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ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014
i hate this world

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croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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ELTON JOHN posted:

i hate this world

what are you going to do about it

ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014
gonna do what i can to make it better while understanding that in all likelihood the bad guys are gonna win

ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014
the scientist who got interviewed after the 6th climate assessment had that quote about how it would be impossible to stop a million people trying to cross a border. but with the magic of externalisation, the global north can just send hundreds of millions of dollars to corrupt governments and paramilitaries to torture, kidnap, rape and kill migrants before they even get within sight of the border. and all the wealthy nations can pretend like their hands are clean, safe in the knowledge that the only reporting on the subject will be some in-depth analysis once every couple of years that no one will read

ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014
mfers are gonna do increasingly zany poo poo instead of creating a well funded and stable reception and integration system
https://twitter.com/tansuyegen/status/1682254109850607617?s=46&t=DX0vU4KqndHVjiEw26RVXA

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

The NYC migrant situation is getting worse and worse. The shelters are now beyond capacity and many migrants are becoming defacto homeless. There's a lot of recent reporting on terrible shelter conditions but this NPR article did an especially good job describing what appears to be a disintegrating situation. Homeless living under a bridge asylum seekers illegally delivering doordash to rich yuppies during a heat wave is a real picture.

quote:

NATIONAL
As NYC limits access to migrants and asylum seekers, many are left homeless
July 29, 20235:00 AM ET

From the outside, the tall white building looks like any other hip, new Brooklyn living space. But about a thousand migrant men sleep here every night and there's room for hundreds more. It's a sort of mega shelter, poised to become one of New York City's largest.

It's been open for just a few weeks, and it's already riddled with accusations of abuse.
...
"It's bad in there," says one Mauritanian man named Neimar, who also asked that his last name be withheld for fear he'd be in trouble with shelter authorities. Sitting listlessly on a nearby park bench, Neimar describes the experience as a sort of limbo. "We had no life where we came from, but here we have no luck here. No clothing. No food. Nothing."

Lack of access to food is one of the most common complaints. On a recent day shelter occupants say lunch consists of a bag of chips and a water. Often the food has gone bad.
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For many migrants and asylum seekers, this Brooklyn location is not the first encounter with the New York shelter system. But it does feel like the last straw. Several described the situation at this new site so dire, they would rather sleep under a nearby highway overpass. Others have no choice but to join a homeless camp of nearly 20 men.
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But the question of work and who is allowed to do it is where the federal immigration bureaucracy labyrinth gets even more complicated. The soonest an asylum seeker can get a work permit is six months after they apply for asylum. That's a process that can in turn take years.

"The Mayor does make a good point when he says that the city needs help. And that help should take various forms," said Professor Elora Mukherjee. The city, she says, needs the federal government to lend their authority. "First and foremost: the federal government should authorize asylum seekers to receive their lawful work organization as soon as they enter the United States and fill out the relevant paperwork."

There's no indication that this will happen anytime soon. Instead, many men rent scooters in order to work for food delivery apps. By noon on a recent day, the dinging sound of orders start echoing under the bridge.

The men head out.

It's a dystopian scene: asylum seekers, staying in a shelter and under a bridge, delivering pricey meals throughout New York.

A few days later, the police sweep the camp. For several hours the men say they are driven around the city on a bus and taken to two different shelters where they are turned away.

Eventually, the bus drops them off in Brooklyn again. The men walk back to the highway overpass and to the camp where they find many of their belongings are now missing. One man reports his immigration papers, cellphone, and clothing all gone.
Would not hold my breath expecting any consideration or help coming from federal immigration authorities towards expediting work authorization, or anything. RIP to that guy that had their immigration papers stolen, my heart sank reading that.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Italy has arrested four Tunisian men in international waters on charges of piracy, accusing them of intercepting migrant vessels in the Mediterranean and then boarding them, robbing the migrants of their money and cell phones, stealing their vessels' engines, and leaving them adrift in their sinking boats.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
I'm surprised they didn't get medals

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Nothus posted:

I'm surprised they didn't get medals

anything to let them redirect people's attention back to evil smugglers and pirates and away from immigration policies that systematically encourage this kind of preying on desperate people

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Citations Needed did a good 3 parter about immigration, and tropes that the media uses when talking about immigration.

https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-184-nativism-in-media-part-1-how-dehumanization-and-militarization-manufactured-a-border-crisis

https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-185-nativism-in-media-part-ii-the-artificial-cold-war-distinction-between-migrants-and-refugees

https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-186-nativism-in-media-part-iii-imf-nafta-and-global-inequality-by-design

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

NPR recently did an in-depth article on disastrous conditions in US ICE detention centres, based on govt inspectors reports. Despite all that's known about ICE centres the descriptions are somehow shocking. Especially brutal is the death of Kamyar Samimi:

quote:

INVESTIGATIONS
Government's own experts found 'barbaric' and 'negligent' conditions in ICE detention
August 16, 20235:01 AM ET
Heard on All Things Considered
Tom Dreisbach
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Neda and her family were unaware that on Thanksgiving Day 2017, Kamyar was being held in an ICE detention center in Aurora, Colo., a facility run by GEO Group.

Kamyar Samimi was a lawful permanent resident. But back in 2005, he pleaded guilty to possession of cocaine — less than a gram in total — and was sentenced to community service. Twelve years later, ICE decided that this conviction rendered him deportable. Federal law allows the government to revoke an immigrant's lawful permanent resident status and deport them for a variety of reasons, including for committing crimes of "moral turpitude" or committing an "aggravated felony." Kamyar's family was worried when they learned about his situation after Thanksgiving, Neda says, but they thought it was just a paperwork issue.

Then two weeks after Kamyar's arrest, an ICE officer dropped off a business card at Neda's work and said to call.
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They discovered a detainee death review conducted by ICE showing that the staff at the Aurora ICE Processing Center had cut Kamyar Samimi off his medication cold turkey. Nurses relied on withdrawal guidelines for alcohol instead of opioids and thought Samimi was "faking" his withdrawal symptoms, including a seizure. The facility's doctor never examined Samimi.

After a sleepless night when he screamed in his cell that he couldn't breathe, Samimi's condition worsened and he vomited blood clots. A nurse said, "He's dying." But the staff delayed several more hours before calling 911. On Dec. 2, 2017, only two weeks after being arrested by ICE, Kamyar Samimi was pronounced dead. The medical expert inspecting the Aurora ICE Processing Center for the Department of Homeland Security looked into the case and appeared to be stunned.
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The entire article is worth reading, though disturbing. However here is one esp key point:

quote:

The reports obtained by NPR depict a wide spectrum of problems in ICE detention.

Most immigration detention facilities are managed by private, for-profit corporations that contract with the government, including GEO Group and CoreCivic. Local jails, typically operated by county sheriff's departments, also enter into contracts with the government to hold detainees on behalf of ICE.

Legally, immigration detention is considered civil — not criminal — in nature. "Detention is non-punitive," ICE states on its website. Immigration detention is primarily for holding people who are awaiting the adjudication of their immigration cases. That can include immigrants apprehended at the border who are seeking asylum; people who entered the U.S. illegally and whom the government wants to deport or deems a public safety risk; and permanent residents who are hit with deportation orders.
Immigration is a civil matter so all these detentions are entirely optional and unnecessary. It's tempting to say the cruelty is the point but the likely real driver is giving private prison operators money making opportunities. Apparently it's a growth industry:


The article links to the actual inspector reports at the bottom and it's all so bad. No wonder the admin fought their release.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/26/world/middleeast/saudi-killing-migrants-yemen.html?smtyp=cur

Some classic poo poo, this isn't the first time this has happened. :thumbsup:

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Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



China Is Suffering a Brain Drain. The U.S. Isn’t Exploiting It.

Nobody wants to work in the US any more.

quote:

In the 1980s and 1990s, when China was poor, its best and brightest sought to study and work — and stay — in the West. Emigration, on net, peaked in 1992 with more than 870,000 people leaving the country, according to the United Nations. That number fell to a low of roughly 125,000 in 2012, as China emerged from poverty to become a tech power and the world’s second-biggest economy.

The Chinese government worked hard to keep them, rolling out incentives to lure back scientists and other skilled people. In 2016, more than 80 percent of Chinese who studied abroad returned home, according to the Ministry of Education, up from about a quarter two decades earlier.

The trend has reversed. In 2022, despite passport and travel restrictions, more than 310,000 Chinese, on net, emigrated, according to the U.N. data. With three months to go this year, the number has reached the same level as the whole of 2022.

That should have been the introduction but it's a little later. The rest is interviewing a representative sample of 14 people to figure out why Chinese emigrants wouldn't want to go to the greatest country on Earth.

quote:

Most of the emigrants I spoke to, explaining why they did not pick the United States, cited America’s complicated and unpredictable process for applying for visas and permanent resident status... Some tech professionals chose Canada and European countries over the United States because of their better social benefits, work-life balance and gun control laws.

No poo poo?

quote:

The number of student visas granted by the United States to Chinese nationals, long a starting point for promising future emigrants, began to fall in 2016, as relations between the countries deteriorated. In the first six months of 2023, Britain granted more than 100,000 study visas to Chinese nationals, while the United States granted roughly 65,000 F1 student visas.

This seems like it would have been a good place to mention started happening to discourage international students around 2016 and also why things haven't improved much, alas. The whole article might have been illuminating and informative in a different publication but I guess it couldn't decide whether to be about China's imminent collapse or American capitalism's failure to exploit it.

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