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RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

repiv posted:

banning unsupervised AI streams in general would probably be prudent, even before the boob incident it's already caused trouble when people were running LLM-driven seinfeld or family guy bots and getting banned when the computer made a transphobic joke or bomb threat or whatever

the latest issue isn't with unsupervised ai
it was people using the new "artistic nudity" rules to stream themselves generating photorealistic(ish) ai generated softcore porno
it was very supervised. and the supervisor was saying "naked lady with huge tits please"

supposedly that specific issue was what caused twitch to walk back the new rule.

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HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Hello thread. There are a lot of reports coming out and I'd like to ask people to chill out a bit please. No need to get so aggro with each other. Cheers.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

HopperUK posted:

Hello thread. There are a lot of reports coming out and I'd like to ask people to chill out a bit please. No need to get so aggro with each other. Cheers.
:gas:

Kagaya Homoraisan
Aug 28, 2019

You say, run away
Instead, you get scared
For the way that I feel
Drops out into all this disorder

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

HopperUK posted:

Hello thread. There are a lot of reports coming out and I'd like to ask people to chill out a bit please. No need to get so aggro with each other. Cheers.

Post the reports because I’m sure they are fuckin hilarious

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

MarcusSA posted:

Post the reports because I’m sure they are fuckin hilarious

Not really. If I ever see a really funny one I'll put it in the feedback thread.

Chillmatic
Jul 25, 2003

always seeking to survive and flourish
gas

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

just wait for embracer to nuke another studio and we can loop back to that

shouldn't take long

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Would it have been better if it were just a talented artist making photo-realistic images of nudity by hand? It seems like whether it’s AI or not isn’t really the important issue.

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


https://twitter.com/jakesucky/status/1735740758018457959

Extremely toxic player Mason just got banned in DotA 2 by opening a seasonal gift box containing a lump of coal. As the tweet says, I've never seen or heard of a ban handled like this.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

he also made a giant weepy thread on reddit about how he has No Idea Why His Behavior Score was so low and then people instantly posted twitch clips of him screaming at the top of his lungs over mic at his teammates

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Endorph posted:

he also made a giant weepy thread on reddit about how he has No Idea Why His Behavior Score was so low and then people instantly posted twitch clips of him screaming at the top of his lungs over mic at his teammates

He admitted to have people play his account for him, specifically so he would have games on his record without him screaming and raging out lol.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Even companies beat it and delete it...

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Kith posted:

https://twitter.com/jakesucky/status/1735740758018457959

Extremely toxic player Mason just got banned in DotA 2 by opening a seasonal gift box containing a lump of coal. As the tweet says, I've never seen or heard of a ban handled like this.
They also sent out less-toxic coal lumps to players who had been using alt accounts to dunk on lower-skilled players, with a message attached basically saying "we know what you're doing, stop it or we'll ban you". Sorta like the "Cheater's Lament" thing item in the Team Fortress 2 days where everyone who didn't use an Achievement Unlocker tool to get the new weapons immediately got a cosmetic.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

funny as the mason ban is, apparently he posted an email from steam support in discord saying that he's allowed to make a new account so the "permaban" is more of a slap on the wrist

Orv
May 4, 2011

repiv posted:

funny as the mason ban is, apparently he posted an email from steam support in discord saying that he's allowed to make a new account so the "permaban" is more of a slap on the wrist

If he streams DotA for a living it likely nuked a shitton of cosmetics and he'll also now be in baby queue if he makes a new account. Given who he is as a person his new account is unlikely to have a good behavior score either.

Velocity Raptor
Jul 27, 2007

I MADE A PROMISE
I'LL DO ANYTHING

repiv posted:

funny as the mason ban is, apparently he posted an email from steam support in discord saying that he's allowed to make a new account so the "permaban" is more of a slap on the wrist

Valve anti-cheat: "Hmm. This new player is playing a little too good for a new account. SMURF!" :redhammer:

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

repiv posted:

funny as the mason ban is, apparently he posted an email from steam support in discord saying that he's allowed to make a new account so the "permaban" is more of a slap on the wrist

...Then what is the point. lol.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Riot please, the people yearn for the Tribunal.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
You have been banned for being toxic, including possibly smurfing. Now we are going to fully sanction you smurfing by allowing you to make a new account, which also makes the ban pointless

Barudak
May 7, 2007

njsykora posted:

Riot please, the people yearn for the Tribunal.

Only if they let me give the death penalty.

Zokari
Jul 23, 2007

The Kins posted:

They also sent out less-toxic coal lumps to players who had been using alt accounts to dunk on lower-skilled players, with a message attached basically saying "we know what you're doing, stop it or we'll ban you". Sorta like the "Cheater's Lament" thing item in the Team Fortress 2 days where everyone who didn't use an Achievement Unlocker tool to get the new weapons immediately got a cosmetic.

that was actually related to using a 3rd-party idling tool instead of idling in the actual game, which i continue to maintain does not count as cheating

also they later gave it to everyone anyway so who even knows what the intent was

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Ibram Gaunt posted:

He admitted to have people play his account for him, specifically so he would have games on his record without him screaming and raging out lol.

The "behavior score booster" services actually do a little more than that.

They abuse the matchmaking algorithm to queue for ranked in a way that guarantees they get in a 10 stack with co-conspirators (e.g. by setting their language to Chinese and being the only 10 people playing in Chinese on the Dubai server at 5am Dubai time)
Then one team feeds wins to the other to get the matches over as fast as possible (like 7 minutes instead of 30-40 per game) and on the post-match screen all players on both teams hit the button to "commend" the boosted account.

Sininu
Jan 8, 2014

The Kins posted:

Sorta like the "Cheater's Lament" thing item in the Team Fortress 2 days where everyone who didn't use an Achievement Unlocker tool to get the new weapons immediately got a cosmetic.

I didn't get it and I hadn't even heard of SAM before few years later. Maybe it was because I followed a friend to achievement idle server to mess around a few times?

Zokari posted:

that was actually related to using a 3rd-party idling tool instead of idling in the actual game, which i continue to maintain does not count as cheating

also they later gave it to everyone anyway so who even knows what the intent was

I still didn't get it :(

Sininu fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Dec 16, 2023

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Kith posted:

Not that it's any of y'all's business, but I am a sex worker and have been for over ten years. My complaint was not about ~wanting censorship~, it was about not wanting to deal with a new wave of kids entering my workspace and getting taken advantage of by horrible loving people.

It was really cool seeing a bunch of posters being like "might as well let neutral spaces get made less safe since kids are going to get taken advantage of anyway," though! That part was awesome.

You are still loving wrong and stupid. Twitxh is not a "neutral space" and it wasn't made "less safe".

Improbable Lobster fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Dec 16, 2023

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Kith posted:

It would have been great if someone had bothered to ask why I was concerned about these things instead of assuming awful poo poo about me and jumping up my rear end about it, yes.

It'd be nice if I could do game development full-time, but making ends meet matters more than what would be nice.

Your opinions are incredibly ill informed and at best incredibly naive.

Improbable Lobster fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Dec 16, 2023

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Zokari posted:

that was actually related to using a 3rd-party idling tool instead of idling in the actual game, which i continue to maintain does not count as cheating

also they later gave it to everyone anyway so who even knows what the intent was

I assume they gave it to everyone because of how people went psycho over that poo poo, a ton of servers had weird rules to ban anyone wearing it, and people tended to go out of their way to harass and target anyone wearing it; to say nothing of the endless mods that turned it into a glowing slur or something.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled
The idea that Twitch was anything remotely approaching a child-safe "neutral space" before the rules changes and that the rules changes made things less safe is hopelessly naive. It was already unsafe. Even if you take rear end and titties out of the equation completely, the platform was already infested with literal gambling streams and popular streamers with poorly moderated chats filled with racism and other garbage. The only way I'd let a young kid on Twitch is if I was specifically curating what channels they were watching to begin with, because otherwise they're going to end up in Forsen's chat or something spamming "funny" racist slurs within a couple days.

There are good channels on Twitch with good content but there's an absolute sea of toxic garbage and no young children should be on the site with zero supervision, tits or no tits.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.
Shut the hell up and think of the children.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Improbable Lobster posted:

You are still loving wrong and stupid. Twitxh is not a "neutral space" and it wasn't made "less safe".

don't care

Improbable Lobster posted:

Your opinions are incredibly ill informed and at best incredibly naive.

didn't ask

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Shut up kith

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Kith posted:

don't care

didn't ask

stop posting

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

frankly at this point not sure what sites i would let a kid below the age of like, 14, use unsupervised. gamefaqs?

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

can you fuckers stop this please THANKS

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HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
This thread is taking a break.

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