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Fuego Fish posted:I wouldn't think that something falling on you has a base damage like that. I mean, there's no accounting for size or weight whatsoever. That'd make a bucket falling from a second storey window do as much damage as a Goddamn house from the same height. Eh, I'd say if something weighs at least as much as you do, it would be the same as if you fell and hit the ground.
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greatn posted:I'll assume a d10 hit die(since it used to be a paladin, or are those d8?), and 12th level. I'll assume a 14 constitution, because why not. So, 85 hp just for a nice number. 
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greatn posted:I'll assume a d10 hit die(since it used to be a paladin, or are those d8?), and 12th level. I'll assume a 14 constitution, because why not. So, 85 hp just for a nice number. Undead universally use d12 hit dice and do not have Constitution scores  EDIT: I have an important message for poster "Volga Boatman": t 
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Volga Boatman posted:all undead use d12 for their HD and have no constitution score Oh, I thought a Death Knight would just use the same HP as the Paladin he was before he died.
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Apr 19, 2007 16:31
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I have no idea why I find 'Ellipses, really.' to be the funniest line in that comic.
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Apr 19, 2007 16:33
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Everyone is missing the most important question: does anyone get xp for the death knight biting it? 
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sakesniper posted:Everyone is missing the most important question: does anyone get xp for the death knight biting it?
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If I were GM, i would just add the death knight's XP to the party pool or split between Roy and V. But I'm a nice GM. Unless I'm running call of cthulhu. Then it's motherfucking GO TIME. I'll be surprised if Roy doesn't hack off a wing next.
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greatn posted:I think falling damage is just a base d6 per ten feet, the same for dropping something on you damage.
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I think it really had to be that way for the Death Knight. He took himself way too seriously for a OOTS villain. All reaping and death and blood, and no wacky quips or pokéballs with horses in 'em or whatever.
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Apr 19, 2007 18:42
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Rincewind posted:I think it really had to be that way for the Death Knight. He took himself way too seriously for a OOTS villain. All reaping and death and blood, and no wacky quips or pokéballs with horses in 'em or whatever. It really helped if you imagined him with the voice of Murray the Skull from Curse of Monkey Island. It made him fit in almost perfectly, since the character roles are basically identical (re: saying "I will stride through the gates of Hell with your head on a pike" in a comedy videogame).
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clockworkjoe posted:If I were GM, i would just add the death knight's XP to the party pool or split between Roy and V. But I'm a nice GM. Unless I'm running call of cthulhu. Then it's motherfucking GO TIME. He wants Xykon to land the dragon, not send it crashing to the ground.
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Apr 19, 2007 19:06
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I'm pretty sure Xykon can cast Fly anyway.
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Brannock posted:I'm pretty sure Xykon can cast Fly anyway. I bet he has Feather Fall scroll outs the wazoo.
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Apr 19, 2007 21:30
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gothfae posted:I bet he has Feather Fall scroll outs the wazoo.
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Volga Boatman posted:skeletons don't have a wazoo Out the dragon's wazoo, then.
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Volga Boatman posted:skeletons don't have a wazoo They just have a greatly expanded wazoo. And this is for those that didn't understand my reference. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0049.html
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Sock posted:He wants Xykon to land the dragon, not send it crashing to the ground. Better to crash than let him get to the throne room though. How does he expect to make Xykon land though? I don't think he has that many ranks in Intimidate.
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Heresiarch posted:It really helped if you imagined him with the voice of Murray the Skull from Curse of Monkey Island. It made him fit in almost perfectly, since the character roles are basically identical (re: saying "I will stride through the gates of Hell with your head on a pike" in a comedy videogame). Stride? I wish Xykon would get a little more animated with his speech patterns, because Murray had the greatest skeleton voice you could ask for but it just doesn't match Xykon. I imagine him talking like MST3K's Joel.
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HitTheTargets posted:Stride? Alright, roll! Must you take the fun out of everything? quote:I wish Xykon would get a little more animated with his speech patterns, because Murray had the greatest skeleton voice you could ask for but it just doesn't match Xykon. I imagine him talking like MST3K's Joel. Oh god, I just imagined the "Badass... really badass" scene as if it was spoken by Joel and somehow it works. I don't know how, but it does.
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HitTheTargets posted:Stride?
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Deus ex...corpse? I'm not impressed by this one.
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I loved this one. Aside from the fact that I think anticlimactic resolutions are under-used, it's a total D&D player joke. I can just see this around a table. The spellslinger is alone against a huge meleer, so the fighter-jock announces he's going to try and cut something off the dragon when they're right above the fight. There's a long series of arguements with the DM over aim, and zombie movements, and initiative timing and the six-second round vs real-life, and then finally it all comes down to a series of climactic rolls - Roy's player makes the attack roll, he does enough damage to hit the skeleton, he makes the funky six-kinds-of-skills-rolled-into-one check, he rolls 20d6 for Terminal Velocity falling damage, and then he just barely makes it, and the entire party erupts in cheers. Except you take this situation and Roy does it all by accident. I read this one and jumped out of my chair hollering, because Roy just kicks so much rear end (and he hasn't had enough chances to do that lately).
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Rincewind posted:I think it really had to be that way for the Death Knight. He took himself way too seriously for a OOTS villain. All reaping and death and blood, and no wacky quips or pokéballs with horses in 'em or whatever. 
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clockworkjoe posted:But I'm a nice GM. Unless I'm running call of cthulhu. Then it's motherfucking GO TIME. Try running a Call of Cthulhu/Paranoia crossover campaign. Now you can kill every single PC six times instead of just once. One I ran, Hastur got summoned into the food vats. Death toll in the jillions.
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Rincewind posted:I think it really had to be that way for the Death Knight. He took himself way too seriously for a OOTS villain. All reaping and death and blood, and no wacky quips or pokéballs with horses in 'em or whatever. Hey, villains that take themselves seriously in an incredibly vocal and dramatic manner rule. I actually disliked the black dragon the Order killed a while back in the strip because its dialogue was kind of blandly intimidating, but I was in love with the Death Knight ever since this panel (which I am reposting from my own post like four pages back): 
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Ferrinus posted:The way that cap cuts off the zombie's speech bubble makes it look like he isn't saying anything but is in fact ridiculously awed by the Death Knight's sudden outburst of overly dramatic badassness. When you can awe zombies, that's when you know you're awesome.
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Phanatic posted:Try running a Call of Cthulhu/Paranoia crossover campaign. Now you can kill every single PC six times instead of just once. Yeah, but in my serious Masks of Nyarlathotep campaign, I think I killed/drove insane about 20 player characters from a group of about 5 regular players. Not higher numbers, but they were quality kills. clockworkjoe fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Apr 20, 2007 |
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New strip is up very early. Go read and weep that thats it till monday.
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 NEW STRIP UP Unfortunately for Roy, it looks like Xykon can fly under his own power after all. And drat, how many swings did Roy take before he finally put a crack in Xykon's skull?
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That has to be one of the lamest hero vs villain discussions of all time. I hope someone stops that dang lich before he reaches the throne room.
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Lurdiak posted:I hope someone stops that dang lich before he reaches the throne room. The only people I can think of that's still in the castle is the old guy that refused to fight. I think some people were speculating whether or not he was Haley's father. Everyone's else tied up except for V who is low on spells and beat up. He'll probably be able to save Roy, but Xykon has a big head start. I'm betting Monday's strip is going to be loving big.
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Spaz mk. 2.0 posted:
Holy poo poo. I was getting worried that Xykon was being characterized as just too dumb/absent-minded/apathetic for this entire battle but then he goes and does that. This is awesome.
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NAh, not Haley's father. That was dismissed rather quickly haley's father is being held in Tyrannica or soemthing by somebody. Likely Elan's dad.
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Isn't Elan's dad a warlord? From what I remember of the Elan/Nale storyline, Elan was raised by the mother, and Nale by the father.
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Spaz mk. 2.0 posted:
Booty talisman time, I think.
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cultureulterior posted:Booty talisman time, I think. That's what I'm expecting, but I think it'd actually be cool if Roy died. Obviously, he'd get resurrected as the result of a later plotline - he's one of my favorite characters, I wouldn't want him gone. But in the meantime we could get a neat story about him in the afterlife and see how the rest of the Order gets along without Roy around to shepherd them.
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Brannock posted:Isn't Elan's dad a warlord? From what I remember of the Elan/Nale storyline, Elan was raised by the mother, and Nale by the father. What I mean to say is I think Elan's dad the evil warlord is the one who rules the country which has Haley's dad hostage.
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Ferrinus posted:Holy poo poo. I was getting worried that Xykon was being characterized as just too dumb/absent-minded/apathetic for this entire battle but then he goes and does that. This is awesome. I think he is rather apathetic, but you only put up with a mosquito for so long until you meteo.. I mean swat it. He's one of those villains that hasn't had a challenge in forever, so it's all kind of going through the motions. As far as lame Hero vrs. Villain discussions... I've had this same discussion in games with PC's as a GM, when their woefully underpowered PC's caught up with the main baddy way too early in the plot, and the PC's thinking 'Hey, we're PC's we got big Dicks' weren't expecting to be dumped on their rear end like they dump kobolds. "Hey! I died!" "He's an epic level Blackguard, what were you thinking?" "But, I died!?"
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Yeah, as a PC I once got our party to attack an Arch-Lich. To be fair, I DID NOT KNOW he was an Arch Lich, and thought he was a regular Lich, which we had defeated before, and I was a Paladin with a really powerful holy avenger sword which I had not had the last time I killed a lich. Also the lich referred to himself as a son of a lich. So I thought "He must be weaker than a normal lich" even though that makes no sense. No, he was an Arch-Lich, crowned prince of the undead kingdom we were currently in. Total party wipe in two rounds. Except for one guy who managed to teleport out.
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