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Mar 25, 2024 00:20
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What's the rationale behind all those zoom shots? Was the cinematographer someone who worked with those Japanese super hero tokusatsu series? Not complaining, mind you, but it's just something I noticed a lot.
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Mar 30, 2024 03:11
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I was expecting a much more picaresque journey so maybe we didnt need 40 minutes in the brothel. big fan of the the tilt shift environments though
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Mar 31, 2024 14:51
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I agree with everyone re: the acting and direction, but I think the movie took a different, darker direction in the last third or so than most everyone else did. For example, I didn't see the brothel interlude as the beginning of Bella's truly coming into her own, but her trading manipulations and exploitations under the guise of false enlightenment. Madam Swiney is, in her own way, every bit as exploitative and commanding as the men in Bella's life have been, and there's a bitter irony in her bold declaration to Duncan that she "owns her own means of production" when she's paying much of her profits to a brothel mistress. She performs therapy for her clients to make them better lovers, but is a gilded sexual transaction any less negotiated on patriarchal, misogynistic premises? And in the denouement, after declaring that she wishes to become a doctor and help people, her first patient is General Alfie, her mother's husband whose sadism drove her to suicide and who is so cruel and capricious with his house staff that he must carry a gun at all times to forestall revolt. She could forgive and heal him, embracing the role of doctor as society conceives it, or kill him and become a healer of society, cutting out a horrible cancer of a person who doesn't deserve his wretched life. Instead she performs an act of poetic justice that, while narratively satisfying, also cements her role as her father's daughter, defining herself by her traumatic past and resolving to continue inflicting that trauma onward. This is a triumphant act to her but it is not a triumphant act for her, the point at which she resolutely becomes the true victim of the cycle of pain that created her. I'm not saying any of this makes the movie bad, by any means, I just didn't see it in the same jubilant light of breaking free of victimhood that it seems is the prevailing opinion. In fact, I think it makes the social satire all the more biting and salient.
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Apr 1, 2024 00:37
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Putting a goat brain in in Alfie's head is much more cinematic than having Bella poison him or shoot him in the head or whatever. There's no fundamental difference between what she did and just killing him. The cancer's cut out either way.
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Apr 1, 2024 20:11
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It's more than just cinematic, that particular method clearly means something in this context, it's a deliberate choice from both Doylist and Watsonian perspectives. It's so fundamental.
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Apr 2, 2024 09:01
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McSpanky posted:It's more than just cinematic, that particular method clearly means something in this context, it's a deliberate choice from both Doylist and Watsonian perspectives. It's so fundamental.
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Apr 2, 2024 09:25
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Martman posted:It's a reference to The Lobster! Reference or not, it's clear that Yorgos simply likes it when the imaginary boundary between weird lil freak people and weird lil freak animals is obliterated
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Apr 2, 2024 09:27
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Having just finished the book, I'm in two minds about the ending. I can't imagine the back half of the written version translating to film in a satisfying or coherent manner, but it is absolutely more thematically successful, a better story, and removes any ambiguity of the blame on the men in Bella's life that the film seems to baffle people about, somehow. Highly recommended as much as the film.
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Apr 2, 2024 10:25
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McSpanky posted:It's more than just cinematic, that particular method clearly means something in this context, it's a deliberate choice from both Doylist and Watsonian perspectives. It's so fundamental. it's also really funny
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Apr 2, 2024 17:21
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Just finished watching this, great movie but somehow despite being absolutely fascinating, I ended up splitting it over two nights. Not sure if it was something about the pacing but it somehow felt longer than Oppenheimer. I read absolutely nothing about it so it was all a surprise. The premise, cinematography, costumes, crazy amount of sex, everything. Don't really feel like writin an essay on it but yeah good poo poo, loved movie. live with fruit posted:Putting a goat brain in in Alfie's head is much more cinematic than having Bella poison him or shoot him in the head or whatever. There's no fundamental difference between what she did and just killing him. The cancer's cut out either way. Did they put his brain in the goat?
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Apr 2, 2024 18:32
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They should've shown it if they had.
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Apr 2, 2024 22:11
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I wish they were more clear about that because otherwise all they're doing is torturing an innocent goat by putting them in a human body.
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Apr 2, 2024 22:13
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TheMopeSquad posted:I wish they were more clear about that because otherwise all they're doing is torturing an innocent goat by putting them in a human body. i think the idea is that Bella is continuing the cycle of abuse she suffered at the hands of Godwin Baxter et al by engaging in pointless animal cruelty to exercise some degree of power
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Apr 2, 2024 22:16
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Famethrowa posted:it's also really funny It is, but it's a pretty rough chuckle
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Apr 3, 2024 17:38
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i think the idea is that Bella is continuing the cycle of abuse she suffered at the hands of Godwin Baxter et al by engaging in pointless animal cruelty to exercise some degree of power Bella is fundamentally interested in what brings her joy regardless of what society thinks about it (which is why she's so excited at the prospect of throwing a woman overboard - regardless of the result she figures it will be pretty entertaining). Sticking a goat brain in the General's body doesn't actually harm the General in any special way, but it does make her happy to see his body debased and humiliated in such a way, since that's what he wanted to do to her. I also think it's OK that the movie is different from the book and carries a different message, which means it's interesting on its own merits and you can consume both and be surprised. Straight adaptations should never exist, because why adapt when you can just have the original?
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Apr 7, 2024 06:11
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bewilderment posted:Sticking a goat brain in the General's body doesn't actually harm the General in any special way, but it does make her happy to see his body debased and humiliated in such a way, since that's what he wanted to do to her. I'm pretty sure it kills the General.
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Apr 14, 2024 15:03
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Eating that grass is at least gonna gently caress up his teeth too, so it won't be good for his body.
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Apr 14, 2024 15:22
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