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LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
Bests

Coolest Fighter of the Year

Fight of the Year


ONE on Prime Video 6 - Stamp Fairtex vs Supergirl Anna Jaroonsak

ONE one Prime Video 6 - Superlek Kiatmoo9 vs Daniel Puertas

ONE Friday Fights 1 - Muangthai PK Saenchai vs Mavlud Tupiev

Krush 145 - Hisaki Higashimoto vs Shu Inagaki

Enfusion 118 - Ilias Zouggary vs Darryl Verdonk

UFC 284 - Islam Makhachev vs Alexander Volkanovski

ONE Friday Fights 5 - Kongklai Annymuaythai vs Superball Tded99

BKFC KnuckleMania 3 - Anthony Sanchez vs Derek Perez

Event of the Year

KO of the Year


LFA 150 - Ganbat Bayasgalan vs Adamu Isah (Punch)

Shooto 2023 Opening Round - Shoji Sato vs Yauyuki Nojiri (Punch)

UFC 283 - Ismael Bonfim vs Terence McKinney (Flying knee)

UFC 283 - Bruno Ferreira vs Gregory Rodrigues (Punch)

BKFC KnuckleMania 3 - Lorenzo Hunt vs Mike Richman (Punch)

ONE on Prime 7 - Tawanchai PK Saenchai vs Jamal Yusupov (Leg kick)

PFL 2023 #2 - Amber Leibrock vs Martina Jindrova (Head kick)

UFC Vettori vs Cannonier - Manuel Torres vs Nikolas Motta (Standing elbow)

Sub of the Year

UFC 283 - Gabriel Bonfim vs Mounir Lazzez (Mounted guillotine)

UFC 285 - Alexa Grasso vs Valentina Shevchenko (Rear naked choke)

Coolest Moment of the Year

ONE on Prime Video 6 - Chingiz Allazov vs Superbon (Performance)

ONE Friday Fights 5 - Kongklai Annymuaythai vs Superball Tded99 (Round 2)

BKFC KnuckleMania 3 - Lorenzo Hunt vs Mike Richman (Round 1)

One Fight Night 7: Lineker vs. Andrade 2. Lineker’s corner takes care of their fighter and calls off the fight after the fourth round. Linekers face was battered and it looked like he couldn’t see out of his right eye.

UFC 285 - Alexa Grasso submits Valentina Shevchenko (Upset of the Year)

UFC 290 - Dan Hooker vs Jalin Turner (Round 2 - Round of the Year)

Hype of the Year

Comedic Moment


UFC 284 - In one of the sloppiest fights of recent memory Alonzo Mennefield, clearly having multiple opportunities to KO Jimmy Crute in the 1st and 2nd, commits a foul (fence grab) losing 1 point as a result, which then caused the fight to be ruled a Majority Draw.

ONE Friday Fights 2 - Harry Grech vs Arash Mardani. Grech disqualified for timidity.

BKFC 35 - Tomar Washington vs Willie Sears - Tomar Washington celebrates as they announce he was DQed

Worsts

Bureaucratic Malfeasance

UFC 283 - Nobody seems willing to stop Jessica Andrade's battering of Lauren Murphy

Bellator 292 - Jason Herzog calling a kick to the groin "incidental" because the strike hit the body first - Shabily vs Musayev

LobsterMobster fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Jul 9, 2023

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LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
I realize part of the problem is lower thread/forum engagement overall, but the number of ballots submitted for the year end awards is low, and often, only partial ballots are submitted.

1. What is the best way to take in ballots?
- Google form with short answer options
- Google form with multiple choice options
- Text ballot emailed to a dummy account
- Other

2. The sheer amount of categories is pretty big and unwieldy. We should probably trim things down
- What categories should we keep entirely
- What categories should be combined
- What categories should be fully removed

3. Other stuff!
- why we get not many votes??? how get more votes???

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

LobsterMobster posted:

I realize part of the problem is lower thread/forum engagement overall, but the number of ballots submitted for the year end awards is low, and often, only partial ballots are submitted.

1. What is the best way to take in ballots?
- Google form with short answer options
- Google form with multiple choice options
- Text ballot emailed to a dummy account
- Other

2. The sheer amount of categories is pretty big and unwieldy. We should probably trim things down
- What categories should we keep entirely
- What categories should be combined
- What categories should be fully removed

3. Other stuff!
- why we get not many votes??? how get more votes???

1. I like the short form method. Partly because I enjoy being a dumb hipster and putting too obscure poo poo in, so being limited by a multiple choice with only the top 3 - 5 options is lame. Though I can see people wanting a curated list

2. Fighter of the Year, Favorite Fighter, Fight of the Year, KO, Sub should all stick around as separate things, imo

Stuff like Most Improved, Breakthrough, even Performance of the Year could maybe be smushed into one?

The Worst Fight/Event can probably get fully chucked. Same with Social Media Presence, since nobody seems to care.

Comedy/Schadenfreude could combine. Insult/Hype/Trash talk either combine or chuck, since again, it's rare years when we get a good crop of stuff

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
Less categories and make them multiple choice (3-4 choices each?) with an option for a "write in"

I think I clicked this year's ballot, and just got intimidated by how much time I was going to have to spend filling it out. Each category I have to enter three things, so it feels like if there are 20 categories, I'm filling out 60 things.

Fighter of the year
KO of the year
Sub of the year
Fight of the year
Card of the year

maybe one more... worst fight/event/ref of the year?

e: If you don;t like multiple choice, list the top 3 curated choices on the form, so I don't have to switch back and forth between tabs, and I can just copy and paste.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca
I only filled in one option in most of the top 3 anyway, so I'm fine leaving it as-is and telling people they only have to do 0-3 in any category. If that voting page had 60 spots I probably only filled in about 20-30 and I was happy with that.

I'm trying to put only thread-nomination-worthy stuff in my spreadsheet this year, so the categories I'm tracking for myself are KO, sub, fight, and performance, most likely. I guess if I remember to mark rounds specifically.

For the lesser categories, I have poo poo recall but if people (including myself) remember to put stuff like bad refereeing and comedy in the thread, it's very easy for me to vote off the list and that's what I did for many of these.

My philosophy is kinda "during that 4 week down period as the year turns over, which 2023 stuff would I actually enjoy rewatching to fill that time?"

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca
Also, I'm going to drop noms for kickboxing and Muay Thai (and I guess bare knuckle since I watch all of those too) in this thread, even if they don't get gathered up at the end of the year. That's just so that people can bookmark this thread and find cool stuff to check out even if they don't want to keep up with the monthly and GDTs.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Which categories in 2022 had the lowest response rates? That's where I'd start looking.

I know that like social media trash talk and best show I just go like "idfk", many of the "worst" categories I dislike outside of the bad officiating shame.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
in terms of first place vote responses:

Worst Major Show - 6
Judging Incompetence - 6
Best Post-Fight Interview - 4
Best Insult/Trash Talk - 2
Social Media Presence - 5

I think Ref/Judging/Booking could be combined into a catch all Bureaucratic Malfeasance award?

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


LobsterMobster posted:

in terms of first place vote responses:

Worst Major Show - 6
Judging Incompetence - 6
Best Post-Fight Interview - 4
Best Insult/Trash Talk - 2
Social Media Presence - 5

I think Ref/Judging/Booking could be combined into a catch all Bureaucratic Malfeasance award?

Agreed, and Interview/Insult/Trash talk can probably be combined into a catch all "Best Hype"

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Another idea I just had is that we could try to periodically have discussions throughout the year aimed toward creating a short list out of the existing nominations which can make things easier to review at the year's end. These can just happen whenever someone feels like starting the conversation - "ok it's April and we have 8 nominations for knockout of the year. Out of these I think these 5 are cool but probably won't win so lets highlight the 2 best ones and here are some gifs of them // well this one that you don't like is pretty rad and i found a gif // ok we'll keep it for now but lets try to limit it to 10 at year's end".

Being on the "short list" could simply be bolding it in the post and adding a link - that alone could take a lot of the hassle out of choosing winners.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
I like that idea to curate nominations

I meant to rewatch and write up the Fight of the Year nominees around July as a halfway point check in, but I am nothing if not a lazy liar that says things and then doe not do them

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
sorry, been lazy

here's the rough idea of the "new" awards

let me know if there's something you desperately want added as a category

also, nominate stuff!

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


FOTY Volk vs Mak like there it is. Starting off hot.

Here's the pitch someone made in the GDT: you might see a crazier fight this year, but you won't see a higher level one.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Comedic Moment of the Year (suggesting this to replace/blend in Schaudenfreude and Comedy in MMA into one thing)

In one of the sloppiest fights of recent memory Alonzo Mennefield, clearly having multiple opportunities to KO Jimmy Crute in the 1st and 2nd, commits a foul (fence grab) losing 1 point as a result, which then caused the fight to be ruled a Majority Draw.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca
Here's what I have on my spreadsheet, to date:

MMA:

Adamu Isah vs. Ganbat Bayasgalan - LFA 150 - KO - https://twitter.com/Grabaka_Hitman/status/1614067194664550401
Yasuyuki Nojiri vs. Shoji Sato - Shooto 2023 Opening Round - KO - https://twitter.com/jaaamon/status/1614581683877195776
Ismael Bonfim vs. Terence McKinney - UFC 283 - KO - https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1616949891464597505
Gabriel Bonfim vs. Mounir Lazzez - UFC 283 - Submission - https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1616969709592915968
Gregory Rodrigues vs. Bruno Ferreira - UFC 283 - KO - https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1616984139122769920
Harry Grech vs. Arash Mardani - ONE Friday Fights 2 - Comedy (Grech disqualified for timidity) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3HOW91IucQ&t=4173s (1:09:33)
Yair Rodriguez vs. Josh Emmett - UFC 284 - Fight

Kickboxing / Muay Thai:

Stamp Fairtex vs. Anna Jaroonsak - ONE Fight Night 6 - Fight - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTBAv1BEgr8
Superlek Kiatmoo9 vs. Daniel Puertas - ONE Fight Night 6 - Fight - https://www.vidio.com/watch/7344600-superlek-kiatmoo9-vs-daniel-puertas-one-championship-full-fight
Superbon vs. Chingiz Allazov - ONE Fight Night 6 - Performance (Chingiz Allazov) - https://www.vidio.com/watch/7344596-chingiz-allazov-vs-superbon-one-championship-full-fight
Muangthai PK.Saenchai vs. Mavlud Tupiev - ONE Friday Fights 1 - Fight - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg3NG0_gmQ0
Hisaki Higashimoto vs. Shu Inagaki - Krush.145 - Fight - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGyJIebCXo
Ilias Zouggary vs. Darryl Verdonk - Enfusion 118 - Fight - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpqaTDgUvgo
Kongklai Annymuaythai vs. Superball Tded99 - ONE Friday Fights 5 - Round (2), Fight - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIu39nHxP0o&t=12596s (3:29:56)

Bare Knuckle:

Tomar Washington vs. Willie Sears - BKFC 35 - Comedy (Tomar Washington celebrates as they announce he was DQed) - https://twitter.com/Boco_T/status/1619158340206227457
Anthony Sanchez vs. Derek Perez - BKFC Knuckle Mania 3 - Fight - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teKc5j6rHtg&t=4311s (1:11:51)
Lorenzo Hunt vs. Mike Richman - BKFC Knuckle Mania 3 - Round (1), KO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPgDNJF0w9c

Boco_T fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Feb 25, 2023

cornlog
May 1, 2008
Rare good corner judgement in mma. One Fight Night 7: Lineker vs. Andrade 2. Lineker’s corner takes care of their fighter and calls off the fight after the fourth round. Linekers face was battered and it looked like he couldn’t see out of his right eye.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Upset of the year (do we still do that? If not, then coolest moment) and Submission of the Year

UFC 285 Alexa Grasso sub Valentina Shevchenko

By the way I want to stop for a moment and as a grappling nerd draw attention to the quality of Grasso's finish there - it wasn't "just an rnc" after a cool back take - it was a picture perfect chin-in RNC/chinlock and you can see her adjusting the technical details progressively as she gets the finish by altering the relative placement of her hands and head and by doing a crunch and twist finish, and by maintaining control through a grip fight. This might not seem like a big deal but elite fighters screw up these details and miss out on finishes all the time, and I know this because I'm obsessed with this particular version of the RNC within my own grappling and I watch for it.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


We should start thinking about a quarterly review of nominations here for the end of April

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CommonShore posted:

We should start thinking about a quarterly review of nominations here for the end of April

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


I meant end of March but ya

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
nominated the sicknasty head kick ko at PFL

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
bump to nominate Torres's elbow of death KO

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Round of the Year: Round 2 of Dan Hooker vs. Jalin Turner: UFC 290 July 8

Crazy round: Hooker eating a killer kick and not only staying standing but proceeding to put a battering on Turner and getting him into a choke only for the bell to sound when Turner was CLEARLY finished was like something out of a movie.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Wow no nominations since July.

https://dubz.cc/c/91238b

Foul of the year.

Referee/Official? incompetence to that doctor too. The ref himself handled it well, kinda. He didn't handle it actively badly though.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
Awards thread is here

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4051061

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CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Knockout of the Year
UFC 296 Josh Emmett ko Bryce Mitchell
Bellator 295 Patchy Mix ko Raufeon Stots


sub of the year
Fight Night Holm v Bueno Silva - Mayra Bueno Silva ninja choke


Tapology has lists to help jog your memory. Their actual rankings are stupid though so don't allow the tops of the lists to bias you.

https://www.tapology.com/rankings/5061-2023-greatest-mma-submissions

https://www.tapology.com/rankings/5060-2023-greatest-mma-knockouts

https://www.tapology.com/rankings/5059-2023-mma-fights-of-the-year

https://www.tapology.com/rankings/5058-2023-mma-fighter-of-the-year (especially stupid)



It was cool when Ed Herman and Zac Cummings retired at the same time and then funny later when Guida faked out on that.

CommonShore fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Jan 5, 2024

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