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Angepain posted:"replying to @N£tflix" also of course the twitter user posting criticisms of the person's work also happens to be a nonce subtle, joanne
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Communist Thoughts posted:
Finally, we can all stop posting.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Finally, we can all stop posting. Please do.
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Necrothatcher posted:
Needs more Chaos. Ed Milliband as Horus Lupercal.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Finally, we can all stop posting. https://twitter.com/Lubchansky/status/1536347154352054273
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I feel like the issue keeps being that there isn't really a good way to monetize art. People should be able to do it but I don't think that doing it for money really works very well most of the time, as it means most artists get gently caress all, and it also puts the personal development side of art (cool, good, should be available to as many people as possible) directly at odds with the making a living side of it because the more people who can do it the more the price of that labour goes down. And as tech like this gets better it's gonna shave off the things you need an actual artist for. I don't think you can put that back in the box, nor really do I think you should? Because it is bringing something to people who otherwise wouldn't have access to it. Another important argument for luxury communism IMO. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Aug 31, 2022 |
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OwlFancier posted:I feel like the issue keeps being that there isn't really a good way to monetize art. People should be able to do it but I don't think that doing it for money really works very well most of the time, as it means most artists get gently caress all, and it also puts the personal development side of art (cool, good, should be available to as many people as possible) directly at odds with the making a living side of it because the more people who can do it the more the price of that labour goes down. Yeah, I would love UBI cuz it would allow me to keep learning to do painting and try some new kinds and such. I mean I would like to make money doing it (maybe pet portraits, I dunno) but I'm wary of making it a job because it might make me hate it.
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If I build another house I will save money on architects fees by prompting one of these AIs with the local planning records and asking it to draw the plans. Can't go any worse.
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Apraxin posted:mystery solved, i guess This otoh slaps.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:If I build another house I will save money on architects fees by prompting one of these AIs with the local planning records and asking it to draw the plans. Can't go any worse. code:   Comes with it's own flag apparently
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can't wait for an AI to draw up an electrical installation so that I can finally be free of my corpulent body by vaporising it in an arc flash trying to build it to spec
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OwlFancier posted:I feel like the issue keeps being that there isn't really a good way to monetize art. People should be able to do it but I don't think that doing it for money really works very well most of the time, as it means most artists get gently caress all, and it also puts the personal development side of art (cool, good, should be available to as many people as possible) directly at odds with the making a living side of it because the more people who can do it the more the price of that labour goes down. Cory Doctorow talks about this in one of his books - there's not enough money in the system for everyone who's good at art to make a living off art, so he basically proposes a Patreon-like system before Patreon was a thing (I think) as being better than throwing people in jail for not giving the giant corporation money. Not sure if he connects the dots all the way to luxury communism though.
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This owns, thanks Also this that bottom left one 
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I mean that's the other problem is that patronage is sort of necessarily in the realm of the wealthy, the best artists can command prices that most people can't afford, and still get to dictate what work gets produced. I feel like we already have the solution for things like that where it's funded through taxation and is considered a societal good.
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*points at art*kecske posted:can't wait for an AI to draw up an electrical installation so that I can finally be free of my corpulent body by vaporising it in an arc flash trying to build it to spec       
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A study into early detection of dementia used Iris Murdoch's novels (among others) as an example. Apparently her writing became progressively more repetative - as in, her vocabulary shrank, not that she recycled plot - before she was diagnosed. She wasn't the only author in the study but she was the one the press focussed on. Here it is: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2004/dec/iris-murdochs-last-novel-reveals-first-signs-alzheimers-disease This could genuinely be a movie poster.
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WhatEvil posted:There are already cases of companies replacing their Lead Artists, looking for better results.... Obviously you just buy better AI prompts! https://promptbase.com/ https://twitter.com/kevin2kelly/status/1562562459281420289 Yes an actual startup, I didn't believe it either. Necrothatcher, get paid while the going is good 
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paying people to talk to the AI is how you get high programmers.
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UC Berkeley is also how you get high programmersLady Demelza posted:This could genuinely be a movie poster. PentecostEd
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Obviously you just buy better AI prompts! Starting my own startup, ai prompt trolling
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Can we see what the AI does with "x British politician in the style of anime" 
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Dalle-2 Produced these from the simple 'Chaos with Ed Milliband' prompt   
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Obviously you just buy better AI prompts! the prompt artist is also an AI e: lol 
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HopperUK posted:Yeah, as a budding visual artist I just kinda try not to fret about it too much. I figure at worst there'll end up being a market for 'actually, someone *hand-drew* this' like already kinda exists for traditional art Art and culture stagnate, and an AI eventually produces a book called 'The end of Fukuyama and the last man (or how i learned to stop worrying and love the chairs)."
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Which is another reason to fund art generally because it is all fuel for the AI. Although I dunno, the idea of an AI evolving the Ideal Art to tittilate the human brain is also kind of funny. Until it evolves The Parrot.
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Apraxin posted:mystery solved, i guess This can't be real can it? Stephen King is too big for an editor, but seems a decent bloke these days. Even GRRM is a bit pervy and not really a writer anymore but he's not an active dickhead. Twitter should have been strangled at birth. Billions in the bank, you could do anything you want, and she spends her time being a knob on the internet.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:It's going to lead to a situation where the AI is no longer being inspired by real artists (as it fails to distinguish the AI art flooding the market), and all media consumption - scriptwriting, music, novels - will be produced by AI based on what other AI say is best.
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OwlFancier posted:Which is another reason to fund art generally because it is all fuel for the AI. 
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As I mentioned, I’m in Cuba right now, and my (very lovely) tour guide has told me that he read The Secret, got really into self-help gurus, wants to be an entrepreneur, and is now talking about passive income. It really gives me an insight into how after the collapse of the Soviet Union so many Russians immediately lost all their money in pyramid schemes.
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It is strange to imagine capitalism as a predatory animal that we have all adapted defence mechanisms against but I suppose it is accurate, and raises the even more interesting thought of what the human that isn't venomous, burrowing, and covered in spikes looks like.
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Apraxin posted:mystery solved, i guess
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OwlFancier posted:It is strange to imagine capitalism as a predatory animal that we have all adapted defence mechanisms against but I suppose it is accurate, and raises the even more interesting thought of what the human that isn't venomous, burrowing, and covered in spikes looks like.
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New Thread Up in the wonderful and ongoing story of this island founded by fishmen fighting Popeye.
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