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Mega64 posted:Considering some of the QBs he had to do that with, he definitely has a strong HoF argument. Having a ring helps too! If he were on a higher-profile team, it wouldn't even be a question
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Black Lighter posted:If he were on a higher-profile team, it wouldn't even be a question With that kind of stats and the ring, I don't think it is a question. Its just that there's a stupid logjam at WR right now for the HoF and the voters are picking away at it like they're kids staring down the pieces of broccoli left on their plate
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To be contrarion, he hits 1k every season but Evans only broke 1500 once (3rd in the league that year) and 1300 once (4th in the league). Never led the league in any stat, only a 4 time pro bowler and 1 time second team all pro. That's right, he's the Frank Gore of WRs ( I jest, but still) The problem for Evans is that Torry Holt had 1600+ yards twice, leading the league both times, 7 pro bowls, first team all pro, and still isn't in. trevorreznik fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Dec 4, 2023 |
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trevorreznik posted:To be contrarion, he hits 1k every season but Evans only broke 1500 once (3rd in the league that year) and 1300 once (4th in the league). Never led the league in any stat, only a 4 time pro bowler and 1 time second team all pro. lol but also frank gore should absolutely 100% be in the hof
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Borsche69 posted:With that kind of stats and the ring, I don't think it is a question. Its just that there's a stupid logjam at WR right now for the HoF and the voters are picking away at it like they're kids staring down the pieces of broccoli left on their plate Oh yeah, definitely. It's just that playing for TB instead of a higher-profile team is the kind of stupid thing that would put him on the wrong end of the logjam for a lot of voters.
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Borsche69 posted:lol but also frank gore should absolutely 100% be in the hof Agreed on that, consistency year in year out is just as worthy of inclusion as people like Gale Sayers with short, excellent careers.
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Borsche69 posted:lol but also frank gore should absolutely 100% be in the hof
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but yeah to your last point, the hof logjam for WRs is like, holt, steve smith, reggie wayne, andre johnson. and then down the line you'll also get julio jones, larry fitzgerald, aj green, and (if he wasnt a shithead that ruined any chance that anyone would ever vote for him) even antonio brown once all of those players become eligible. i'm probably forgetting about a couple there too (hopkins? dez? demariyus thomas?) the late 2000s and 2010s were just an explosion of wideout talent exacerbated by rule changes (for both qbs and defenses). kind of a funny observation when i pulled up that list of names - i dont think any of them have a ring other than holt lol
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Black Lighter posted:Oh yeah, definitely. It's just that playing for TB instead of a higher-profile team is the kind of stupid thing that would put him on the wrong end of the logjam for a lot of voters. Glancing at the career leaders page, Davante Adams is probably the comparable guy who might get in over Evans despite having worse numbers and coming into the league the same year. Davante has a bunch more all-pros but I'm not exactly sure why, do voters value receptions that much more?
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Borsche69 posted:lol but also frank gore should absolutely 100% be in the hof
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Black Lighter posted:Oh yeah, definitely. It's just that playing for TB instead of a higher-profile team is the kind of stupid thing that would put him on the wrong end of the logjam for a lot of voters. i get you and that's fair, but i do think he gets style points for being on the tom brady buccs which will help him in the voters eyes, since i think that couple of years pushed TB to be a more marquee team, even if they immediately dropped back down to like, jacksonville/houston/tennessee/carolina/arizona status one brady was gone. i could be way off but that was what those years felt like to me
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Thinking back on the excitement the Jets brought into the first game of the year, and where they are now. Just lol
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Hughmoris posted:Thinking back on the excitement the Jets brought into the first game of the year, and where they are now. Just lol From  to 
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trevorreznik posted:To be contrarion, he hits 1k every season but Evans only broke 1500 once (3rd in the league that year) and 1300 once (4th in the league). Never led the league in any stat, only a 4 time pro bowler and 1 time second team all pro. torry should be in the hall but so should evans
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Evans will finish his career with Mahomes and two more rings. Please.
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If they ban the tush push runs like this (which rule) would be dead right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BYeYtT3CZQ
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Kalli posted:Wow look at all these skill guys fantasy people want in the HoF instead of real football players while we're at it, reggie wayne should be in the hall too feel free to construe some argument against him
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bows1 posted:If they ban the tush push runs like this (which rule) would be dead right? Depends on if they restore the old rule or write a new one If they revert to the pre-2005 rule this would once again be included under the "Assisting The Runner" penalty, presumably assessed from when the push started like it was for the first 90 years of professional football. They like giving the offense every conceivable unfair advantage, though, so it'll probably just become a dead ball at the point of the push (opening up a whole new theater of nebulous things to screw up in replay review or referee discussion), or do their typically pedantic NFL thing where the Tush Push specifically is illegal but other forms of pushing are still totally fine.
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bows1 posted:If they ban the tush push runs like this (which rule) would be dead right? the Tush Push is highly telegraphed and the defensive line actually has a chance to stop it, instead of being completely out of the play like this one
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