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Epilogue, Part 1: March - April, 1972quote:World News The bribes we had to pay to get that final deal over the finish line will cause problems for months to come. And despite what the foreign media reports, our relationship with China is in far, far better shape than our relationship with Tokyo, who were not impressed with the deals we struck with the protest organizers. But with stability restored at last, their options are limited. quote:The Displaced Family quote:The Displaced Family quote:The Struggling Founder quote:The Good Cop quote:The Modern Princess
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 03:42 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 06:27 |
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Well, we got through the riots without Morita's head on a pike, and without the IJA just shooting everyone. Komei has been totally isolated and we're not losing sight of the threat he poses. Ibuka has to eat a whole plate of poo poo. Matsushita ended up evolving into a pretty useful team player. Sony-CK are putting more products in more homes than ever and we stand to make a killing even as we make some not-completely-token reforms. Honestly, as far as dystopian corporation-states go this is probably about as good an outcome we could have hoped for. Good work in game, and excellent work with the LP!
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 07:03 |
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Survival has been achieved, everything else is a bonus.
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 11:31 |
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This is the second worst* ending for Komai, and I know that nobody get a truly happy ending in Guangdong but man I wish there was an option to get Stanley Ho's "legitimate" friends to make him disappear or commit suicide by shooting himself ten times in the back or something. *worst is where his coup succeeds and then he fails to contain the riots, so he gets dragged from his panic room and shot in the loving face by Lee Chun.
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 15:44 |
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I get the sense that Komai's not long for this world and that his handlers in Hsingking are gonna call him home where he'll be buried in an unmarked grave. Honestly, shitlibbing it up worked out decently for Guangdong. It's not a particularly great place, but it's certainly better than most of the rest of the Co-Prosperity Sphere and didn't get brutally subjugated by Japan for being too radical. At least, not yet.
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 17:05 |
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Moon Slayer posted:This is the second worst* ending for Komai, and I know that nobody get a truly happy ending in Guangdong but man I wish there was an option to get Stanley Ho's "legitimate" friends to make him disappear or commit suicide by shooting himself ten times in the back or something.
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 17:19 |
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Moon Slayer posted:I wish there was an option to get Stanley Ho's "legitimate" friends to make him disappear or commit suicide by shooting himself ten times in the back or something.[/spoiler] There's a Fujitsu route outcome where Stanley ends up in forever jail and the Yakuza get gradually squeezed out by Ibuka's all-consuming techbro dictatorship for the least crime-y outcome, but that's much worse in general and life under zero compromise Ibuka sounds legitimately worse than the Yakuza or Triads being in charge
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 17:27 |
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Moon Slayer posted:This is the second worst* ending for Komai, and I know that nobody get a truly happy ending in Guangdong but man I wish there was an option to get Stanley Ho's "legitimate" friends to make him disappear or commit suicide by shooting himself ten times in the back or something. Yeah, I was definitely hoping Komai found himself at the wrong end of an Arisaka rifle. That said, why is he such an absolute dick? I can understand various Nazis being assholes in this timeline, but I couldn't really find anything on him from a quick Google, other than TNO wiki stuff. 'Cos goddamn, what a slimy son of a bitch. Seriously, if this was some kind of corpo propaganda to inspire people to buy Sony shares and divest themselves of Hitachi's, it's kind of working
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 20:17 |
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CommissarMega posted:Yeah, I was definitely hoping Komai found himself at the wrong end of an Arisaka rifle. That said, why is he such an absolute dick? I can understand various Nazis being assholes in this timeline, but I couldn't really find anything on him from a quick Google, other than TNO wiki stuff. 'Cos goddamn, what a slimy son of a bitch. Seriously, if this was some kind of corpo propaganda to inspire people to buy Sony shares and divest themselves of Hitachi's, it's kind of working From what I googled so far, he's getting more famous because of TNO than whatever he did OTL
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 20:22 |
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I assumed that he was made up for the story, since my cursory wiki and google searches didn't turn up anything, and he's portrayed as especially vile.
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 21:04 |
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Well, we won here! Prevented a collapse, got a series of reforms through, and are slowly bringing prosperity back without a total crackdown of the locals. I'll call that a success
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# ? Oct 7, 2023 00:08 |
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Moon Slayer posted:I assumed that he was made up for the story, since my cursory wiki and google searches didn't turn up anything, and he's portrayed as especially vile. Yeah, that makes sense. Considering Li Ka-Shing is still alive and Stanley Ho only passed in 2020, it's entirely possible that if Komai was a real person either he or his estate would have no trouble suing the modders for defamation
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# ? Oct 7, 2023 00:11 |
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Well I found this webpage, so assuming it isn't an elaborate fake, he was a real person, and the 3rd President of Hitachi.
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# ? Oct 7, 2023 00:19 |
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Well ... huh.
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# ? Oct 7, 2023 00:23 |
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Apparently, it has to do with Hitachi's connection to Nissan. Nissan used a lot of slave labor and did a lot of bad things in Manchuria, and Hitachi was a subsidiary of them. OTL they separated after the war ended, but in TNO they stayed together and presumably Hitachi stayed involved with all the horrible poo poo going on up in the north. So, Komai's made slimy by association, I think.
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# ? Oct 7, 2023 06:24 |
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Epilogue, Part 2: May 1972 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_Rock_Spirit With their respective situations back home secure, Morita and Li head abroad. Unfortunately, they each return more concerned than when they left. quote:World News The news from further north is concerning, but pales in comparison to the picture that begins to emerge when the two exchange notes. quote:The Good Cop and the Modern Princess quote:The Displaced Family quote:As day fades in Guangdong, a million office workers, factory men, housewives, and executives work and play in the lengthening shadow of Sony and Cheung Kong. Their lives - always fleeting, but never so vivid - glitter along the banks of the Pearl River, a million lights momentarily holding back the unstoppable march of time. Thanks for reading!
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# ? Oct 9, 2023 02:32 |
As if we needed reminding that for all our efforts, TNO's world is an awful, hosed-up place. Thanks for your hard work!
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# ? Oct 9, 2023 04:51 |
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The Great Asian War is going to be a nightmare on a scale undreamed of, and that's assuming nobody drops nukes. What was our GDP at the end?
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# ? Oct 9, 2023 09:33 |
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Guangdong stuff is great! Real good ending reminding us that you can make a corporate hellhole better, but you can't make it not a corporate hellhole.
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# ? Oct 9, 2023 11:18 |
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Yay! We pulled through!
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# ? Oct 10, 2023 00:06 |
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NewMars posted:Guangdong stuff is great! Real good ending reminding us that you can make a corporate hellhole better, but you can't make it not a corporate hellhole. Honestly, I wanted a more explosive ending, like maybe a revolution or, the state imploding or something. It's very much a 'congratulations for surviving, here's the following day' kind of ending. It was a cool story though, almost makes me want to play the game!
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# ? Oct 10, 2023 11:20 |
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Holy poo poo you could make a whole rear end book with all that
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# ? Oct 10, 2023 14:16 |
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The state imploding is if you gently caress up, but there's also the fact the IJA would always enforce order no matter how brutal it would be if the riots were to get out of control. I can't really see an option to make Core Japan give up on a massive economic center on top of being lovely fascists who would never allow the insult anyway. But it's also important to state that it shows there's always some hope of things actually getting better, even if it's done purely for the most cynical or jaded reasons even if it's still a corpo state. After all, it can always get much worse as Manchuria shows. ChaseSP fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Oct 10, 2023 |
# ? Oct 10, 2023 17:44 |
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China has spent the course of the game modernizing and secretly militarizing. Part of the tragedy is that no matter what happens, Guangdong is the front line in a Third Sino-Japanese War.
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# ? Oct 10, 2023 18:04 |
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Chatrapati posted:Honestly, I wanted a more explosive ending, like maybe a revolution or, the state imploding or something. It's very much a 'congratulations for surviving, here's the following day' kind of ending. Yeah, this ain't that kind of story, I'm afraid. We got essentially the "best" Guangdong ending, and they get progressively worse from here. Morita and Li do actually care about the people and bettering their lives while also making huge profits for their companies. Without going into too many details because I would encourage anybody curious to play through yourself, but: Matsushita is pretty much just the status quo, Ibuka is real bad for the people of Guangdong, Komai is extremely bad, and anybody who fails to keep the Japanese appeased during the riots and triggers the IJA intervention, well ... everybody dies, basically. Ms Adequate posted:What was our GDP at the end? I forgot to get a screenshot of the actual number, but I will say that all of the resources we threw at the Oil Crises and Riots meant that our growth was basically flat for 1971.
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# ? Oct 10, 2023 18:23 |
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Thank you for doing that LP. As someone that tried to play TNO and bounced back hard its fun to read about. But would rather play something actually fun..
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 10:49 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 06:27 |
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alex314 posted:Thank you for doing that LP. As someone that tried to play TNO and bounced back hard its fun to read about. But would rather play something actually fun.. You should try mercenary Magadan.
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