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Silver Alicorn posted:this is literally what I'm doing atm right now except the static generator is me, directly editing html on github
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I tried setting up a bloggy thing with “Hugo” and it’s a pos
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Silver Alicorn posted:I tried setting up a bloggy thing with “Hugo” and it’s a pos if ever I was to redo mine, I would remind myself that a web site can just be a bunch of files
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https://neocities.org/ 
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Dijkstracula posted:if ever I was to redo mine, I would remind myself that a web site can just be a bunch of files you had me at "huge knot"
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Nov 3, 2023 17:27
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lol if your webserver serves anything that isn't static files
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I often think about how my life would have gone differently if, in ~2010, I had actually started that "cgi-bin as a service" startup and beaten the whole serverless craze by half a decade
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Nov 3, 2023 17:33
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host all your poo poo on the free tier of cloudflare and oracle cloud
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I’m using GitHub pages ok???!!
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sorry. that was uncalled for
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I had a thing going with Hugo that worked with the localist test server but when I uploaded it to GitHub the css didn’t work because it was doing some kinda fingerprinting thing, and I couldn’t figure out how to disable it with the theme I was using. maybe I’ll figure out on the weekend
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Dijkstracula posted:if ever I was to redo mine, I would remind myself that a web site can just be a bunch of files it can just be files!!! *posts a bunch of shell scripts*
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people hated frames but you could use them to put up a static website with a menu pretty easily without having to use a site generator adding a new page? just update the frame that holds the menu as well and you're all good I get they were a usability/accessibility nightmare tho
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I know there was some early discussion one whether to have #include in html or not, instead you have to run a whole rear end cms if you want to update one thing on multiple pages I think a lot of it was not wanting to have circular or infinite references, something that happened frequently with frames early on
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the two big mistakes with html were telling browsers to do their best with malformed files instead of showing an error and displaying nothing, and listening to the whims of graphic designers who poo poo themselves and write five pages of javascript and css hacks if a shadow on a bevel gets anti-aliased slightly differently in two versions of the same browser
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Cold on a Cob posted:people hated frames but you could use them to put up a static website with a menu pretty easily without having to use a site generator frames were great. I get why you dont want them on big commercial sites but frames were great. like javadocs suck now that theres no frames. That poo poo worked great.
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say “great” some more, rotor
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frames were great.
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git apologist posted:it can just be files!!! *posts a bunch of shell scripts* idk I still think a single shell script that u write yourself, and a bunch of files, is morally just a bunch of files
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Dijkstracula posted:idk I still think a single shell script that u write yourself, and a bunch of files, is morally just a bunch of files agreed
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my blog is a bunch of generated static html files on a static host.
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Sweevo posted:the two big mistakes with html were telling browsers to do their best with malformed files instead of showing an error and displaying nothing, and listening to the whims of graphic designers who poo poo themselves and write five pages of javascript and css hacks if a shadow on a bevel gets anti-aliased slightly differently in two versions of the same browser this is patently false, what happened is designers asked for a bunch of common patterns and the css group recreated a bunch of sgml and framemaker features instead of letting people easily do basic layouts and display features the megabytes of hacky javascript are everyone’s fault, plenty of blame to spread around there
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flash was mostly the fault of designers, along with ad/marketing folks who say things like “delight” and “engagement”
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laughing at the idea of any 90s/00s tech company where the designers had the juice to “force” the developers to do anything, even show up to a necessary meeting, just a hilarious concept
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qirex posted:laughing at the idea of any 90s/00s tech company where the designers had the juice to “force” the developers to do anything, even show up to a necessary meeting, just a hilarious concept rounding up all the C programmers in Multimedia Gulch and forcing them to wear dunce caps in non-web colours
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the css working group was so hilariously awful. Simple loving box model? 15 years.
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reminder that IE ignored the bad box model from the start and did the correct thing but web "developers" complained and made them change it. Netscape and its descendants did early, irreparable harm to the web.
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Shaggar posted:reminder that IE ignored the bad box model from the start and did the correct thing but web "developers" complained and made them change it. web developers are smarter than you
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aight I got a hugo theme working, this one is a lot more simplistic than the last one so it's easier to figure out and modify. https://www.cosmosporia.com/ the guestbook is back, if anyone wants to try signing it : )
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I should add frames to my blog
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needs more flashing “under construction” gifs, op
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