast in such short timeframes. There was a fork of l2v that could output generated images directly to google drive and it was incredible, hoping to see that added to l3v

I'm not getting errors (yet) on a paid colab account connected to a Tesla, you might want to check what gpu you got and try again if it's not something with 16gb+

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A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
This might be a dumb question but who owns the art that gets created through these algorithms? Like if I wanted to sell t-shirts with one of the designs on them or something?

You can imagine there being museum exhibitions of machine generated art where the human curator has an even more important role, just curious what the future will be like with this stuff.

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

A Strange Aeon posted:

This might be a dumb question but who owns the art that gets created through these algorithms? Like if I wanted to sell t-shirts with one of the designs on them or something?

You can imagine there being museum exhibitions of machine generated art where the human curator has an even more important role, just curious what the future will be like with this stuff.

Why do you even care? Machines are going to enslave us all and it is going to be glorious anyway!!!

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]
that will most likely have to do with whoever created the code until some big name Artist decides to sell some images at a Christies auction

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
Like, entering a prompt doesn't really seem to be doing a lot of artistic heavy lifting, but if you're tweaking lots of parameters and curating the results, if you squint, that's sort of like mixing paints.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

A Strange Aeon posted:

This might be a dumb question but who owns the art that gets created through these algorithms? Like if I wanted to sell t-shirts with one of the designs on them or something?

You can imagine there being museum exhibitions of machine generated art where the human curator has an even more important role, just curious what the future will be like with this stuff.

There's no legal precedent on it. Personally I look at the AI like a tool - it's a really advanced paintbrush. Generally copyright law will side with someone if their creative input was necessary for the creative work to be created. In this case since the art would not exist without you typing in a prompt (and now with l3v, multiple prompts, weighting them, selecting source images) - and even more, if you then collate several frames into a gif, your creative input was necessary. Toolmakers aren't able to claim ownership of products created with their tools, so I would expect the law to side the person generating the art. That being said it would be entirely within the dev's rights to stop you from continuing to use their tool to generate commercial art.

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Apr 30, 2021

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

A Strange Aeon posted:

This might be a dumb question but who owns the art that gets created through these algorithms? Like if I wanted to sell t-shirts with one of the designs on them or something?

the answer is whoever right clicks on the image and hits "save image". until that point is only exists in RAM and it is not a "fixed in permanent form". the act of saving it to your hard drive gives you the copyright (at least in Canada)

quote:

Fixation in Canadian copyright law is a threshold consideration that must be used in copyright infringement cases by courts to determine if copyright actually exists.

In Canada, a work "must be expressed to some extent at least in some material form, capable of identification and having a more or less permanent endurance" to be subject to copyright protection

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
if you write a song on a keyboard the keyboard company doesn't own the song because their device generated the tones, you own the song

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Also I can say from experience that it still takes certain finessing of prompts and understanding of the way that computers interpret language to create quality work. I've been at this since I first saw this thread and the vast majority of what I've generated has been total garbage. Like it's more nuanced than "type word and get art"

Anyway here's an example of how it uses source images in L3V! Based on this drawing I did:


and asked to create an illustrated city skyline it gave me these:



And when asking for an apartment building based on this one:


I got these:



So it seems to not use the image conceptually but for colors/stylistic purposes and a few accents here and there.

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Apr 30, 2021

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Rutibex posted:

if you write a song on a keyboard the keyboard company doesn't own the song because their device generated the tones, you own the song

But what if you write that song only using samples from the auto-play?

I think the person typing the phrase has a lot of control and ultimately will be the owner. You can control what happens fairly easily by adding extra words (Haven't tried that new one out yet) but there is a learning curve and you can get the AI to do some impressive stuff. You can even rerun the same prompt for slightly different images sometimes depending on how much source material there is.

This also makes me think this tool would be worth a lot or have strings attached such as royalties once it is refined.

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

pixaal posted:

But what if you write that song only using samples from the auto-play?

Wesley Willis still owns the copyright to Rock and Roll McDonald's :colbert: (Or, his estate does, I guess.)

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Version 3 is a bit more experimental in later iterations. These are the last 6 frames after generating around 30 frames:




Based on this drawing:


Here's an example of how something can evolve over time with it (1st -> 5th -> 20th generation)
----> ---->


It seems to have some stitching issues compared to L2V and loses definition over time but that could be from using flat-shaded illustrated source images

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Apr 30, 2021

Bula Vinaka
Oct 21, 2020

beach side
Version 3 with just text: "A fat guy feeding a bunch of fat raccoons hot dogs"

Revins
Nov 2, 2007





tune the FM in to static and pretend that its the sea


the storming of normandy beach in the style of hieronymus bosch

Smik
Mar 18, 2014

Sydney Bottocks posted:

"pope innocent x in the style of francis bacon"



I think it took the "bacon" part quite literally :v:

(The original Francis Bacon painting, for reference)

I think that has to be my favourite one so far, if only because it makes the AI kind of adorable.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
text input is 'the most beautiful man in the universe' and 'disco' as the second prompt. the image was of ET

1:


2:

Tafferling
Oct 22, 2008

DOOT DOOT
ALL ABOARD THE ISS POLOKONZERVA

Not Duck


Duckish


Duckest


Duck in a tree, i'm very boring

Tafferling fucked around with this message at 13:30 on May 1, 2021

Bula Vinaka
Oct 21, 2020

beach side
Jesus as a terminator endoskeleton

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

I dare you to call it a perm again..

deep dish peat moss posted:

:eyepop: It's incredible to see this develop so fast in such short timeframes. There was a fork of l2v that could output generated images directly to google drive and it was incredible, hoping to see that added to l3v

I'm not getting errors (yet) on a paid colab account connected to a Tesla, you might want to check what gpu you got and try again if it's not something with 16gb+

I joined on patreon and to someone interested at the edge of machine learning this is the rabbit hole to fall into. OpenAI is evaluating what the machine learned and the simple fact they discovered neurons that overlapped “textual name of character/pencil sketch of character/obvious image of character” about spiderman is absolutely nuts. Not that it’s possible, but that there is a recent blog post about figuring out why is amazing.

Patreon is $5, but you’ll probably hit a wall if you’re a tech like me but don’t fully understand these collaborative python notebooks. They appear to kick rear end.

Tafferling
Oct 22, 2008

DOOT DOOT
ALL ABOARD THE ISS POLOKONZERVA
This thread could make for a nice photoshop phriday, to spruce up the front page after last year constant downer.
They were my favourite things about SA.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

hellotoothpaste posted:

I joined on patreon and to someone interested at the edge of machine learning this is the rabbit hole to fall into. OpenAI is evaluating what the machine learned and the simple fact they discovered neurons that overlapped “textual name of character/pencil sketch of character/obvious image of character” about spiderman is absolutely nuts. Not that it’s possible, but that there is a recent blog post about figuring out why is amazing.

Patreon is $5, but you’ll probably hit a wall if you’re a tech like me but don’t fully understand these collaborative python notebooks. They appear to kick rear end.

I still find it hard to believe how good it is at interpreting meaning that's not explicitly defined in the prompt. "The assassination of Jabba the Hutt by the coward Leia Organa" picked up on the fact that the movie title the prompt is based on is a western and it gave Jabba a cowboy hat. It's dark, but "Lincoln's Last Stand" literally split Lincoln's head into two distinct pieces and then stuck a mysterious figure dressed similar to John Wilkes Booth in most photographs of him in between them.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


There's a new book that asks you for additional input after every 100 iterations (when it spits out a picture).

I never got 3 to run always got an error after 30 minutes of running and not even the noise frame.

It slows it down but one of the prompts lets you draw to tell it where to focus. This is turning into a tool very rapidly where the person at the keyboard has a ton of input and guidance in the direction the art will take.

e: I think the draw command lets you add noise to an area you want to fill it in solid not circle.



yeah this is going to be really fun to play with trying to make something along a single theme and saving frames to upload and use as starting points.

tried both circling and filling, not sure it does what I think it does. Need to play around more currently taking about 15 minutes per frame so rather slow to test

after the other image I lost the frame it was pretty much the same though


image after fill

pixaal fucked around with this message at 19:04 on May 5, 2021

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

pixaal posted:

There's a new book that asks you for additional input after every 100 iterations (when it spits out a picture).

I never got 3 to run always got an error after 30 minutes of running and not even the noise frame.

It slows it down but one of the prompts lets you draw to tell it where to focus. This is turning into a tool very rapidly where the person at the keyboard has a ton of input and guidance in the direction the art will take.

e: I think the draw command lets you add noise to an area you want to fill it in solid not circle.



yeah this is going to be really fun to play with trying to make something along a single theme and saving frames to upload and use as starting points.

tried both circling and filling, not sure it does what I think it does. Need to play around more currently taking about 15 minutes per frame so rather slow to test

after the other image I lost the frame it was pretty much the same though


image after fill


It looks like it's erasing what you draw over and then reconstructing what might be in there, while leaving the other pixels untouched. So maybe do the opposite, and only draw over what you want to change?

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

I dare you to call it a perm again..

Fuschia tude posted:

It looks like it's erasing what you draw over and then reconstructing what might be in there, while leaving the other pixels untouched. So maybe do the opposite, and only draw over what you want to change?

There seems to be arithmetic involved with the neural output, I wonder if it’s ANDing or ORing with with the negative stimulus or something.

Do I need to do anything special to use these Colab notebooks on a personal account or does Google just hand out diceroll Tesla GPU time these days? Another crazy thing.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Sunset
Sleeping kittens


we do not talk about the top middle cat

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

pixaal posted:

Sunset
Sleeping kittens


we do not talk about the top middle cat

that is clearly a fetal sky bison

Ventral EggSac
Dec 3, 2019

Bula Vinaka posted:

Version 3 with just text: "A fat guy feeding a bunch of fat raccoons hot dogs"



I feel like I can see that it took inspiration from the buttcrack dude

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internet celebrity
Jun 23, 2006

College Slice

The Bloop posted:

fetal sky bison

Usernames thread is over that way 👉

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