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Schwarzwald posted:It has to do with limited spell casts per day. I can understand understand why a wizard who has to prepair each individual spell has a limit on how many he can cast per day, but why does a cleric? 1. Game balance is enough of a reason. 2. Channeling Divine power isn't easy. The God in question probably doesn't want his cleric burned to a cinder by an overload of raw divinity. You get what you can handle. 3. Clerics memorizing spells is a little weird. So get the new Unearthed Arcana, and I mean right now. The spell points variant makes so much more sense for clerics. I also endorse the class defense bonus variant.
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Gassire posted:It's nice they added some variety to classes but there has to be something like 500 from official sources alone, and they made it so casters pretty much have to take one to stay effective in most groups.
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May 25, 2007 23:44
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Wanderer posted:I'll say it again for the grins: why do people keep talking about second-edition monks? Monk was not a class in second edition. While this is a whole different level of nerd, I do feel the need to point out that an "Official" D&D product using 2nd edition rules (Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal) included Barbarians and Monks. Now, there may have never been real versions of these characters released for the table-top version, but they definitely were there and with 2nd edition rules.
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Quarex posted:While this is a whole different level of nerd, I do feel the need to point out that an "Official" D&D product using 2nd edition rules (Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal) included Barbarians and Monks. Now, there may have never been real versions of these characters released for the table-top version, but they definitely were there and with 2nd edition rules. There was also a Complete Barbarian's Handbook with a number of kits to modify existing classes into barbarian versions. I'm pretty sure the Cleric's handbook had a monk kit, but that was just a cleric variant using unarmed attacks. This is just from memory; those books are in storage and I haven't read them in at least 7 years, so I may be off on the monk memory, but I'm certain about the Barbarian Handbook.
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May 26, 2007 17:59
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Hey, the new strip's up.
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May 26, 2007 18:34
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Xykon didn't just totally conduct a job interview in the middle of a battle, he totally took the time to write out a note to make sure Redcloak was aware of this fact in the middle of a battle as well 
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May 26, 2007 18:45
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Holy poo poo. I guess the Titanium Elemental wasn't just a one-time trick. "Astatine Elemental, kill all... gently caress! Okay, let's try again. Astatine Elem.... drat! Asta.... oh, hell with it. Plutonium Elemental."
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May 26, 2007 19:03
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Think she'll survive? I don't know if MTs have the tools to beat off death gas. If it kills her it gives more plausibility to a rift forming between Xykon and Redcloak and them splitting up.
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May 26, 2007 19:25
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May 26, 2007 20:20
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It's ok i'm sure they'll buddy up again once they clear the throne room.
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May 26, 2007 20:34
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Efreet saiid posted:It's ok i'm sure they'll buddy up again once they clear the throne room. Oh yeah and only reinforce how totally overpowered they are  god why did they even make "Xykon" a playable character class
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May 26, 2007 21:06
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Ferrinus posted:Oh yeah and only reinforce how totally overpowered they are Sorcerer's aren't really that powerful compared to other spellcasting classes. Hell, I'm pretty sure there's a good reason V was split from the rest of the Order before he showed up. One disintegrate is all it would take to take him down what with his low Fortitude and lack of any constitution.
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May 27, 2007 01:16
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She deserved it.  Though it does seem a little odd that Redcloak would basically sentence her to death right after having a change of heart about letting the Hobgoblins sacrifice themselves just because he's irritated about having to do paperwork.
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May 27, 2007 01:53
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Women's Rights? posted:She deserved it. Redcloak does still have his hate on for humans though, and I guess he hates them enough he doesn't want to be working with one or something.
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May 27, 2007 02:08
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tsob posted:Redcloak does still have his hate on for humans though, and I guess he hates them enough he doesn't want to be working with one or something. Yeah, it did seem a weird shift, but then I realized that there don't actually appear to be any humans (well, flesh and living status intact anyway) among Team Evil. And he could probably care less what some puny theurge would add to his already overwhelming forces. Of course, that could all change depending on how effectively Xykon is dealing with the ghost martyrs at the moment.
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Yeah he specfically mentioned that hating other species is ok, and everybody hates mystic theurges anyway. They would be pretty useful in a war, though.Ferrinus posted:Oh yeah and only reinforce how totally overpowered they are In fact I wouldn't be suprised if Xykon has a chat with him afterwards or during, kind of like he did with roy. In fact the more I think about it the more I wonder if Xykon's CHA is a big factor in the creation of his personality. He has this kind of flippant approach to things but still manages to comunicate well with people despite being kind of a ditz. He's an interesting take on a master'mind', and it makes more sense for him to be kinda of evil overlord-ey than somebody who's supposedly really smart or wise. Efreet saiid fucked around with this message at 07:53 on May 27, 2007 |
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May 27, 2007 07:50
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Efreet saiid posted:everybody hates mystic theurges anyway. They would be pretty useful in a war, though. What exactly can they do then out of interest?
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tsob posted:What exactly can they do then out of interest? Being a mystic theurge means you can cast both arcane spells and divine spells. Other class features (turning/rebuking, wizard's familiar) don't progress with mystic theurge levels, so those features suck compared to those of a pure caster of equal level, and their spells are less effective because they have to multi-class. They'd be good in a war because they have both their divine- and arcane-class spell slots, so they can kill tons of low-level units and still have their divine spells saved up for support. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rs/20030402a
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Efreet saiid posted:In fact I wouldn't be suprised if Xykon has a chat with him afterwards or during, kind of like he did with roy. In fact the more I think about it the more I wonder if Xykon's CHA is a big factor in the creation of his personality. He has this kind of flippant approach to things but still manages to comunicate well with people despite being kind of a ditz. He's an interesting take on a master'mind', and it makes more sense for him to be kinda of evil overlord-ey than somebody who's supposedly really smart or wise. That's a neat thought, and it makes sense since a sorcerer's key stat is CHA. He's almost an Elan with brains.
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Efreet saiid posted:Yeah he specfically mentioned that hating other species is ok, and everybody hates mystic theurges anyway. They would be pretty useful in a war, though. Now, wouldn't it be surprising if the Ghost Martyrs defeat Xykon, leaving Redcloak as the major villian?
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Rincewind posted:Now, wouldn't it be surprising if the Ghost Martyrs defeat Xykon, leaving Redcloak as the major villian? Xykon still has his phylacricy (sp) so he'd be fine. Unless the ghosts pulled some sort of mad stunt.
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Affi posted:Xykon still has his phylacricy (sp) so he'd be fine. Unless the ghosts pulled some sort of mad stunt. His what? 
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Fuego Fish posted:His what? His tefillin.
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That would be pretty hilarious if Xykon ended up getting annihilated by the ghost martyrs; sure, he still has his phylactery, but considering the continually growing rift between Redcloak and Xykon, and that Redcloak has the phylactery as I recall, well, that might not be much of an obstacle. However, it seems particularly unlikely that the ostensible main villain of the entire strip would be killed off by comparatively minor sub-protagonists. So even if that did happen, he would clearly come back. Fuego Fish posted:His what? I burn one blood for a Phylacricy preempt action.
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Quarex posted:However, it seems particularly unlikely that the ostensible main villain of the entire strip would be killed off by comparatively minor sub-protagonists. So even if that did happen, he would clearly come back. I think it's likely that they'll end up hurting him though, otherwise there wouldn't have been any reason for that plot point to exist in the first place. I'm half expecting Redcloak to bust in on a bunch of ghost paladins and Xykon in a roughly-evenly-matched battle and decide to just kill them all. The phrase "ghost paladins" is pretty neat.
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Moshmo posted:New Strip Up He needs to go ahead and change the strip schedule to tuesday thursday and saturday. Then we can get the strips a day late and be back to our normal monday wednesday friday schedule. Did anyone catch the strip before the site went down and mirror it?
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greatn posted:He needs to go ahead and change the strip schedule to tuesday thursday and saturday. Then we can get the strips a day late and be back to our normal monday wednesday friday schedule. Did anyone catch the strip before the site went down and mirror it? You forgot a day. I also caught the update immediately but it was already down by the time I clicked the link.
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So I guess they are leaving Thog in that leprechaun outfit. Huh.
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farraday posted:You forgot a day. I assume he would skip Sunday, because gently caress it, it's Sunday. Edit: Finally got through. Glad to see the brotherhood of evil escape, but I hope now we can finally go back to the battle we REALLY wanted to see. greatn fucked around with this message at 20:15 on May 29, 2007 |
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greatn posted:I assume he would skip Sunday, because gently caress it, it's Sunday. poo poo, what are us heathens going to do for entertainment then other then have wild crazy sex? drat you Bgaesop! Just before I posted a waffleimage you have to go and be a better person then me. Also, love the reference to Holy Grail. farraday fucked around with this message at 20:20 on May 29, 2007 |
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farraday posted:poo poo, what are us heathens going to do for entertainment then other then have wild crazy sex? I'll have you know I'm a heathen and I have perfectly normal, conservative sex, thank you very much. As a matter of fact, my girlfriend hates it. So there.
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The Oldest Man posted:So I guess they are leaving Thog in that leprechaun outfit. Huh.
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May 29, 2007 20:56
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Sock posted:Does "Shout" do some of that weird sonic damage that hurts everything? Off the top of my head, it seems likely, as I remember thinking "Great Shout" was such an awesome spell that it almost made getting 6th level Bard spells seem worthwhile. I guess that spell line must be in-class for more normal arcane casters, too, though. And while I hardly expected the Linear Guild to be successfully imprisoned, I think it would be nice if they did something other than get away through another wacky series of coincidences. I hoped they would be sprung by Xykon at least.
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Forget this gates crap and all these lame PCs, Thog is who the comic should be about
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This strip was wonderfully meta. Nale decided not to intefere (the realistic option) because he knows the genre conventions (and prefers the dramatic option). Only in The Order of the Stick could this become good writing.
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Tsukiko beat the odds and survived too. Anyone want to bet how long her good fortune lasts?
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