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Registered Corn Owner posted:What is the Inverse Ninja Law? 20 ninjas are little more than drooling idiots. One ninja is an unstoppable force of nature.
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quote:The Inverse Ninja Law states that the effectiveness of a group of villains is inversely proportional to the number of villains in the group. While a single enemy is often portrayed as a significant threat to the protagonists, a large group of enemies are significantly less of a threat, and as such are easily defeated.
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May 18, 2007 00:51
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Quarex posted:I suppose it makes sense to show what happens to the clone-Xykons before going back to show what happened to the real one, so that means there is probably another intermediate-strip in store (showing what happened with the hobgoblin overrun? Maybe a cut back to the nobles on the ship?) before showing, hmm, apparently Belkar dealing with the last clone. Actually, with this strip, all three of the Xykon clones have been dealt with in one way or another. Belkar is using the eye of fear and flame as a wand, the death knight got crushed by the falling dragon head, and Durkon just whacked the last one.
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May 18, 2007 02:38
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Wanderer posted:Actually, with this strip, all three of the Xykon clones have been dealt with in one way or another. Belkar is using the eye of fear and flame as a wand, the death knight got crushed by the falling dragon head, and Durkon just whacked the last one. OH CRAP! I forgot all about the death knight's defeat at the "hand" of the falling dragon head. Granted, he could have survived, but I admit that was not at all my train of thought. Huh, that might mean the next strip goes back to ENDGAME for Xykon and the Sapphire Guard.
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May 18, 2007 03:49
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Quarex posted:OH CRAP! I forgot all about the death knight's defeat at the "hand" of the falling dragon head. Granted, he could have survived, but I admit that was not at all my train of thought. He had the X's for eyes, he's toast.
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May 18, 2007 03:55
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Cowcaster posted:He had the X's for eyes, he's toast. I'm not big on D&D rules, so I'm curious... Something living dies, it can be raised or turned undead. Something undead dies, can it be raised/etc(outside of special cases like Xykon's phylactery)?
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May 18, 2007 04:03
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Wolfsheim posted:I'm not big on D&D rules, so I'm curious... No, it's usually perma-dead at that point, provided it's something like the typical zombie.
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May 18, 2007 04:07
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Idran posted:Yeah, but all the planes also belong to gods. Even with just core, Hextor's in Baator and Erythnul's in the Abyss. Gehreleths are a type of yugoloth I believe and Hordelings are way too varied and random to be a part of any other species.
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May 18, 2007 04:29
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Hedgehog King posted:No, it's usually perma-dead at that point, provided it's something like the typical zombie. There's a spell in Libris Mortis that actually lets you raise the 'inactive' undead (read, destroyed), Revive Undead, it's a 6th level Sorc/Wiz spell though, so not something Redcloak could cast, and I doubt Xykon would care.
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Gassire posted:Gehreleths are a type of yugoloth I believe and Hordelings are way too varied and random to be a part of any other species. Gehreleths are really weird too, there's just three types of them and at least according to most planar legends there's always 9999 Gehreleths around, if you kill one another is instantly created to take it's place.
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May 18, 2007 08:35
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Volga Boatman posted:Nope, Gehreleths were created by one of those "Superloths" (I can't remember what they were called) who created the Yugoloths too but are a distinct race of their own. Hordlings are a race too although a very varied one. At least according to 2nd ed blood war books there are five true fiendish races: Tan'arri, Baatezu, Yugoloths, Gehreleths and Hordlings, no other species native to lower planes count as fiends. Ultroloth, is the term you're thinking of. Apomps in this case was the Ultroloth that created the gehreleths, though he was kicked out of the race after that, so he's not technically an ultroloth anymore I believe. And also, you're forgetting the Baatorians. The Baatezu might be considered true fiends by people nowadays, but if they are, then the Baatorians have to be considered among that number too. They're not completely extinct, after all. Even if you're not counting nupperibos, there's still the occasional baatorian lurking around now and again. That light/energy-sucking being in the cave in one of the middle layers of Baator, for example.
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May 18, 2007 11:09
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Idran posted:Ultroloth, is the term you're thinking of. Apomps in this case was the Ultroloth that created the gehreleths, though he was kicked out of the race after that, so he's not technically an ultroloth anymore I believe. Are you sure you arn't thinking of Baernaloths? They're the people that created the Yugoloths.
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May 19, 2007 00:18
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Schwarzwald posted:Are you sure you arn't thinking of Baernaloths? They're the people that created the Yugoloths. Oh, wait, you're right, it is Baernaloths. I always mix those two up.
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May 19, 2007 01:12
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New Strip is up! http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0454.html 
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May 19, 2007 22:10
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Refried Hero posted:New Strip is up! Ooh, this is a sticky situation. I bet it won't be resolved until next Friday; next two panels are gonna be Redcloak ravaging the city and Xykon fighting the Ghost-Martyrs. Is it me or is Burlew starting to consistently post on Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday?
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May 19, 2007 22:18
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Brannock posted:Ooh, this is a sticky situation. I bet it won't be resolved until next Friday; next two panels are gonna be Redcloak ravaging the city and Xykon fighting the Ghost-Martyrs. I call Belkar showing up to deal with the goblin masses.
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May 19, 2007 22:29
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Archyduke posted:I call Belkar showing up to deal with the goblin masses. Belkar can'tt do anything about about the Hobgoblin Masses when he's inside the confines of the city, without invoking the curse, though. If he can attack them from outside the city, though...
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May 19, 2007 22:54
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And he can, because he has the eye of fear and flame's head.
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May 19, 2007 22:58
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Which will be completely useless once Redcloak rebukes it into next week.
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May 20, 2007 00:43
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Assuming Redcloak heads back outside the city to do it.
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May 20, 2007 02:10
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I was reading through the books again and came across one of Burlew's notes where he says that sometimes he has plot points happen solely to explain away reasons why the party can't use certain strategies later on(in this case V not having Fly so that later they can't easily escape the wall of ice), and something occured to me. Theoretically, couldn't a high level fighter with greatsword specialization, a +5 Greatsword, and Great Cleave hold that breach against some piddly hobgoblins indefinitely? Or at least until the fiendish mastodon showed up? Only so many could fit through each round, and any that didn't die to Attacks of Opportunity would be slaughtered with one attack+cleave on Roy's turn.
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May 20, 2007 02:20
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Maldraedior posted:I was reading through the books again and came across one of Burlew's notes where he says that sometimes he has plot points happen solely to explain away reasons why the party can't use certain strategies later on(in this case V not having Fly so that later they can't easily escape the wall of ice), and something occured to me. Theoretically, couldn't a high level fighter with greatsword specialization, a +5 Greatsword, and Great Cleave hold that breach against some piddly hobgoblins indefinitely? Or at least until the fiendish mastodon showed up? Only so many could fit through each round, and any that didn't die to Attacks of Opportunity would be slaughtered with one attack+cleave on Roy's turn. I think you answered your own question there. Once the enemy forces saw that one guy was killing all the 1st level warrior hobgoblins charging into the breach, they'd send something more powerful there to take him out. Even if they lacked that, they could simply have their archers shoot him until he turned into a pincushion. Even if they had to rely exclusively on critical hits they'd wear him out eventually since he wouldn't be able to move away from his position.
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May 20, 2007 02:34
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Well they essentially did that. V buffed the hell out of those level 5 warriors and they held the breech until the death knight plowed through them. Different build, but same basic concept.
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May 20, 2007 02:52
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Brannock posted:Ooh, this is a sticky situation. I bet it won't be resolved until next Friday; next two panels are gonna be Redcloak ravaging the city and Xykon fighting the Ghost-Martyrs.
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May 20, 2007 04:51
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Factor_VIII posted:I think you answered your own question there. Once the enemy forces saw that one guy was killing all the 1st level warrior hobgoblins charging into the breach, they'd send something more powerful there to take him out. Even if they lacked that, they could simply have their archers shoot him until he turned into a pincushion. Even if they had to rely exclusively on critical hits they'd wear him out eventually since he wouldn't be able to move away from his position. Assuming he rolled well, wouldn't Roy great cleave through everyone since it is an additional attack, thereby not allowing the archers to try and hit him? I haven't played in a while so I may be incorrect
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May 20, 2007 05:02
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Arctic Baldwin posted:Assuming he rolled well, wouldn't Roy great cleave through everyone since it is an additional attack, thereby not allowing the archers to try and hit him? I haven't played in a while so I may be incorrect No, you can't move before a cleave attack, although there are some class features that let you make your 5 foot step and then attack them, so the most you can kill in a turn without a reach weapon is 14. If the archers stand even 10 feet away you're hosed.
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May 20, 2007 05:19
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Aw, poor Haley. Was anyone else reminded of the shoot-the-dragon scene from Pratchett's Guards! Guards!?
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May 20, 2007 05:28
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Maldraedior posted:Theoretically, couldn't a high level fighter with greatsword specialization, a +5 Greatsword, and Great Cleave hold that breach against some piddly hobgoblins indefinitely? Or at least until the fiendish mastodon showed up? Only so many could fit through each round, and any that didn't die to Attacks of Opportunity would be slaughtered with one attack+cleave on Roy's turn. Actually, the only way that Roy would get an attack of opportunity against a charging hobgoblin is if V enlarged him or if he had two of my favorite feats in the game, Combat Reflexes and Hold the Line. Having Hold the Line and high Dexterity (which Roy doesn't seem to have; if you look at how he behaves throughout the strip, Dexterity and Charisma seem to be Roy's dump stats) generally does mean you're death on two legs in situations like this one.
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May 20, 2007 06:35
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Wanderer posted:Actually, the only way that Roy would get an attack of opportunity against a charging hobgoblin is if V enlarged him or if he had two of my favorite feats in the game, Combat Reflexes and Hold the Line. Having Hold the Line and high Dexterity (which Roy doesn't seem to have; if you look at how he behaves throughout the strip, Dexterity and Charisma seem to be Roy's dump stats) generally does mean you're death on two legs in situations like this one. With Hold the Line and Combat Reflexes, does this mean that you'd get an AoO any time something came into and left a threatened square? A DM Friend of mine said that that wouldn't work for some demented reason, but I think that's because he didn't want my Barbarian with Instantaneous Rage and a Maul to be able to annihilate any charging foes that he threw at me.
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May 20, 2007 06:45
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Parahexavoctal posted:Aw, poor Haley. It's a million to one chance. But it just might work.
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May 20, 2007 09:23
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Nosy_G posted:It's a million to one chance. 1,000,000 to 1 chance should always work. Snacks and Violence fucked around with this message at 13:00 on May 20, 2007 |
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May 20, 2007 12:52
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To quote Pratchett (I think): "Everyone knows that million to one chances happen nine times out of ten"
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Ergo, it wasn't a million-to-one chance. She should have: *shut one eye. *unbraided her hair, so that it whipped stingingly into her face <OMT> *Had Durkon tickle her. *Had Elan, uh, "snuggle" her. Also: Wow, those Azure City defenders aren't too bright. "Well, looks like they breached the outer wall. I guess we'll just stand around in this courtyard and fight 10,000 Hobgoblins hand-to-hand. I mean, it isn't like there's a fifty-foot stone wall with one gate that we could retreat into, right? Robot Bastard fucked around with this message at 19:13 on May 20, 2007 |
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May 20, 2007 19:09
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Robot Bastard posted:Ergo, it wasn't a million-to-one chance. Because they couldn't open the gate without also letting the Hobgoblins in.
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May 20, 2007 20:16
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Uh, new Erfworld up, if you're into that. I thought it was pretty okay, but that may just be because (A)it moved the story away from the creepy dominatrix character, and (B)I love to see good guys getting their poo poo ruined by rear end in a top hat jerks.
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May 20, 2007 20:26
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Leroy Jenkins eh. I get it, the joke is that he's a big fat nerd so this is funny to him, but still.
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May 20, 2007 20:36
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Lurdiak posted:Leroy Jenkins eh. I get it, the joke is that he's a big fat nerd so this is funny to him, but still. Now, I'm okay with the occasional riff in the background(*), but having it be so obvious is a bit much. I mean, okay, the one warlord who got killed real fast is named "Leeeeroy", haha we all get it. Now the guy's giving it multiple panels? Come on. (*) although not that much, because it horribly dates the piece. I'll bet there are already people who don't know what Domo-kun is, for example. However, it doesn't matter so much in something like a web-only comic; I consider that to be basically throwaway fluff. Endrite posted:Because they couldn't open the gate without also letting the Hobgoblins in. Really, what Azure City needs is a competent field commander standing up in the tower and watching what's going on. Wolf Boy is doing his city a disservice by mixing it up on the ramparts; this is a battle, not a street fight.
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May 20, 2007 21:12
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Robot Bastard posted:Really, what Azure City needs is a competent field commander standing up in the tower and watching what's going on. Wolf Boy is doing his city a disservice by mixing it up on the ramparts; this is a battle, not a street fight. This never could have happened if Shojo was still around. 
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May 21, 2007 01:20
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Robot Bastard posted:<OMT>
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FMguru posted:Another Diana Wynne Jones fan heard from!
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