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Spinz posted:Iistened, Beatles version is better Yeah. I was wrong.
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It's a toss-up between "Golly Gosh, It's The Beatles!" (1962), "Involuntary Abortion Technician" (1968) or "Beep Boop, It's The BeAItles" (2025).
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Jul 17, 2023 15:39
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Spinz posted:Iistened, Beatles version is better Same, and now my belief is that Helter Skelter is a bad song all around.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:52
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remember that Helter Skeeter channel on youtube that was almost entirely doug clips set to covers of helter skelter
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Jul 17, 2023 15:54
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THIS is the earliest hard rock song imo It's 2000 years old (and only 3 min long) https://youtu.be/fBTT3VPriV8
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Jul 17, 2023 16:25
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This song goes hard and heavy as poo poo in 1954 and it sucks balls this dude isn’t really mentioned among guitar pioneers/greats. Shredding, feedback, reverb, and it’s all done with his thumb, I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gJg7_FgVTI And here’s an alternate version that goes just as hard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2n5PLwMy7w
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You Are A Elf posted:This song goes hard and heavy as poo poo in 1954 and it sucks balls this dude isn’t really mentioned among guitar pioneers/greats. Shredding, feedback, reverb, and it’s all done with his thumb, I think. "Space Guitar" It is awesome.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:55
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Marty Robbins also made a hard-rear end country song when the bass’s equipment had a bad vacuum tube that turned it into the first distorted fuzz tone on record. Guitar pedals mimic that sound because of this recording. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2WBBcH6OPU Marty Robbins owns.
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Jul 17, 2023 17:05
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exile on main street
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NoiseAnnoys posted:exile on main street Exile in Guyville
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Dixville posted:Ah yes the "too high" phase of the Beatles the Rolling Stones actually got too high and made Their Satanic Majesty's Request, sort of a r esponse to sgt pepper its not good but its worth a listen. also it's got "She's a Rainbow"
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eSports Chaebol posted:the Rolling Stones actually got too high and made Their Satanic Majesty's Request, sort of a r esponse to sgt pepper
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Disco Pope posted:"Involuntary Abortion Technician" (1968) Leading to the lawsuit Apple Records/Lennon McCartney VS Butthole Surfers.
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I think you will find that "Best of the Beatles" starring Pete Best is their finest album
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The early stuff is underrated these days. Rubber soul rules though, good opinion OP. I think I said this in the last Beatles thread but Hard Day’s Night is untouchable, hit after hit after hit. It’s insane. Magical mystery tour may just be a weird mishmash of random singles and stuff but it bangs too
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Jul 23, 2023 02:57
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The Beatles are the perfect encapsulation of popular music, as they emerged at the beginning of pop music, then guided it through its complexity. I wanna hold your hand to Helter Skelter.
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redshirt posted:The Beatles are the perfect encapsulation of popular music, as they emerged at the beginning of pop music, then guided it through its complexity. You might say the beatles are the epitome of pop culture. At least internationally
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Jul 23, 2023 03:07
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White Album is easily the most overrated. Some really good songs but they're sandwiched between gimmick songs like Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da and Rocky Raccoon that wear out their welcome after a couple listens.
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:You might say the beatles are the epitome of pop culture. Well, pop culture has certainly expanded/evolved since The Beatles.
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The album they did with charlies Manson on lead vocals as obviously the best, although I think personally they shouldn't of gone to the Polanski mansion, seems like they were trying a bit to hard to keep up with their "bad boys of rock" image IMO.
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the Yellow Submarine soundtrack is good as heck, now I think on it. has three of my absolute favorite Beatles songs in "Hey Bulldog", "Only a Northern Song" and "It's All Too Much". even the B-side of music from the film is pretty fun also: "Old Brown Shoe": bop, or super bop?
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redshirt posted:Well, pop culture has certainly expanded/evolved since The Beatles. of course it has.
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Rubber Soul has a lot of great ones but Michelle is so tedious.
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The word "underrated" has been used with so many different meanings in this thread and elsewhere that its' now officially meaningless. People use it to mean "does not get mentioned every 3 seconds all day every day" and other BS. Going with the original meaning, "underrated" would mean that the album is appreciated less than it deserves. I wouldn't say such a Beatles album exists. Beatles For Sale is their shittiest album, and it's deservedly seen as such. Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper and parts of the subsequent albums are generally seen as the best, which is accurate. Therefore, there aren't any underrated Beatles albums.
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Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:The word "underrated" has been used with so many different meanings in this thread and elsewhere that its' now officially meaningless. loving A man! you make sense. You are a very smart person. I can't believe you were the first person to think of this
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I have no idea which of their albums people even like anymore, back when I used to care about poo poo like this (like 2004), everybody loved Revolver and hated Sgt. Pepper's, so I'd say Sgt. Pepper's, which is just great, even if nothing's on it's as good as "Good Morning Good Morning"
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Rubber soul is very good and the word is an amazing song. Ringo goes off on that number, it's some of his best work by far. He really was a fantastic drummer. I kinda hate the Ringo sucks meme because not only was he extremely influential but he was a very talented drummer. He could play fiercely and yet very precisely, but he could also stand to play very simple rhythms, something very good drummers can sometimes have a hard time doing. He didn't have to rip up every song with intense patterns and fills. His drum set up became the standard and he's a major reason people use matched grip. And im not even a drummer. Honestly all their albums were very good for different reasons. Cosmik Debris fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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Cosmik Debris posted:Rubber soul is very good and the word is an amazing song. Ringo goes off on that number, it's some of his best work by far. He really was a fantastic drummer. I kinda hate the Ringo sucks meme because not only was he extremely influential but he was a very talented drummer. He could play fiercely and yet very precisely, but he could also stand to play very simple rhythms, something very good drummers can sometimes have a hard time doing. He didn't have to rip up every song with intense patterns and fills. Time to post something condescending referencing Neil Peart.
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That's hard to say Like, Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt Pepper's Abbey Road have all been acclaimed about as much as possible The White Album is about 1 really solid album worth of material So maybe Let It Be? I dunno. Help! is also so solid front to back too. So it's probably Help or Let It Be. edit: God drat The Beatles are so loving good Toxic Mental fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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Toxic Mental posted:That's hard to say What's your definition of "underrated"? Help and Let it Be, while good, are most definitely not as good as any of the others you mention.
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Szyznyk posted:Time to post something condescending referencing Neil Peart. I know very little about rush, I know people like them a lot but I wasnt knocking any other drummers. The Beatles were around like 15 years before rush, so like an entire generation of drummers were influenced by Ringo Starr before rush came around. So I think the point still stands. There weren't too terribly many standout rock drummers in the early sixties. Ringo Starr and Charlie watts, and I guess like mick avory were kinda it except for jazz drummers which played very differently imo. Late 60s there was a glut of good drummers though. Cosmik Debris fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:What's your definition of "underrated"? Exactly that? The others are all basically flawless and about as acclaimed as it gets, so the only other options are Help! and Let It Be. Cosmik Debris posted:I know very little about rush, I know people like them a lot but I wasnt knocking any other drummers. The Beatles were around like 15 years before rush, so like an entire generation of drummers were influenced by Ringo Starr before rush came around. So I think the point still stands. Ringo, like all drummers, gets full credit for simply showing up on time, sober, and not quitting the band within 2 weeks. Also poo poo like Come Together and The End are actually drumming genius.
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redshirt posted:The Beatles are the perfect encapsulation of popular music, as they emerged at the beginning of pop music, then guided it through its complexity. I'd add music changed so much from 1960 - 1969 it's barely comprehensible. From the tail end of the 50s, doo wop innocent Light Crust Doughboys sound to the end of the 60s when music was well steeped in everything from all the great rock bands to straight up acid and prog rock, and while they technically were both released in 1970 both Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream had their first releases. Ten years and we went from this (which owns and was very progressive for its day): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzA6gy2vbk To Zeppelin's first album or whatever hard or experimental track you want to pick. I know there were some pioneers doing stuff in the 50s but still the evolution is incredible.
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Big rear end On Fire posted:This is true. part of the evolution was what record labels were willing to record once it became mainstream. like don't get me wrong, Led Zeppelin's version of You Need Love absolutely goes way harder and is a marked evolution, but the Muddy Waters's recorded version was very restrained compared to how it was (sometimes) played live. guys like Buddy Guy and Johnny Guitar Watson were shredding in the 50's and it was basically received like Marty McFly's "your kids will love it" bit like would you believe this was 1954: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gJg7_FgVTI okay having been told that though you'd probably believe a reviewer in Billboard gave it "??" out of 100
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eSports Chaebol posted:like don't get me wrong, Led Zeppelin's version of You Need Love absolutely goes way harder and is a marked evolution, but the Muddy Waters's recorded version was very restrained compared to how it was (sometimes) played live. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but zep were apeing the small faces, they just came up with an ostinato riff but otherwise copied the small faces 1:1. They were notorious rip off artists like that. Robert plant was specifically hired because of how much he sounded like Steve Marriott, who turned down pages offer to sing for the new yardbirds aka Led Zeppelin, since he had just founded the amazing Humble Pie. Listen to the whole song. The small faces slaps way harder than zeppelin in my opinion. It's mod, whereas zeppelins was hard rock, but for my money the small faces is harder than zeppelins which just sounds really polished to my ear (page, Bonham and Jones were all well established session musicians and producers) whereas small faces were scrappy mods who came up playing in bars and rave ups. Page used to wear suits and had a dumb haircut and played on most British skiffle records of the early 1960s. He was super establishment by 1968. Steve Marriott, on the other hand, was the real deal. https://youtu.be/CRXbi3pq7Y4 Cosmik Debris fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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wa27 posted:It's Magical Mystery Tour
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Help!, it's the great Beatles jangle album.
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"They're much more talented musicians than I thought. But they're also much worse poets." My brother, after watching Get Back when he saw that their lyrics were just nonsense they made up on the spot.
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