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PhazonLink posted:is Bannon or the Mercers, stupid or what, like they got to know being within giga light years of this guy is going to fry them like a hyper nova? i mean, bannon was arrogant enough to assume he was going to be the puppet master of a whirling ball of chaos like trump, and dumb enough to think that trump would hesitate to drop bannon like a sack of bricks plus grift is grift and there's probably a limit to the actual blowback anyone adjacent to lindell will receive
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i mean, bannon was arrogant enough to assume he was going to be the puppet master of a whirling ball of chaos like trump, and dumb enough to think that trump would hesitate to drop bannon like a sack of bricks I mean he did get a pardon so he didn't completely fail as a puppetmaster. But even that's the kind of thing that should make you wonder how many second chances you're gonna get.
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OgNar posted:Lindell claims the Cyber Symposium was ruined because antifa had hooked up with CNN. What's even funnier about this is that he's now blaming the "alternative media" that actually bothered showing up to the symposium. TruNews, a conspiracy theorist, openly-fascist Christian "news" site, gave his symposium three days of fawning coverage last week. Yesterday, Lindell said that TruNews is just an antifa plant, going further and saying it's entirely a fake news site created by Media Matters. The TruNews hosts, who have been in Lindell's corner ever since he met with Trump to advocate a coup, were utterly baffled for a few minutes before going "Eh gently caress that guy, we never liked him anyway". Like I think that Lindell inherently understands the "just overwhelm everyone with bullshit" part of the right wing grift just fine, but he never got the memo that everyone's kind of in it together.
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Nice didn't know that about Trunews. I love when they turn on each other like the rabid rodents that they are. e: ha ha ha https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1427736120759103505 OgNar fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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Aug 17, 2021 23:11
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Rick Wiles angered that the leopard ate his face. e: I looked at the statement TruNews released since I was bored and lol. quote:Mr. Lindell did not stop there. He went on Brannon Howse’s video podcast and repeated the defamatory accusations. He told Mr. Howse that TruNews is a cover for Antifa, and that information was provided to him by one of his lawyers? Could that lawyer be hardcore Zionist Alan Dershowitz, the lawyer who kept Jeffrey Epstein out of prison for life? Twelve by Pies fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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Aug 17, 2021 23:24
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"PatriotTakes"
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BiggerBoat posted:"PatriotTakes" Its a hilarious Alt-Right focused watchdog.
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And in Mike Lindell 'related' news Douglas Jenson, who was part of that group the cop in the Capitol building led down the wrong passage, was let out of jail claiming “he feels deceived, recognizing that he bought into a pack of lies”. Part of his probation was not using any devices with internet access. A truly horrid punishment. But not 30 days after being let out he gets busted watching Lindells Cyber Symposium. So back to jail. Sucker quote:“Jensen’s swift violation confirms what the Government and this Court suspected all along: that Jensen’s alleged disavowal of QAnon was just an act; that his alleged epiphany inside the D.C. Jail was merely self-advocacy; and that, at the end of the day, Jensen will not abandon the misguided theories and beliefs that led him to menacingly chase U.S. Capitol Police Officer Eugene Goodman up the Senate staircase on January 6, 2021,” Assistant US Attorney Hava Mirell wrote. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/capitol-riot-defendant-internet-jail-mike-lindell
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tbf, being completely cut off from the internet is a bit of a problem in modern society. like is it truely cut off or just "dont watch that poo poo that got you in trouble"
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PhazonLink posted:tbf, being completely cut off from the internet is a bit of a problem in modern society. per the court filing, it was a complete cutoff: quote:Recognizing the corrupting and dangerous influence that conspiracy theories hold over Jensen, the Court specifically prohibited Jensen from accessing the Internet “directly or indirectly” through any devices belonging to himself or others. Id. at 26; Dkt. 30, at 3. The Court further prohibited defendant from utilizing any internet-capable devices, and required that all internet-capable devices in Jensen’s household be password-protected from Jensen. Id. The Court pronounced these special conditions orally at the July 13 bond hearing, and personally warned Jensen that his release “could be revoked and you would be detained at that point very likely until the case is completely resolved.” Exh. 1, at 30. When a court officer went to check up on him (since he was also subject to house arrest), they found him in his garage listening to "news" videos on a right-wing Youtube knockoff. After the court officer shot down a series of weak excuses, he admitted that he'd had the iPhone for two weeks and that he'd used it to watch Lindell's entire event. So not only did he violate the complete cutoff order he'd been given, but he spent that time watching the exact same poo poo he'd loudly disavowed when he was trying to convince the judge to let him out of jail.
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Main Paineframe posted:per the court filing:  Teenage me was better at hiding my porn habits from authority figures and parents than this criminal mastermind.
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Main Paineframe posted:per the court filing, it was a complete cutoff: That is kind of a harsh condition, especially given what somebody may do each day as part of their job. It feels kind of out of step with the realities of daily life now vs 15 years ago or whenever judges started imposing it. Like one time I had to go to a courthouse and found out after I had arrived that all cell phones were banned from the building per some judge's order 20 years previous. Everyone else just locked them up in their cars, but I had taken an uber and ended up leaving my bag with my cell inside at the bar of the TGI Friday across the street, promising to come back and buy two drinks and a meal once my business was done if he kept it safe for me. On the other hand, this guy tried to kill congress so I don't really mind him getting set up to fail in his particular slap on the wrist, especially since he didn't even bother trying to hide it. In cases like that, does the court monitor their internet connection or phone's network connectivity?
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:That is kind of a harsh condition, especially given what somebody may do each day as part of their job. It feels kind of out of step with the realities of daily life now vs 15 years ago or whenever judges started imposing it. Like one time I had to go to a courthouse and found out after I had arrived that all cell phones were banned from the building per some judge's order 20 years previous. Everyone else just locked them up in their cars, but I had taken an uber and ended up leaving my bag with my cell inside at the bar of the TGI Friday across the street, promising to come back and buy two drinks and a meal once my business was done if he kept it safe for me. In a case like Jan 6th, that would be a ton of monitoring. His wife was supposed to be in control/watching what he was doing but either screwed up or didnt care.
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Aug 20, 2021 23:21
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:That is kind of a harsh condition, especially given what somebody may do each day as part of their job. It feels kind of out of step with the realities of daily life now vs 15 years ago or whenever judges started imposing it. Like one time I had to go to a courthouse and found out after I had arrived that all cell phones were banned from the building per some judge's order 20 years previous. Everyone else just locked them up in their cars, but I had taken an uber and ended up leaving my bag with my cell inside at the bar of the TGI Friday across the street, promising to come back and buy two drinks and a meal once my business was done if he kept it safe for me. That's a real good point but on the other hand gently caress him.
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Him being a dumbass was literally a factor in him getting released in the first place. His claim that he was just deceived by QAnon rhetoric and didn't really understand what was going on was quite believable. https://twitter.com/JordanOnRecord/status/1428749337660694539 Of course, now that he's been caught flagrantly ignoring his release conditions and diving right back into the rabbit hole (and blaming it on his family, who were supposed to keep him in line), it's likely he's going to be heading back to jail. The government is loudly emphasizing the fact that this is one of the most difficult conditions to enforce, because they're not monitoring the internet traffic of every device in the house. The internet ban was largely based on the honor system, with his wife agreeing to lock him out of all the devices and make sure he isn't trying to get online somehow.
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i mean his isp knows EVERYTHING that they do, so if the gov really wanted to know they could. once again loling at Q infosec peeps thinking that obuummer is the highest level of secret code talking.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i mean, bannon was arrogant enough to assume he was going to be the puppet master of a whirling ball of chaos like trump, and dumb enough to think that trump would hesitate to drop bannon like a sack of bricks You also left out the part where he then tried to create a unified fascist movement in Europe (or something) and was promptly told to gently caress off because he didn't even bother to find out the differences between campaign finance laws in Europe vs. the US, thus completely undoing most of the major thrust of his idea. Steve Bannon is very dumb/arrogant. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Aug 21, 2021 |
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Aug 21, 2021 04:40
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I was slightly surprised and disappointed that Trump, vindicitive poo poo that he is, pardoned Bannon on his way out. Did anyone have any insight into that?
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Aug 21, 2021 06:26
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"If I don't get a pardon in going to spill all your dirty secrets to everyone" -Steve Bannon probably
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Yeah. Unsurprisingly given that he's a bully and a coward, Trump only honors debts when he is forced to. He doesn't pay people because capitalism is a game rigged in such a way that the consequences he faces for reneging on a contract with some builder or whatever is pretty minimal in the grand scheme of things - especially to him, personally. The consequences Trump potentially faces for failing to continue to pay off Bannon and other criminal conspirators are far more serious and personal. There is no company/business that is there to take the bullet for Trump if Bannon or whoever decides that they're going to spill the beans.
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PhazonLink posted:i mean his isp knows EVERYTHING that they do, so if the gov really wanted to know they could. Could be pretty hard even if the government was watching all traffic to/from his residence. Sounds like he has a wife and maybe other family -- differentiating his (disallowed) internet usage from theirs would be hard. And he likely has devices that access the internet automatically without human interaction (IoT devices, etc.). Depending on the court's precise order he may be allowed to, say, listen to music from Spotify via an Amazon Echo so long as he's not browsing websites. A lot of your traffic is encrypted too, so even your ISP won't know precisely what you're up to. The point is that determining if he's online via packet analysis alone would be tough even for an expert. It's unlikely the court would want to go to the trouble and expense to monitor that closely -- it might not even be possible legally if it risks analyzing the activity of persons who are not under court order / have no warrant (IANAL).
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Goalpost shuffle https://twitter.com/SciSister/status/1430185449906126848 e: Also claims new irrefutable proof is Dominion deleting data. https://www.rawstory.com/mike-lindell-dominion-injunction/ OgNar fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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still some days left in Aug for him to finally go ssj god white and get all my irl head enemies. also lol at some non crazy atom left in his brain going "Dec 25 is toooooooooooooooooo obvious, im not some fundie movie rip off hack writer"
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PhazonLink posted:still some days left in Aug for him to finally go ssj god white and get all my irl head enemies. A Trump remake of Miracle on 34th street with new ballots instead of letters to Santa, and at the end Trump finally gets to shoot someone dead, at the corner of 34th and 5th Ave
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