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inolen posted:you can't do half as much on a trials bike, so I'd choose a streetbike over it any day. Inolen, I've actually kind of been on your side for this whole thing. Stunting is pretty fun to watch, and even if you don't like it who cares what other people choose to do with their time. You don't talk like an idiot and defend yourself intelligently and I don't really understand what everyone's problem is with you, but you really can't believe this ^^. I've watched quite a few stunting videos and over the last week or so watched a ton of trials videos and I really think saying you can do more on a street bike is wrong. Yes you can't do anything that involves sitting on the bike on a trials, but I'd think the ability to jump the bike alone offers a lot more options as far as tricks go. What makes you think differently?
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I think Phat_Albert needs to separate what he doesn't like with what takes skill. Obviously, lots of stunting stuff takes lots of practice skill, but a lot of people think it's fairly stupid/boring to watch. The stunting scene seems to follow the lines of the drifting scene. The whole culture around the activity is so loving retarded that it's hard to appreciate the skill involved. To someone like myself, most stunting tricks look the same, and frankly after you've seen 10 minutes of it there doesn't seem to be much original about it. Inolen on the other hand is completely oblivious to the vast differences between stunting and trials riding. I doubt any stunter expert could start balancing the bike, track standing, or riding over/on obstacles. It really is an apples to oranges comparison. Personally, I find watching the stuff that the guys do on trials bikes to be far more interesting/fun to watch then the stunt stuff. The slow speed stunt stuff sort of reminds me of bike ballet. Remember ski ballet back in the 80s (it was actually in the olympics for a short period)? Stunting is sort of the motorcycle equivalent of that for my tastes. While we're at it we should get the libertarians to debate with the socialists what is better.
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pr0zac posted:Inolen, I've actually kind of been on your side for this whole thing. Stunting is pretty fun to watch, and even if you don't like it who cares what other people choose to do with their time. You don't talk like an idiot and defend yourself intelligently and I don't really understand what everyone's problem is with you, but you really can't believe this ^^. I've watched quite a few stunting videos and over the last week or so watched a ton of trials videos and I really think saying you can do more on a street bike is wrong. Yes you can't do anything that involves sitting on the bike on a trials, but I'd think the ability to jump the bike alone offers a lot more options as far as tricks go. What makes you think differently? Well, they are two different types of riding. Trials bikes are made for navigating terrain and most of the stunts in that video involve doing so, where as most of the stunts on a street bike are independent of your surrounding terrain. There is still some fun to have from using your terrain while stunting a sportbike, it just takes a long time to get to that skill level. For example, I love clutching up a seat stander and jumping and running along the side of an 18 wheeler or wall, or pulling in my clutch and coming to a stop in the middle of a seat stander and then hopping onto the back seat of someone at the spot, or stalling a wheelie onto a wall and then pulling back off of it and continuing on, etc. But I can't do an endo down a narrow ledge and whip a fast 180 and land on the ground 5 ft below the ledge or bunny hop up a section of rocks/ledges, it's just not going to happen. With that said, trials bikes can't even begin to compete with the amount of set stunts you can do on a streetbike. There is no tank or tail for acrobatic tricks, that takes away pretty much every acrobatic trick people do on streetbikes (christs, switchback christs, acid drops, rear skitches, gorilla rolls, spinderellas, leap of faiths, deactivators, etc.). You might be able to do a side skitch, that's about it. The lack of tank, sturdy rear tail, and rear pegs takes away from all sorts of basic wheelies (sitdown, staggered, foot in seat, seat stander, highchairs, spreaders, boston stranglers, frogs, 50/50, can cans, nac nacs, ralph louies, etc.). Having these types of wheelies provides endless amounts of circle combos, straight line combos, figure 8 combos, circle variations like 50/50 foot drag circles, frog foot drag circles, blindside variations, stall outs and merk step variations (running behind the bike and then say jumping up to highchair) and more. There is so much to do on a sportbike, I'm sure I could write another few paragraphs, people just don't realize it until they become involved in it. Not to mention, the danger! I love coming in on the limiter in 1st in seat stander, dragging my foot, coasting into a scrape and then jumping to 50/50 while still coasting and then dropping the clutch on the way down and flying back off into some more combos at 30-40 mph. Or coming in at 20mph or so and scraping a frog and doing a deactivator (hopping off the bike) and landing in a back skitch. So much fun! inolen fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jul 11, 2007 |
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Hey guys wasn't it cool when this was a "picture/video thread" and not a "lets argue about who's sport is the least gay thread"? Anybody got a wallpaper sized picture of the new Ducati Hypermoto? That bike is hot as all hell. 
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Sure, more pictures. Nick Apex at the XDL U.S. Open in Long Beach this past weekend. inolen fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Jul 11, 2007 |
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dfn_doe posted:Hey guys wasn't it cool when this was a "picture/video thread" and not a "lets argue about who's sport is the least gay thread"?
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dfn_doe posted:Hey guys wasn't it cool when this was a "picture/video thread" and not a "lets argue about who's sport is the least gay thread"? If you go here, you can download the various different resolutions of pics of almost all their bikes.
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inolen posted:For example, I love clutching up a seat stander and jumping and running along the side of an 18 wheeler
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Mapless posted:But like you said, you of course only do this poo poo in parking lots and not on public roads. I don't know if you're being sarcastic or what, but most of the lots we practice in are full of 18 wheeler trailers. I'm not about to try to run alongside a moving trailer at 70 mph. inolen fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jul 11, 2007 |
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inolen posted:I don't know if you're being sarcastic or what, but most of the lots we practice in are full of 18 wheeler trailers.. I was, but if that's what you meant then disregard what I said. Edit: It sounded like you were talking about running alongside one on the highway. Getting upset at stunters for practicing in parking lots (with proper approval) is like throwing fits at auto-x guys or sportbikers on trackdays. All too often it's the douchebags on the highways that cause the problems for us all (and it's actually THOSE guys that I get so up in arms about, not the people who TRULY and honestly keep it off the street).
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inolen posted:I don't know if you're being sarcastic or what, but most of the lots we practice in are full of 18 wheeler trailers. I'm not about to try to run alongside a moving trailer at 70 mph. haha, I knew what you were implying, but that would be pretty funny to see.
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open24hours posted:Looks like some girl posing.. blah. This girl has been at it a while, but she has never pushed herself very hard. We've been riding together for the past few months and she's finally been pushing herself and it's starting to show. A few weekends ago she did her first few legit scrapes (i.e. not wrecking), check it:  Pretty bad rear end for a tiny girl who weighs all of 100 lbs. inolen fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Jul 16, 2007 |
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I think it's real, I got it from this thread. Stunting looks pretty fun really. Maybe I'll buy a fiddy, as there's no way I can afford to do it on a sport bike.
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Mapless posted:I was, but if that's what you meant then disregard what I said. Edit: It sounded like you were talking about running alongside one on the highway. And of course, guys like this. There isnt a big enough rolleyes for this image.
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Phat_Albert posted:And of course, guys like this. There isnt a big enough rolleyes for this image. Wow, thats absolutely ridiculous. Why are people so dumb?
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Kruzen posted:Why are people so dumb? So you don't have to feel guilty when they die.
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Phat_Albert posted:And of course, guys like this. There isnt a big enough rolleyes for this image. He looks pretty ghey anyways. 
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This is the first video I've seen of the new Triumph Street Triple
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God I want that bike so bad. Must graduate college so I can make money!
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orinth posted:stoppie in the snow! thats not really snow, thats a lake. He must have studded tires.... the guy I bought my SV from had two ice racers with studded tires.. I guess they make race courses on frozen lakes here in Wisconsin and go nuts on them.
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Accordinspire posted:Thank you.
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Jul 13, 2007 22:16
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107 hp /51 lb.-ft. 368 lb. dry weight 
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Can someone post that series of pictures of a guy on a big cruiser going down at Deal's Gap. It looks like he scrapes something and over corrects. It was turned into a 5 or 6 frame animated gif.
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 Wish I'd have noticed my tire was so flat, I was having a hard time keeping circles leaned in that day.
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Stolen from a GBS thread.
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Doctor Zero posted:Stolen from a GBS thread. spacepirate fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Jul 19, 2007 |
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rope kid posted:yes Wait, what? Is that yours? Wait, what? More?
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rope kid posted:yes Now that's a beautiful bike. More info?
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Sloppy posted:Now that's a beautiful bike. More info? http://www.terramostro.com/ Engine Type L twin cylinder, 2 valve per cylinder Desmodromic, air cooled Displacement 695 cc Bore x Stroke 88 x 57.2 mm Compression Ratio 10.5:1 Power 53.7 kW - 73 HP @ 8500 rpm Torque 61 Nm - 6,2 Kgm @ 6750 rpm Fuel injection Marelli electronic fuel injection, 45 mm throttle body Exhaust 2 into 1US Forest Service Approved Spark Arrestor Transmission Gearbox 6-speed Ratio 1st 32/13, 2nd 30/18, 3rd 28/21, 4th 26/23, 5th 22/22, 6th 24/26 Primary drive Straight cut gears; Ratio 1.85 Final drive Chain Clutch APTC wet multiplate with hydraulic control Chassis Frame Tubular steel trellis frame Wheelbase 61.5 inches Rake 26° Front suspension - conventional cartridge fully adjustable Front wheel travel - 8.12 inches Front Wheel - 21 inch Rear wheel travel - 8.12 inches Rear wheel - 18 inch Front brake Brembo 300 mm disc, 2-piston caliper Rear brakeBrembo 245 mm disc, 2-piston caliper Fuel tank capacity 14 l (of which 3 l reserve) / 3.6 US gal (of which 0.8 US gal reserve) Estimated fuel mileage - 50 mpg Dry weight 168 Kg / 370 lbs - 395 wet Seat height 33.75 -34.75 depending on seat option Price - $16,390 Options include : seats, offroad lighting, handle bars and risers, windsreen, etc.
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The Terra Mostro is cool, but not $16,390 cool.
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drat some of the poo poo he does is goddamn amazing.
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bung posted:The Terra Mostro is cool, but not $16,390 cool.
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Pictures... Me at the track on the 929:  On a friend's SV at buttonwillow (my bike spun a bearing 2 days before  )http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbZObO7eYeI I'll dig some more up later.
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RealDealNamowicz posted:drat some of the poo poo he does is goddamn amazing. I like the flinch the guy on the ground does when he skids the bike to within this || close. Like, I trust you man, but I loving felt that one!
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GAHK! Edit: A guy on the Ninja 650 forums was riding at night in the prarie. http://www.ninja650.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=8175 Retarted Pimple fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Jul 22, 2007 |
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Hahahahahaha, what the gently caress!? Backstory please.
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