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Kirk and Baker are similar in that they both chug poo poo and their receivers hate their guts
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are you talking about they drink turds?
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Jan 5, 2022 21:13
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Kirk Cousins is good, a relatively reliable top 10 quarterback, and if the team moves on from him they will immediately lose more games and probably even be a bottom dweller in the division. The Vikings as a team are just as unreliable (or more) as Cousins in terms of the defense, running game, etc. Sometimes each of those things goes well, usually against crappy teams, and sometimes they totally poo poo the bed even worse than Cousins does. That's my probably terrible take but it is what it is. I am a Cousins truther
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Jan 5, 2022 22:11
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He's an above average QB. If you want to win a super bowl with an above average QB you need a loaded roster. It's hard to build a loaded roster and even more so when you're paying your QB alot.
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Jan 5, 2022 23:42
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Kirk Cousins is the modern Jake Delhomme.
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Jan 5, 2022 23:46
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Cash Monet posted:He's an above average QB. If you want to win a super bowl with an above average QB you need a loaded roster. It's hard to build a loaded roster and even more so when you're paying your QB alot. Name some teams with loaded rosters.
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Jan 6, 2022 00:10
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Kirios posted:Kirk Cousins is the modern Jake Delhomme. Jake Delhomme actually won some big games 
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I think Nick Foles and Peyton in his final year in Denver showed you can win a superbowl without a top 3 QB. The problem is you've got to have a dominant pass rush and a lot of luck. ozymandius1024 posted:Jake Delhomme actually won some big games Everyone loving loved Delhomme though. I don't think Kirk inspires much emotion unless he fixes you with that weird stare then you're probably not sure if he wants to gently caress you or wear your skin.
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Jan 6, 2022 00:21
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Name some teams with loaded rosters. You didn't ask me but I would posit (taking away the QB) Saints, Bills, Cowboys, 49ers (when healthy), Steelers, and Chiefs (with some notable missing talent in certain areas there).
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Jan 6, 2022 00:23
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BlindSite posted:I think Nick Foles and Peyton in his final year in Denver showed you can win a superbowl without a top 3 QB. The problem is you've got to have a dominant pass rush and a lot of luck. Flacco was never a top 3 QB. Wilson wasn’t in the year he won the super bowl. Eli was probably never a top 3 QB either.
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Jan 6, 2022 00:27
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Flacco was never a top 3 QB. Wilson wasn’t in the year he won the super bowl. Eli was probably never a top 3 QB either. Yeah they're all also excellent points. Wilson is arguably the best of that bunch and he wasn't amazing that year.
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Jan 6, 2022 00:37
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BlindSite posted:Yeah they're all also excellent points. Wilson is arguably the best of that bunch and he wasn't amazing that year. 3400 yards, 26 TDs and 9 ints. He made some plays with his legs which elevates his performance, but it’s was a very Cousinsish season.
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Jan 6, 2022 00:45
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flacco's team got him into the playoffs but he was the main reason they went past the divisional round and won the sb. there's a lot of nuance in our lil sport
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Jan 6, 2022 00:49
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Kirios posted:We love dunking on Kirk Cousins, and he deserves a lot of it, but he's a much better quarterback than Baker Mayfield. I can't believe I'm saying this, but that's not fair to ol' Kirk. eh Kirios posted:Kirk Cousins is the modern Jake Delhomme.
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Jan 6, 2022 03:08
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Cavauro posted:flacco's team got him into the playoffs but he was the main reason they went past the divisional round and won the sb. there's a lot of nuance in our lil sport I guess the key is to be JUST good enough at EXACTLY the right time, huh
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Play posted:I guess the key is to be JUST good enough at EXACTLY the right time, huh Pretty much. Flacco was immaculate in the playoff run. Foles was really good when he needed to be. Eli was much better in both 2007 and 2011 than he’d been in the regular season, especially at limiting turnovers. Meanwhile guys like Brees and Rodgers only have one super bowl appearance a piece because it’s extremely hard to get there even with a top 3 QB and Tom Brady has basically broken peoples brains and made them believe that if you don’t have the chosen one playing QB you’ll never win a Super Bowl.
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Jan 6, 2022 03:26
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Play posted:Kirk Cousins is good, a relatively reliable top 10 quarterback, and if the team moves on from him they will immediately lose more games and probably even be a bottom dweller in the division. This is a few years old, but Kirk Cousins cannot beat good teams https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/aba0g5/qb_records_against_winning_teams_a_comparison_of/ Marcus Mariota has more wins against winning teams than Kirk
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Jan 6, 2022 03:36
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:This is a few years old, but Kirk Cousins cannot beat good teams He beat Green Bay this year so evidently he can. Stafford was 8-67 against winning teams prior to this year. Jimmy Garappolo, on the other hand, had a 9-6 against winning teams at the start of 2021. Clearly elite and the Rams picked the wrong guy to trade two first round picks for.
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Jan 6, 2022 04:05
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I'm content with the fact that Kirk Cousins will never amount to anything
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Jan 6, 2022 05:58
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can someone please post a photoshopped image of Kirk cousins with a big rear end
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Kirk Cousins for Baker Mayfield kind of feels like a thing that could happen.
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Jan 7, 2022 00:13
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Kirk Cousins has less playoff wins than Blake Bortles.
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Jan 7, 2022 00:32
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Mega64 posted:Kirk Cousins has less playoff wins than Blake Bortles. I feel like that applies to the majority of starting QBs in the nfl right now BlindSite posted:Kirk Cousins for Baker Mayfield kind of feels like a thing that could happen. Only if the Vikings really need to clear some cap or are just sick of Kirk's poo poo (couldn't blame them for that)
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Jan 7, 2022 01:03
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Mega64 posted:Kirk Cousins has less playoff wins than Blake Bortles. And only a quarter of the playoff wins that Mark Sanchez has, but at least Cousins as the same amount as Tim Tebow.
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Jan 7, 2022 01:16
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Play posted:I feel like that applies to the majority of starting QBs in the nfl right now Rumour is with their defensive woes they want to clear cap. He's also heading into the final year of his deal and he wants a raise. Stefanski was also his oc his first 2 years in minn.
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BlindSite posted:Kirk Cousins for Baker Mayfield kind of feels like a thing that could happen. Play posted:I feel like that applies to the majority of starting QBs in the nfl right now BlindSite posted:Stefanski was also his oc his first 2 years in minn. Y'all need to stop with this evil-rear end poo poo. No. NO. Please god let not this heresy be.
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Mr. Carrier Pigeon posted:Y'all need to stop with this evil-rear end poo poo. No. NO. Please god let not this heresy be. The browns love analytical moves too and theyre for sure going to look at his regular season numbers and expect them to continue. They'll look at his record against playoff teams and assume... he's due to come good.
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Is cousins even remotely tradeable? Like, I get his contract is an albatross, but if the Vikings ate like 100% of the salary, could they get a 1st round pick for him?
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DoctaFun posted:Is cousins even remotely tradeable? Most the trades for QBs with big salaries usually result in some kind of restructure so the team trading for them doesn't eat the entire hit. Cousins I believe is in the vicinity of 30ish mil for a cap hit, but like the Panthers did with Bridgewater you can convert a big chunk of it to eat some of the cap for the team they're being traded to. You would think if he got traded the Vikings would probably do something similar and take the hit for 10 mill with whatever team taking him giving him an extension and spreading more of that hit out. The Giants for instance who have the need and the picks to get a deal done couldn't fit him in their cap at the moment so some kind of fuckery would have to take place, same for the Panthers.
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If the Vikings ate his entire cap hit he would definitely, definitely be worth a first rounder if not that and more Not sure if there's a team where that concept really fits that well right now though
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Play posted:If the Vikings ate his entire cap hit he would definitely, definitely be worth a first rounder if not that and more I'm not sure it's possible for them to eat his entire hit. IIRC its basically a restructure to make it a roster bonus at whatever tomorrow date is and then the day after you'll be traded to team X. But the Vikings entire reason for trading him would be to get as much of his salary off the books as possible and while 10mill looks better than 30 I don't think there's a way the vikes agree to take the whole hit. I think a more likely scenario would be someone getting a cheaper price for him and taking the full hit. There would be a few candidates who can fit 30 mill and would be in need though Washington (lol) Pittsburgh Denver Seattle Cleveland Again - they'd also likely sign him for another 2 years or so and convert some to bonus to pro rate the hit, but even if they planned on a one year rental and drafted someone Pitt, Cleveland, Denver and Seattle could all take the hit.
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