older coworker has discovered the c++ keyword "auto"

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akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

Ciaphas posted:

i refuse to learn about anything after c++98

last time I touched c++ it was with visual c++ 6

# ? Jun 3, 2023 05:09

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 16:33

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

rotor posted:

people bitch about java being too wordy but goddamn

this example was very short. I felt bad that I was not able to come up with the kind of horrors that emerge from just regular C++

# ? Jun 3, 2023 05:17

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

i use unreal blueprints which is basically just c++ and so can I just be real here for a second and say that c++ is easy as gently caress

# ? Jun 3, 2023 05:17

git apologist: Jun 4, 2003

Sweevo posted:

this is what happens when you have a generation of programmers raised on javascript and p-lang toy bullshit

the macho programmer has logged on

# ? Jun 3, 2023 08:59

Zlodo: Nov 25, 2006

yeah, i too prefer

unique_ptr< ComcreteFactoryAbstractRuleProviderStrategyImplContainer > thing = make_unique< ComcreteFactoryAbstractRuleProviderStrategyImplContainer >();

Over
auto thing = make_unique< ComcreteFactoryAbstractRuleProviderStrategyImplContainer >();

Verbosity and repetitions make the code so much clearer

# ? Jun 3, 2023 10:13

Zlodo: Nov 25, 2006

typical review from guy who dislikes auto:

auto& thing = Blah::GetInstance().GetThing();
thing.Wank();

"Argh don't use auto we dont know what the type of thing is!!!"

Blah::GetInstance().GetThing().Wank();

"Ok :thumbsup:

# ? Jun 3, 2023 10:26

git apologist: Jun 4, 2003

Zlodo posted:

typical review from guy who dislikes auto:

auto& thing = Blah::GetInstance().GetThing();
thing.Wank();

"Argh don't use auto we dont know what the type of thing is!!!"

Blah::GetInstance().GetThing().Wank();

"Ok "

but what sort of wank is it

and what if you were expecting a wank but we�re given a tug :ohdear:

# ? Jun 3, 2023 10:38

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Zlodo posted:

typical review from guy who dislikes auto:

auto& thing = Blah::GetInstance().GetThing();
thing.Wank();

"Argh don't use auto we dont know what the type of thing is!!!"

Blah::GetInstance().GetThing().Wank();

"Ok "

# ? Jun 3, 2023 15:50

AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

Zlodo posted:

yeah, i too prefer

unique_ptr< ComcreteFactoryAbstractRuleProviderStrategyImplContainer > thing = make_unique< ComcreteFactoryAbstractRuleProviderStrategyImplContainer >();

Over
auto thing = make_unique< ComcreteFactoryAbstractRuleProviderStrategyImplContainer >();

Verbosity and repetitions make the code so much clearer

Zlodo posted:

typical review from guy who dislikes auto:

auto& thing = Blah::GetInstance().GetThing();
thing.Wank();

"Argh don't use auto we dont know what the type of thing is!!!"

Blah::GetInstance().GetThing().Wank();

"Ok "

let it out OP

# ? Jun 3, 2023 20:07

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

AnimeIsTrash posted:

let it out OP

I bet you also like hard tabs

# ? Jun 3, 2023 20:20

qsvui: Aug 23, 2003; some crazy thing

auto is great if you don't want implicit conversions, which c++ allows way too much of

but ultimately the solution is:

Captain Foo posted:

you auto use a better language

# ? Jun 3, 2023 21:21

Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

Do you also complain when people write std::string instead of std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char>>?

# ? Jun 4, 2023 08:01

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

Xarn posted:

Do you also complain when people write std::string instead of std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char>>?

yep

# ? Jun 4, 2023 10:34

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Xarn posted:

Do you also complain when people write std::string instead of std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char>>?

usually I let it slide

# ? Jun 4, 2023 22:45

Deep Dish Fuckfest: Sep 6, 2006; Advanced
Computer Touching; Toilet Rascal

i just find some global variable with the type i need and use decltype() to create a new one with the same type

# ? Jun 5, 2023 01:16

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

Xarn posted:

Do you also complain when people write std::string instead of std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char>>?

and people say javascript is bad

# ? Jun 5, 2023 01:35

Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

It is

# ? Jun 5, 2023 08:35

Deep Dish Fuckfest: Sep 6, 2006; Advanced
Computer Touching; Toilet Rascal

can we please not have this discussion again? all programming languages are bad because computers are bad and so is anything computer adjacent, computer touchers most of all

# ? Jun 5, 2023 15:24

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

can we please not have this discussion again? all programming languages are bad because computers are bad and so is anything computer adjacent, computer touchers most of all

what about code red mtn dew? is that bad and or computer adjacemnt

# ? Jun 5, 2023 16:00

Poopernickel: Oct 28, 2005; electricity bad; Fun Shoe

rotor posted:

i was like "the loving thing is all header files, where is the code??"

C++: the loving thing is all header files, where is the code??

# ? Jun 5, 2023 19:02

Poopernickel: Oct 28, 2005; electricity bad; Fun Shoe

it's header files all the way down, my friend

this is why c++ compile times are poo poo and why g++ eats ram like it's adderall

# ? Jun 5, 2023 19:24

Ciaphas: Nov 20, 2005; > BEWARE, COWARD

whyyyy did i use std::pair instead of making a god damned struct with a constructor so the compiler would error or at least warn on this poo poo

# ? Jun 5, 2023 21:19

Ciaphas: Nov 20, 2005; > BEWARE, COWARD

i hate c++ now, as well as myself

# ? Jun 5, 2023 21:20

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

i won�t lie, I do NOT understand any of that bullshit

code:

FOR i = 1 TO 10
PRINT �TURN ON YOUR MONITOR�
NEXT

this is all we ever needed

# ? Jun 5, 2023 21:26

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Ciaphas posted:

i hate c++ now, as well as myself

this is the way

# ? Jun 5, 2023 21:26

Sweevo: Nov 8, 2007; i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

10 print "PENUS ";
20 goto 10

# ? Jun 5, 2023 21:33

Ciaphas: Nov 20, 2005; > BEWARE, COWARD

echinopsis posted:

i won�t lie, I do NOT understand any of that bullshit

find() was being called to look for default values instead of the values i wanted to look for

# ? Jun 5, 2023 21:37

Poopernickel: Oct 28, 2005; electricity bad; Fun Shoe

Ciaphas posted:

whyyyy did i use std::pair instead of making a god damned struct with a constructor so the compiler would error or at least warn on this poo poo

move! Look up, devid

devid nooooo

# ? Jun 5, 2023 22:16

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
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we breathin'
we dyin'

Sweevo posted:

10 print "PENUS ";
20 goto 10

# ? Jun 6, 2023 00:18

cowboy beepboop: Feb 24, 2001

Ciaphas posted:

whyyyy did i use std::pair instead of making a god damned struct with a constructor so the compiler would error or at least warn on this poo poo

right click refactor easy peasy

# ? Jun 6, 2023 10:51

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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

no it doesn't and thank loving god for it. the compiler has to be able to figure out the type at compile time for it to work

we are, of course, talking about auto when used as placeholder for a local variable type here, because in true c++ fashion every keyword needs to have as many different meaning as possible in different context (though thankfully all of them still require the type to be deducible at compile time). we're not talking about auto used as, say, a function parameter type as is now allowed in c++20. possibly with concepts acting as constraints. or as part of decltype(auto) and its delightfully obvious meaning. or its effect of transforming a normal god-fearing r-value reference into a universal reference of loose morals when replacing a concrete type in a variable definition. or the type of firearm best suited to ending my suffering

This guy c++es

# ? Jun 6, 2023 14:33

rjmccall: Sep 7, 2007; no worries friend; Fun Shoe

Ciaphas posted:

whyyyy did i use std::pair instead of making a god damned struct with a constructor so the compiler would error or at least warn on this poo poo

yeah c++�s love of default initialization is a huge design mistake. it gets overlooked when people talk about default init because u.b. is an even more glaring problem but that�s fixable whereas the language not forcing you to use meaningful values is not

a simplified version of this (just with a local variable) was in my c++now talk a few weeks ago. i�ll steal this aggregate thing though for the next time i need to talk about it

# ? Jun 6, 2023 18:39