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Slyphic posted:4th ed RPG book just came out. There's some fantastic new art in it. Those are some suicidally brave infantry for running into melee with GRELs, doesn't seem to be working too well for them either. Slyphic posted:And with the release of the RPG, the embargo on info about the next Blitz faction, New Jerusalem, appears to be lifting. What's the deal with this faction? Either lore or mechanical identity, If anything has been revealed yet that is.
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No real word on NJ's mechanics yet. Lore wise, there's been a series of posts from their designer about the history of the planet approaching current era - https://www.dp9community.com/gear-up-blog/tag/Heavy+Gear+RPG I'm like two weeks behind in reading it, but I thought it was really cool.
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Oct 24, 2023 03:52
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What if Celestial Being was Bibleman, is what i'm guessing.
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Thanks for the link, I looked at the first two and will probably check out the rest later. I will say based off the first two I am a bit worried about how the rest will go, the topics this faction seems to be covering is full to bursting with potential pitfalls.
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Oct 24, 2023 05:42
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It's all so very broad stroke that I don't think you have anything to worry about. I've read most of the entries, and Fivemarks looks to have hit the nail on the head. It's about as engaged with the specifics of the faiths involved as Gundam 00 got.
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PeterWeller posted:It's all so very broad stroke that I don't think you have anything to worry about. I've read most of the entries, and Fivemarks looks to have hit the nail on the head. It's about as engaged with the specifics of the faiths involved as Gundam 00 got. Well, that's probably better than them going very in depth and specific but making it inadvertently offensive. I guess I'll find out more when I get around to reading the rest of it, but right now I'm probably more interested in what they might bring to the table mechanics-wise. Speaking of getting around to things, I've been able to start up working on my South starter boxes again. Progress got halted for a good while due to medical issues, and it will still be worked on at a glacial pace because of that, but it's nice to be back on track.
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Phantombane posted:I'm probably more interested in what they might bring to the table mechanics-wise. Most information on that front so far would be in part 21. "Cherubim are the most common type of angel. They are bipedal, and have human-like proportions with two arms and a head. Based on the reports of Black Talon observers, several key features have been identified. Pilots enter the vehicle from a hatch on the back by the base of the neck. Cherubim are highly flexible units, capable of rapid weapon swaps in the field. Their small size and small battery system, however, mean the majority are restricted to a single main weapon in order to maximize operating time. Cherubim also typically have a system of jump jets which allow them to use quick controlled bursts of air to vault over small obstacles like walls and wrecked vehicles. Reports on the next class of angels by Black Talon observers are more rare. It is not suspected that this is due to secrecy so much as observers simply not being around them. Called seraphim, these angels that feature more than two legs and lack arms. They are often described as looking like a tank on legs. Typical Seraphim feature an elongated central body with multiple [legs] protruding from the sides. Seraphim take the place of traditional tanks in the Shepherds’ arsenal. Interestingly, reports suggest that a Seraphim has only one pilot and its support virtue takes a more active role in running the vehicle." They sound like they'll be closest to Black Talons crossed with Eden on the table, but that "single main weapon" comment is probably important. Not much yet, but the whole line was slated for "after 4th ed RPG comes out" and that's happened so I'm expecting more and soon. Painting wise, I've got 2 of 6 of my chopped up and remixed Utopian Armigers done. Trying something wildly different than my usual style here. I wanted a retro space opera-y look, bright and alien, avoiding my usual mundane drab and grimy palette. It's really matte which is throwing off photos but I think it works. Base scale is off a smidge, but eh... 
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Oct 25, 2023 13:51
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Slyphic posted:They sound like they'll be closest to Black Talons crossed with Eden on the table, but that "single main weapon" comment is probably important. Not much yet, but the whole line was slated for "after 4th ed RPG comes out" and that's happened so I'm expecting more and soon. It's probably very likely since (4th ed rulebook spoilers) the last fiction piece of the 4ed rulebook has a NJ (formerly CEF) ship arriving through one of terra nova's gates
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Slyphic posted:Painting wise, I've got 2 of 6 of my chopped up and remixed Utopian Armigers done. Trying something wildly different than my usual style here. I wanted a retro space opera-y look, bright and alien, avoiding my usual mundane drab and grimy palette. It's really matte which is throwing off photos but I think it works. Base scale is off a smidge, but eh... This dude looks great. I like the strong later seasons of Robotech vibes in the color scheme.
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Oct 25, 2023 16:06
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Golden Gear competition just closed for entries. They've got all the submissions up in a thread on the forum. Judging will be anytime between next week and middle of January. My own favorites: Best Mini  I love the shade of yellow they pulled off, and the careful control of worn and perfectly smooth surfaces. Just drips with purposeful and intentional control of the paint job. Best Group  The lower half of this collage, a nice cell shaded approach that lets the camo be camo without making the models hard to read. Best Custom  A tremendous amount of customization going on, but you'd be hard pressed to pick it out if you didn't know the shape of the original models. And just a lovely homage. Best Duelist  There's a lot of overlap between Custom and Duelist, but the overall components here aside from the weapon are mostly stock and it looks badass. Honorable Mentions  The custom model is fun for playing "where did that piece come from?", it's got a Strongbad dragon arm going on, and I am genuinely impressed that they replicated chalk on iron for the eye and teeth on the side of the cockpit, something I have never gotten to look right at all.  And then this craziness for making me do a double take, no, those aren't photoshopped weapon effects, that's all physical props.
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Dec 1, 2023 19:15
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Slyphic posted:I am genuinely impressed that they replicated chalk on iron for the eye and teeth on the side of the cockpit, something I have never gotten to look right at all. I was helping a buddy do his Flames of War Russians and a white or light gray colored pencil made doing the turret slogans super-easy and had that lovely paint/chalk look to it if you haven't tried that. Just hit it with a swipe of something like Lahmian Medium after as it'll rub off otherwise.
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Dec 1, 2023 19:52
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Slyphic posted:Best Group Lots of cool minis in that Golden Gear contest! I really like that turquoise black color on that Dark Cobra Julius duelist, and that Gilgamesh tank is definitely impressive though simultaneously a bit much I suppose. From the other entries in that thread I also like that samurai sidewinder diorama, and the really brightly colored jaeger custom that has the mural like painting on it's shield.
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Dec 12, 2023 01:19
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New version of the companion (optional and in progress) rules have come out, looks like flex actions (save an action for next turn, or use next turn's action early) will make less survivable units and weapons that don't throw a lot of dice like bazookas or snub cannons more viable.
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  I'm very curious to test try the new flex actions out, as the ineffectiveness of basic hunter/jagers has been a bugbear of mine. Other changes are mostly updating and replacing renders with finished painted pictures of models, and the new Wasserjager.
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Dec 22, 2023 00:12
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New camera(phone) and my now pictures suck a lot less rear end. Got a game in with Dr. Tree and while I lost and was tabled, it was actually a pretty close affair in VP. MVP was that Fusilier (the brown tank), scoring 3 consecutive and important kill shots.  
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Oh no, did that Chargeur claim another high profile kill on that Vulture of yours, or was that one of the casualties of the Fusilier?
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Chargeur crippled the Vulture, the Fusilier finished the job. One of these days I'm going to sufficiently mindfull of NuCoal's speed and effective reach. Talons didn't roll over without a fight. The Dark Hyena linked rotary lasers spun around and deleted a ballsy Jerboa from the table. That turret is unbelievably nasty, as long as you can stop 4 different units from drawing a bead on it. 
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Slyphic posted:Chargeur crippled the Vulture, the Fusilier finished the job. One of these days I'm going to sufficiently mindfull of NuCoal's speed and effective reach. Yeah I imagine most things lighter than a fire support gear are going to be very unhappy about being target by a linked MRL. Was that Jerboa that got disintegrated the one that wrecked all those hovertanks with a bazooka last time?
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Slyphic posted:New camera(phone) and my now pictures suck a lot less rear end. Got a game in with Dr. Tree and while I lost and was tabled, it was actually a pretty close affair in VP. MVP was that Fusilier (the brown tank), scoring 3 consecutive and important kill shots. I love this city terrain. Is it from Dropship Commander? I bought a bunch of N scale buildings for my table, and I just got a pair of Leopards with which to climb them. I'm hyped to try them out.
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The table is a mix of the Dropship Commander paper terrain and some 4Ground MDF buildings, but most of what you can see clearly in those photos is the DZC buildings. It was OoP for a while, but recently had a reprint, and it's still an insanely good value https://valhallahobby.com/shop/product/dropzone-commander-cityscape-2023/
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Jan 17, 2024 18:44
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Oh wow. That is a good deal. Thanks!
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Is there a good place to buy Heavy Gear models besides the DP9 website or random eBay sellers? Getting killed on the shipping.
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The Malthusian posted:Is there a good place to buy Heavy Gear models besides the DP9 website or random eBay sellers? Getting killed on the shipping. US? https://www.fortressminiaturesandgames.com/collections/dream-pod-9 They had a thing on their blog a while back about becoming an official US distributor for DP9, and I've been ordering from them for years with no complaints whatsoever. It's where I get 90% of my HG stuff from. Skimming my order history (to Texas), it ranges from $10 for a $70 order to $15 for a $350 order. Which beats the pants off my last DP9.com order of $17 on a $50 order. Europe? https://shinygamesdistribution.com/products/ is the answer I see others repeat, but I have no first hand experience with them. Slyphic fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jan 24, 2024 |
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My stuff is from shiny, they're fine - they're the european distro for HG rn so anyone over here selling it is getting it from them. They don't stock everything; it's generally better if you're running North as they have the most selection there - South is second but you're missing the larger tanks or anything that isn't a stock hun rn, and stuff like infantry is slightly more expensive. Never had any issues with shipping or whatever though. They also hand write thankyous on their receipts which is nice. (NB: I'm in the UK where shiny is based, idk how their european shipping is).
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Robert always kicks me back a bunch of the shipping charge on the DP9 site.
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So I bought some caimans and they're very charming little minis; but I'm not really sure how I would model the command upgrade or the medical version. I'm planning to magnetise everything, I guess the medical caiman would just have the plate on top? (I'm not sure how good that looks though). There's also some antennae but there doesn't seem to be anywhere obvious where they would fit, and the little dome thing that looks like comms equipment replaces the turrets, which I guess is how things probably used to work.
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The medical version you just use the plate that covers the top turret mount and paint a cross on it. The command version uses the satellite dish, which is a nightmare to build. It's a dish with a center post and three tiny resin supports. I think I broke both my masts while trying to replace the supports with wire. And iirc, it mounts between the two roof rack looking things on top.
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Slyphic posted:The medical version you just use the plate that covers the top turret mount and paint a cross on it. The command version uses the satellite dish, which is a nightmare to build. It's a dish with a center post and three tiny resin supports. I think I broke both my masts while trying to replace the supports with wire. And iirc, it mounts between the two roof rack looking things on top. Ohhh, now I see. I thought the dish was the a base for some generic looking comms stuff cause of how well it fits onto the regular turret mount. Thanks, that makes a lot more sense. Edit: thinking about it, I wonder if I could just kitbash a mamba satup from my army box bits - might save me some trouble and it wouldn't block the turret from the back. Disproportionation fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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Still playing and painting when I can find time from my stupid tumultuous life. Last game was a total blowout loss as the EAZ (CEF occupied South) vs NuCoal and Eden/Caprice. Between struggling with how-to-camera and the rolling disaster of my strategies, I only got pics from the start of the game.    Eden melee is super nasty. I had 10TV models taking out 30+ tanks in one hit from half the board away with nothing whatsoever I could do about it. They badly need their jetpack rating reduced (by half, imho) That NC bastard in the yellow construction gear continues to dunk on me as well, but at least there I always feel like it's because I was goaded into over extending. Meanwhile hobby side, got a pair of Anolises (cheap recon gears) and the rest of Special Forces stealth gears painted  I'm usually pretty good about writing down my painting notes either in a notebook or on my blog preferably, but I somehow forgot my camo recipe I used on my Chameleons and so you can see the first through third attempts in the middle there. The Lidded Iguana on the right middle was totally wrong colors, the Snakeye left middle I forgot that the stripes need to be parallel not crosshatch, and then finally the guy in the middle I did it right. Meanwhile Project: Jager Gang mk II is underway. I scored a 5lb box of random metal HG models and there's enough parts there to totally replace all my Jagers with metal variants. It's pretty huge upgrade in posing and detailing from the waist down. 2/8 built. 
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Slyphic posted:Eden melee is super nasty. I had 10TV models taking out 30+ tanks in one hit from half the board away with nothing whatsoever I could do about it. They badly need their jetpack rating reduced (by half, imho) That NC bastard in the yellow construction gear continues to dunk on me as well, but at least there I always feel like it's because I was goaded into over extending. I was initially a little puzzled by this, since I hadn't really seen anyone bring up melee as being that great in the game before. Then I went and actually looked at the rules again and realized that a 6 point constable with 3-4 points of upgrades can be swinging against a vehicle for something like 7d6 with a damage 8 AP5 HSG within a true 18 inch threat radius, and the vehicle likely only gets 1d6 for defense. Then I went and looked further and realized almost none of the defensive skills and equipment actually work against melee attacks either. Overall, that constable is quite the guided missile! I wonder what you are supposed to do about units like that? E-War seems ok if you have extended sensor range and can get a lock, seeing as haywire disables both top speed and auxiliary equipment like the jetpack. 9 inch threat radius that has to actually respect terrain seems like it would be a lot more manageable to deal with.
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Phantombane posted:a 6 point constable with 3-4 points of upgrades can be swinging against a vehicle for something like 7d6 with a damage 8 AP5 HSG within a true 18 inch threat radius, and the vehicle likely only gets 1d6 for defense. Phantombane posted:I wonder what you are supposed to do about units like that? E-War seems ok if you have extended sensor range and can get a lock, seeing as haywire disables both top speed and auxiliary equipment like the jetpack. Eden's current faction rules are a legit problem they need to address, but the jousting rule was added 2019, it didn't see much play because the faction was barely extant even at that point and then the quarantine and then the chief rules dude got dragged into the launch of the 4e RPG. I expect the rules will hit 3.2 around the time the New Jerusalem faction shows up in the rules which iirc is this summer.
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Slyphic posted:e-War and 'just shoot it first to cripple it' are the answers I've mostly found, but neither one has actually worked for me. The Warlock golem is only 2pts more than a Constable, and on top of ECM+ for both the defense bubble and a chance to counter any hacking attempt, it gets airdrop to start even close to targets and it has a better piloting skill which you can use instead of gunnery in melee attacks. I didn't actually notice the Warlock earlier, that definitely seems like a bit much. Slyphic posted:Eden's current faction rules are a legit problem they need to address, but the jousting rule was added 2019, it didn't see much play because the faction was barely extant even at that point and then the quarantine and then the chief rules dude got dragged into the launch of the 4e RPG. I expect the rules will hit 3.2 around the time the New Jerusalem faction shows up in the rules which iirc is this summer. I had already gotten the impression that Eden was a relatively newer and more divergent faction with limited model support/availability, so I'm not terribly surprised by their rules being kind of untuned, though that timeline is kind of weird since that means they've both been here awhile but also don't seem to have been played much. I do hope 3.2 reshuffles things a bit in general, the various parent faction rules seem pretty lopsided in places, and some of the sublists look like they could use some re tuning. With just the Terra Novan factions alone you can just look at South's main faction rules versus all the other ones and it's weirdly barren by comparison.
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Some good soul has restarted the unofficial wiki at a host less cancerous than Fandom - https://heavygear.wiki.gg/wiki/Heavy_Gear_Wiki It's mostly excerpts from the original Vehicle Compendiums, which is peak Heavy Gear details. If it gets filled out a bit more, I'll move it to the OP.
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Slyphic posted:Last game was a total blowout loss as the EAZ (CEF occupied South) vs NuCoal and Eden/Caprice. Between struggling with how-to-camera and the rolling disaster of my strategies, I only got pics from the start of the game. How is the EAZ subfaction? It's something I've been considering for my south stuff because shiny isn't currently stocking much in the way of southern tanks and I was planning on getting a CEF starter box down the line at some point anyway.
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Disproportionation posted:How is the EAZ subfaction? Conceptually an Earth occupied Southern Territories appeals to me. Be the biggest blatant bad guys possible and all, really give the other forces a simple causus belli. Execution is pretty good too, though tricky. My beloved HT-68 can only be included as part of a full 6 action primary combat group. The Legion Noire SO deployment incoherency is pretty cool. It helps that I just have South and CEF forces and it was an easy way to justify fielding them together. Just like how it's easy to run my Black Talons and South units as a Black Talon Strike Team force.
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