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They've hinted a couple times that Roy and his sister had another sibling, but I just kind figured that the kid never amounted to much. I can't imagine a worse purgatory than being stuck around age 4-8 for eternity. Then again, when I was 4 to 8 years old, Lego was amazingly captivating. I can only imagine that Heaven's Lego always has the right piece for whatever you're building, and you never step on those pieces either, or have your folks throw them away. The text in this comic makes sound an awful lot like Eugene was responsible for what happened to the middle child, but that Roy blames himself for it. Echoing the  aspect of this strip. Sweet Zombie Jeebus, that's sad.
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Oct 18, 2007 23:34
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Looking at the forums, apparently this heretofore unseen baby brother is there to address a continuity error or something. In this strip: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0113.html ...there's a baby hanging out by Roy's mom, who I guess this baby brother is supposed to be.
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Oct 18, 2007 23:52
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Wanderer posted:Looking at the forums, apparently this heretofore unseen baby brother is there to address a continuity error or something. In this strip: That's Roy, when he was younger. It was supposed to be a montage of his early life.
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Oct 19, 2007 00:13
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Manyorcas posted:That's Roy, when he was younger. It was supposed to be a montage of his early life. Two panels after that
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Oct 19, 2007 00:15
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greatn posted:Two panels after that Oh right.  That was probably before the incident then, perhaps?
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Oct 19, 2007 00:21
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Why wouldn't everyone assume that was his sister? Babies all look alike anyway.
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Oct 19, 2007 00:24
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Grasping at straws here but maybe his brother was killed in some sort of magical accidental, disillusioning Roy and turning him towards a fighter. Or maybe I am reading way too much into that.
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Oct 19, 2007 01:00
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I think it's something simpler, like Roy and his little brother playing somewhere they shouldn't have been, after Eugene told them to go make up their own fun, while he did "important" things. Roy's little brother drowns/is eaten/is trampled/falls on a sharp object, and the wedge is driven between Roy and Eugene. I tell you, if it IS something like that, the case for Eugene getting into LG heaven just keeps getting worse and worse.
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Oct 19, 2007 01:47
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Samedi posted:Why wouldn't everyone assume that was his sister? Babies all look alike anyway. I guess because Julia's so much younger than Roy. I don't know, I got this second-hand.
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Oct 19, 2007 01:57
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I actually think that it might be the same baby as Roy's little brother. You can see the edge of an orange shirt peeking out in strip 113, and he's got the same little hair poofs. If it was Julia I'd think that the baby would have longer hair or a pink shirt or something.
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Oct 19, 2007 02:04
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Women's Rights? posted:I actually think that it might be the same baby as Roy's little brother. You can see the edge of an orange shirt peeking out in strip 113, and he's got the same little hair poofs. If it was Julia I'd think that the baby would have longer hair or a pink shirt or something. Plus, setting up Roy's little brother almost 400 strips in advance is exactly the kind of thing I have no doubt he would do. THE SHIRT IS THE SAME COLOR. Man. Seriously. This guy.
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Oct 19, 2007 02:41
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So I guess that's why Roy's so tolerant of a certain other bard.
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Oct 19, 2007 03:13
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Bobulus posted:I'm pretty sure this is the first time it's been mentioned, unless it was in some bonus material I don't have. I have the books released so far, and it's not in there. Edit: beaten by the page I did not see.
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Oct 19, 2007 03:43
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NutShellBill posted:I think it's something simpler, like Roy and his little brother playing somewhere they shouldn't have been, after Eugene told them to go make up their own fun, while he did "important" things. I dunno, read Roy's dialog again, "I know it wasn't my fault. I know that. I was just a kid, it wasn't my job to watch the grown-up. But... I should have done something. I knew it wasn't safe." Roy didn't do it, Eugene did. Roy was just an unlucky bystander. Now I really hope something awful happens to Eugene.
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Oct 19, 2007 05:10
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Calling it now for the 500th issue: Roy settles the business with his father and his brother's death, decides he has everything he wants, and declines resurrection. And the others just wander around aimlessly, wondering what to do with no leader. 
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Oct 19, 2007 05:35
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rantmo posted:Now I really hope something awful happens to Eugene.
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Oct 19, 2007 11:51
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I clicked on this thread by accident, was taken by the character of Xykon and *POOF* 2 of my 3 days off are gone from reading the entire strip in chronological order. thank you
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Oct 19, 2007 15:05
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I guess that answers Clapton's question.
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Oct 19, 2007 15:16
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I have mixed feelings about this. Not that that strip wasn't awesome. It was. All this Celestia stuff has been amazing. What bothers me is that the ease with which Burlew switches from drama to comedy and back again is only going to bolster the ranks of relatively funny gag-a-day webcomics that drown in a sea of boring, annoying melodrama. Now that YWCiBaYSFB is dead, maybe someone should start up a page that has nothing but "YOU ARE NOT RICHARD BURLEW, STOP TRYING" in huge red letters.
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Oct 19, 2007 15:23
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Dead Snoopy posted:I clicked on this thread by accident, was taken by the character of Xykon and *POOF* 2 of my 3 days off are gone from reading the entire strip in chronological order. That is kind of like what happened to me originally. I became aware of Order of the Stick somehow, and was mildly annoyed at its existence since I had only recently finally purged my life of wasting time on webcomics. I looked at the first strip, expecting to think it just as dumb as every other one, realized it was hilarious, and was reading strip #200 a few hours later. Nomenklatura posted:Now that YWCiBaYSFB is dead, maybe someone should start up a page that has nothing but "YOU ARE NOT RICHARD BURLEW, STOP TRYING" in huge red letters. I do not know what YWCiBaYSFB means. But I will try to guess. You Will Cry in Boredom as Your Sister's Friend Burns.
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Oct 19, 2007 15:36
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Quarex posted:I do not know what YWCiBaYSFB means. But I will try to guess. Your Web Comic is Bad and You Should Feel Bad. It's a blog that Fuego Fish started to rip on all of the terrible web comics out there. OotS is, of course, not even mentioned.
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Oct 19, 2007 15:41
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Except in the comments section, but those mongoloids would post about any old poo poo. YWB isn't dead, anyway, it's just taking a break.
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Oct 19, 2007 17:30
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Vanadium posted:What, something like dying and not being allowed into the afterlife? There are far, far worse things that can happen to a soul outside it's body and home plane, Outsiders have plenty of horrific things that they can (and will) do.
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Oct 19, 2007 19:26
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As it was written: awwwww.... 
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Oct 19, 2007 20:49
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This was so beautiful and sad. I don't know how the man does it. I actually had to stop and get something out of my eye when I read it.
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Oct 19, 2007 21:23
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Fuego Fish posted:YWB isn't dead, anyway, it's just taking a break. I've been preferring to think of it as lulling the prey into a false sense of security. I couldn't believe that some retards actually took their comics down because someone might post a criticism of them on an unrelated web page.
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Oct 19, 2007 21:56
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rantmo posted:There are far, far worse things that can happen to a soul outside it's body and home plane, Outsiders have plenty of horrific things that they can (and will) do. At least Eugene hasn't been shoved into the Wall of Atheists that's supposed to be somewhere in the Outlands. Seriously, a wall where souls that don't belong to any god are trapped for eternity. To be an atheist in a D&D-styled world is to ask for a very Terry Pratchett sort of pain.
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Oct 19, 2007 22:22
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Fuego Fish posted:Except in the comments section, but those mongoloids would post about any old poo poo.
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Oct 19, 2007 22:34
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IMJack posted:To be an atheist in a D&D-styled world is to ask for a very Terry Pratchett sort of pain. Being an Atheist in DnD would be really strange when you think about it, because its not like there is any real doubt about the existence and power of gods. I mean, you have some crazed priest to Umberlee raise up a flood or a cleric of Tyr blow apart undead with their holy symbol, and saying 'Oh no, I'm don't believe in that' just doesn't seem like an entirely reasonable position. I suppose you could attribute it to charlatan wizards or something like that, but how many times does somone have to call lightning before you're at least agnostic?
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Oct 19, 2007 22:59
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Ashcans posted:Being an Atheist in DnD would be really strange when you think about it... Atheists could just move to Glantri, where the whole country said "nyah nyah we can't hear you" to the gods and flat-out banned clerics in favor of arcane magic.
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Oct 19, 2007 23:26
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Ashcans posted:'Oh no, I'm don't believe in that' just doesn't seem like an entirely reasonable position. I am not really sure about that. Sure, lightnings are flashy and impressive and everything, but sorcerers can do similar things and they do not claim that there is a divine purpose to it. It still seems rather sensible to be wary of people pretending that their ability to blow stuff up is god-given.
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Myok posted:Atheists could just move to Glantri, where the whole country said "nyah nyah we can't hear you" to the gods and flat-out banned clerics in favor of arcane magic. Whoa, way to go all first edition on us.
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Vanadium posted:I am not really sure about that. Sure, lightnings are flashy and impressive and everything, but sorcerers can do similar things and they do not claim that there is a divine purpose to it. It still seems rather sensible to be wary of people pretending that their ability to blow stuff up is god-given. I'm fairly sure that sorcerers can't cast all the spells that clerics can, and vise-versa. Although, to the average peasant, I guess that would be a difficult distinction to make.
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Oct 20, 2007 01:17
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Olanphonia posted:I'm fairly sure that sorcerers can't cast all the spells that clerics can, and vise-versa. Although, to the average peasant, I guess that would be a difficult distinction to make. There is also the various barrable wizard schools and dozens of prestige classes with their own spelllike abilities, and druids who do not need to worship a concrete deity to cast divine spells, and psionics, and probably a bunch of gimmicks I am not even aware of that also have access to different sets of spells. For all my atheist character would know, clerics just tap into yet another non-sentient extraplanar energy source that just happens to manifest itself through other spells than arcane magic. 
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Oct 20, 2007 02:24
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Olanphonia posted:I'm fairly sure that sorcerers can't cast all the spells that clerics can, and vise-versa. Although, to the average peasant, I guess that would be a difficult distinction to make. This gives me a great idea for a villain that masquerades as a cleric, using clerical vestments and rituals to mask being a wizard.
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Oct 20, 2007 03:03
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Vanadium posted:There is also the various barrable wizard schools and dozens of prestige classes with their own spelllike abilities, and druids who do not need to worship a concrete deity to cast divine spells, and psionics, and probably a bunch of gimmicks I am not even aware of that also have access to different sets of spells. For all my atheist character would know, clerics just tap into yet another non-sentient extraplanar energy source that just happens to manifest itself through other spells than arcane magic. Not to mention that in FR, one of the gods, I believe, is literally the Weave of Magic itself. I'm curious if there would be any people in a D&D world who weren't atheist but didn't choose to follow a god.
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Ashcans posted:Being an Atheist in DnD would be really strange when you think about it, because its not like there is any real doubt about the existence and power of gods. I mean, you have some crazed priest to Umberlee raise up a flood or a cleric of Tyr blow apart undead with their holy symbol, and saying 'Oh no, I'm don't believe in that' just doesn't seem like an entirely reasonable position. I suppose you could attribute it to charlatan wizards or something like that, but how many times does somone have to call lightning before you're at least agnostic? I'm going to have to bust out some Mister Terrific reasoning. In D&D, being a Wizard at high levels is this close to being a god. Anyone could claim it with enough ranks in Bluff and some of the wackier 9th level spells. Any caster of sufficiently high enough level could definitely emulate being a god, and then you hit a nasty feedback loop of people believing you're a god and therefore you are like a god, as per D&D's Belief Makes Right rules. There's a whole faction of people in Sigil who are basically Atheists (the Athar?). They believe that all those gods are really just Epic level PCs. Or something.
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My character is an athiest. Then again he's first level. He hasn't witnessed any miracles or supernatural creatures. He's seen a cleric cast a spell or two but he thinks it is all the same witchcraft as a mage or sorcerer. He thinks it is all bullshit, why would he think otherwise? On the other hand I had a high level character in Planescape who was basically an athiest, because while there were so called 'gods' there seemed to be powers all over the place as strong that didn't call themselves gods. If that kind of power is obtainable or earnable, it isn't godhood. Then again, my other Planescape character is a devout follower of Pelor.
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NutShellBill posted:I think it's something simpler, like Roy and his little brother playing somewhere they shouldn't have been, after Eugene told them to go make up their own fun, while he did "important" things.
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