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Fredrick, Hopkins, Kelce, and Slay are all better players than Stafford. With Kelce and Hopkins it's not particularly close.
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Keenan Allen should be up there too
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Hmm, this seems desperate. He'll be on IR in a month. https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1711487477620285874?s=20
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wandler20 posted:Hmm, this seems desperate. He'll be on IR in a month. Wasn't the last notable thing Josh Norman did be the famous victim of a Derrick Henry stiffarm
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Harlock posted:He's going to be an Eagle in 2 weeks for a 7th round draft pick Teams should really start treating it as a hint to play a guy more when Howie calls up to ask if he can have him for a 2026 6th rounder
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Oct 9, 2023 22:48
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Fredrick, Hopkins, Kelce, and Slay are all better players than Stafford. With Kelce and Hopkins it's not particularly close. Better relative to their positions maybe but if you were drafting them tomorrow knowing the careers they were going to have and took anyone but Stafford first you’d be a fool.
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wandler20 posted:That's not great but it still produced some really good players like Lane Johnson, Xavier Rhodes, Nuk, Cordarrelle Patterson, Travis Frederick, Zach Ertz, Darius Slay, Travis Kelce and way more quality players than that 09 poo poo show. I mean outside of Stafford, who is the best player in that draft? LeSean McCoy? Clay Mathews? Vontae Davis? Malcolm Jenkins ruled and he's a strong contender. Alex Mack as well. Mike Wallace was real good for a while. 2009 had a handful of good players but the Top 10 mostly sucked
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a lot of good it did Detroit
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DeimosRising posted:Better relative to their positions maybe but if you were drafting them tomorrow knowing the careers they were going to have and took anyone but Stafford first you’d be a fool. Unless you already had one of the 16 or so QBs that were better than Matt Stafford.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Unless you already had one of the 16 or so QBs that were better than Matt Stafford. I mean I don’t agree that Stafford is now or has been over his career a below median QB and I think when happened as soon as he got to the Rams bears that out BUT if you’re picking first you almost certainly do not have a better quarterback than Matt Stafford
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DeimosRising posted:I mean I don’t agree that Stafford is now or has been over his career a below median QB and I think when happened as soon as he got to the Rams bears that out BUT if you’re picking first you almost certainly do not have a better quarterback than Matt Stafford I'm somewhat ironically cheering for the Falcons to prove this wrong by filling every other skill position with someone who should be awesome (and already is with Bijan) and having it work out for them.
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Oct 9, 2023 23:13
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MikeCrotch posted:Wasn't the last notable thing Josh Norman did be the famous victim of a Derrick Henry stiffarm I had to go dig this up from the 2020 AFC South thread because it was so good: 
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fartknocker posted:I had to go dig this up from the 2020 AFC South thread because it was so good: Taaaaaaa- -ckllllllllllle Meeeeeeeee
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Oct 9, 2023 23:30
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wandler20 posted:Hmm, this seems desperate. He'll be on IR in a month.
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I'd love to see an analysis of worst overall draft classes of all time, at least deeper than listicle format.
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Sono posted:Unlike the Steelers, who did things the right way: drafting a known rapist and paying him a kings ransom. Ben had no kind of questionable history when he was drafted. Turning into a monster came later. Watson was in the middle of being sued for double digit rapes when the Browns gave up a kings random and mortgaged their future for him. Try not to be so hugely wrong and dumb about this.
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GD_American posted:I'd love to see an analysis of worst overall draft classes of all time, at least deeper than listicle format. 1992 was pretty awful. Not a HoF player in the bunch. Most classes average like 5 to 8
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Grittybeard posted:I'm somewhat ironically cheering for the Falcons to prove this wrong by filling every other skill position with someone who should be awesome (and already is with Bijan) and having it work out for them. 49ers did it first. Then they got a QB 
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a neat cape posted:1992 was pretty awful. Hell, Jimmy Smith and Darren Woodson are the only guys you could even make some kind of case for them.
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kiimo posted:That would hurt a lot more if there was literally anybody else to take
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Todd Haley would have just wasted Maclin anyway
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BrownThunder posted:Ben had no kind of questionable history when he was drafted. Turning into a monster came later. Correction: they drafted an unknown rapist and then stuck with him (twice) after becoming a known rapist
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GD_American posted:Correction: they drafted an unknown rapist and then stuck with him (twice) after becoming a known rapist the twice is what really hangs in my craw. i know it's the NFL, I know how low my standards need to be.. ..but still.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:The 2013 draft class says hi. Holy poo poo I didn't realize Kyle Juszczyk has been playing for a decade.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Unless you already had one of the 16 or so QBs that were better than Matt Stafford. this is a nonsense opinion and you should feel bad for having it.
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News: I know Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love, and you are no Aaron Rodgers. Views: Week 6 already?
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