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sirtommygunn posted:He is but he missed 2 full seasons (opted out of covid year, injured the next) and sucks now. Mosley isn’t bad. He’s overpaid because paying an inside linebacker $18m per is pretty dumb but he does his job well and he’s the leader of a top 5 defense in the league.
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kiimo posted:Hi friends. Burrow is a fraud, apologies to the Dak Stan from earlier this season burrow's incredible, he's just shackled to an idiot coach and an o-line who've all got money on how quickly they can get burrow killed
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 07:14 |
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Burrow's line is bad but he legit looks bad in the pocket so that's not helping.
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 07:30 |
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Burrow should come to San Francisco because I'm sure we can fit him in as a "running back".
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 07:41 |
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a neat cape posted:Burrow's line is bad but he legit looks bad in the pocket so that's not helping. that's nonsense, he routinely looks great in the pocket. he definitely has some bad games though, typically the ones where his o-line is absolutely entirely overmatched and the offensive playcalling is garbage on top of it. when that happens he both gets antsy and feels like he needs to play hero ball which for him means holding the ball too drat long if his teams o-line coach weren't terrible at his job or if the bengals offensive coaching staff were capable of being the calm adults for their young qb in those moments and help him out with better playcalling i suspect you'd see less of those bad habits pop up. but ya'll love to watch the bengals bad games and declare him a bad qb even though he's 3rd in passing TDs this year behind only Mahomes and Allen, is 1st in passing yards, and is hovering around a 70% completion percentage. the kid's incredible.
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 07:52 |
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Who said he was bad
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 08:03 |
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So which is it? He good in the pocket or bad? I haven’t watched many bengals games this season, just 2. And one of them gave me ptsd from watching my Hawaiian roll get hurt
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 11:17 |
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AndrewP posted:he's been better this year and generally has his moments, but overall not a great first round pick He seems more like an overperforming low or undrafted player rather than a first rounder. I wonder if we are in fact going to try to resign Roquan, and just kind of see him as a replacement for Queen who didn't pan out. Cause aside from Lamar most of our draft picks these last few years aren't going to be getting big second contracts. Hollywood traded, Queen no, Oweh eh, Bateman who knows if he can ever get over his injuries, been hurt half the time he's been here. Current two are just rookies. So Lamar might be expensive but so far none of these other guys are really big second contract types. Really a shame because if like one or two of these guys had been big hits this team would be in a much better spot. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Nov 1, 2022 |
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Take away Chase and Burrow becomes Tyler Palko
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 11:51 |
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Hyperbole aside I do think Chase makes that offense go as it is right now. Burrow is good, but he's not making Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd look great without some help. I mean, Myles Garrett also exists and he and his buddies probably had some impact last night.
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 12:07 |
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If the Ravens win the Super Bowl this thread title should be re-used for the post season
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 12:47 |
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Amy Pole Her posted:So which is it? He good in the pocket or bad? I haven’t watched many bengals games this season, just 2. And one of them gave me ptsd from watching my Hawaiian roll get hurt Burrow was pretty lousy in that game until the 4th quarter and then he was good so probably both?
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 12:58 |
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syzpid posted:If the Ravens win the Super Bowl this thread title should be re-used for the post season Announcer : The Ravens did not win the Super Bowl.
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 13:23 |
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TheBizzness posted:Burrow was pretty lousy in that game until the 4th quarter and then he was good so probably both? That one specific game maybe, but I believe all parties were saying overall. I mayyybe wrong
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 14:26 |
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Grittybeard posted:Hyperbole aside I do think Chase makes that offense go as it is right now. Burrow is good, but he's not making Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd look great without some help. Tee and Tyler are very good receivers but they don't get instant separation. Joe would be fine with a 3+ second pocket and no Chase, the problem is when he's gone and Joe still is obligated to get rid of the ball in two seconds. The biggest bad habit I've noticed from him this year is that he seems to be too willing to surrender the middle of the field.
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 14:29 |
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WalletBeef posted:Announcer : The Ravens did not win the Super Bowl. This team has the pieces to go on a run. Esp with Roquan. Whether theyll actually do it though...
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 14:30 |
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Amy Pole Her posted:That one specific game maybe, but I believe all parties were saying overall. I mayyybe wrong You’re definitely right but only Dolphins games matter.
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 17:53 |
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Amy Pole Her posted:That one specific game maybe, but I believe all parties were saying overall. I mayyybe wrong The Bengals and Chargers OLs are giving up about the same pressure rate and Burrow has eaten three times as many sacks as Herbert. Maybe I just don't know football but that would lead me to believe Burrow either holds onto the ball too long or has bad pocket presence
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 17:56 |
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a neat cape posted:The Bengals and Chargers OLs are giving up about the same pressure rate and Burrow has eaten three times as many sacks as Herbert. Maybe I just don't know football but that would lead me to believe Burrow either holds onto the ball too long or has bad pocket presence he holds the ball too long. its his version of hero ball, he'll just hold it loving forever if they're having a lovely day on offense to try and make something happen. hopefully he gets out of this dumb habit next year bc its his biggest flaw. his pocket presence is fine, its actually pretty good bc he slides around in the pocket well and you can see that he feels the pressure he just loving refuses to give up on the play sometimes
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 18:00 |
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Relentlessboredomm posted:he holds the ball too long. its his version of hero ball, he'll just hold it loving forever if they're having a lovely day on offense to try and make something happen. hopefully he gets out of this dumb habit next year bc its his biggest flaw. his pocket presence is fine, its actually pretty good bc he slides around in the pocket well and you can see that he feels the pressure he just loving refuses to give up on the play sometimes That might be the case then. It's no dig on Burrow, I'm just salty because Herbert is throwing to practice squad receivers with just as bad an OL and with his ribs falling off and gets way more scrutiny than Burrow when he looks bad because one of his all pro WRs is out. Tldr I'm petty and mad.
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 18:09 |
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a neat cape posted:That might be the case then. It's no dig on Burrow, I'm just salty because Herbert is throwing to practice squad receivers with just as bad an OL and with his ribs falling off and gets way more scrutiny than Burrow when he looks bad because one of his all pro WRs is out. yea i get that. my honest assessment is they both need better coaches bc they're being woefully underutilized for their skillsets. like yea Burrow still has his flaws as does Herbert but the biggest issue is they get put into dumbass situations by their coaches. hopefully herbert gets to work with Payton next year.
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 18:18 |
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a neat cape posted:That might be the case then. It's no dig on Burrow, I'm just salty because Herbert is throwing to practice squad receivers with just as bad an OL and with his ribs falling off and gets way more scrutiny than Burrow when he looks bad because one of his all pro WRs is out. I don’t think the Chargers OL is as bad as the Bengals. Herbert is better at getting the ball out though. Some of that is down the WCO that Lombardi is running which obviously has its drawbacks as well. Burrow is good but he has his issues just like every young QB.
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 18:55 |
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I hope either the chargers or bengals get payton, they'd both be electrifying teams with him running their offenses
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 19:04 |
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really queer Christmas posted:I hope either the chargers or bengals get payton, they'd both be electrifying teams with him running their offenses Same, and both QBs deserve to be saved from their current coaches.
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 19:38 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I don’t think the Chargers OL is as bad as the Bengals. Herbert is better at getting the ball out though. Some of that is down the WCO that Lombardi is running which obviously has its drawbacks as well. I think the Chargers OL has better individual pieces, but they're giving up about a 14% pressure rate while Cinci is at about 16%
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# ? Nov 1, 2022 19:44 |
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It is very frustrating that Jonah Williams is playing below what he did the prior year, because the interior OL is better.
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 02:47 |
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dont talk about joe burrow
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# ? Nov 3, 2022 03:00 |
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a neat cape posted:That might be the case then. It's no dig on Burrow, I'm just salty because Herbert is throwing to practice squad receivers with just as bad an OL and with his ribs falling off and gets way more scrutiny than Burrow when he looks bad because one of his all pro WRs is out. Every article I’ve seen all year has Herbie ranked above Burrow. Chill brother
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a neat cape posted:That might be the case then. It's no dig on Burrow, I'm just salty because Herbert is throwing to practice squad receivers with just as bad an OL and with his ribs falling off and gets way more scrutiny than Burrow when he looks bad because one of his all pro WRs is out. Imagine how it felt watching all that AND having your head coach actively work against him? He will rise like the Phoenix
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