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Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause

Grimey Drawer

Zorak posted:

You should probably read the manga since the entire series is along the lines of what happens in the end. Except more awesome.

I'm ordering the first three volumes from Darkhorse as we speak. :patriot:

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Hung Yuri
Aug 29, 2007

by Tiny Fistpump

Taumpy Tearrs posted:

I'm ordering the first three volumes from Darkhorse as we speak. :patriot:

Tellin' you right now, poo poo gets much better around volume 6 the first time reading it. When I first read it, I didn't like it until around volume 6. Then again, I didn't watch the anime first. ;)

Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause

Grimey Drawer
I heard there were a few parts of the manga being totally changed or cut out for the anime so it'll be a new experience.

Squallege fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Feb 13, 2008

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
The only huge change off the top of my head that was done for obvious reasons was (like, second page of the manga/first 10 seconds of the anime spoilers) replacing Puck the Elf with some random girl about to get raped, or something.

After the Band of the Hawk arc, the manga really gets into the dark fantasy stuff with tigers, giant swords, elves and flying limbs.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
The anime doesn't have Skullknight, either.

A lot of people went from the anime to the manga, and it really isn't so bad because you eventually realize that in the grand scope of things the entirety of the anime (which was, all things considered, loving awesome) was just laying the bare foundations for the main story. When that hits you, and you see the 20 or so more volumes left in front of you, well it's a good feeling.

And then you catch up and wind up in our current situation :(

Pyrus Malus
Nov 22, 2007
APPLES
I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the that the reason Gatts can struggle against the Godhand, the Apostles, etc is because he was born from a corpse and fated to die. So he's sort of "outside" the wheel of fate.

Either way, that's something interesting that I've always thought about.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
:argh: you all for making me think a new chapter was released!

On the subject of cut content: The anime didn't have that Apostle that the king sent after them(I cant remember his name for the life of me). You know, the one with the gorilla looking true form.

Come to think of it; why does Caska keep getting raped or almost raped throughout the whole series?

OG17
Oct 6, 2002

IF I AM TROLLING REPORT ME!
There's just a lot of rape/almost rape going around, I guess.

Pyrus Malus posted:

I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the that the reason Gatts can struggle against the Godhand, the Apostles, etc is because he was born from a corpse and fated to die. So he's sort of "outside" the wheel of fate.

Either way, that's something interesting that I've always thought about.
Guts is affected by fate just like everything else, but he'll be damned if he doesn't fight against it every step of the way. It's a man vs. the universe thing and it'd be pretty meaningless if he was somehow excluded.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

Schubalts posted:

Come to think of it; why does Caska keep getting raped or almost raped throughout the whole series?
Demons like raping things and there's a lot of demons. v:unsmith:v

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Sindai posted:

Demons like raping things and there's a lot of demons. v:unsmith:v

But what about Guts? I mean, he almost did it too, when the beast within his soul started loving with his mind.

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Fallen Rib

Schubalts posted:

But what about Guts? I mean, he almost did it too, when the beast within his soul started loving with his mind.

demon rape urges


edit: or maybe Casca is just fine

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005

Pyrus Malus posted:

I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the that the reason Gatts can struggle against the Godhand, the Apostles, etc is because he was born from a corpse and fated to die. So he's sort of "outside" the wheel of fate.

Either way, that's something interesting that I've always thought about.

I don't think a corpse literally got pregnant and gave birth. Rather, his mother was hanged/ died and he somehow managed to survive and get out.

Mr. Deathy
Aug 3, 2003

Taumpy Tearrs posted:

I heard there were a few parts of the manga being totally changed or cut out for the anime so it'll be a new experience.

Wasn't so much changed or cut but episode 1 of the anime was like an introduction to the "current timeline" of Berserk and the rest if the backstory behind everything. In the manga though instead of just fighting that count, there's a ton of other stuff that happens before the backstory kicks into full force.

For the record though make sure to read all of that again in the manga since there are some character and plot omissions in the anime (as mentioned in above posts). One big scene is when they're fleeing from the castle just before the ending, that didn't go anywhere near as smoothly and quickly as it looked in the anime.

Oh and if you're initially offput by the weirder art at the beginning of the manga don't worry, Miura's style alters quite drastically as the story progresses and the detail level keeps on going up throughout too, which sadly is probably the main reason we wait months on a chapter now.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Zorak posted:

I don't think a corpse literally got pregnant and gave birth. Rather, his mother was hanged/ died and he somehow managed to survive and get out.

I had always assumed that his mother was sometime near her due date when she was hanged and the trauma from the hanging caused her to go into labor.. Which caused Guts to plop out and get found by.. uh.. well, I'm going to call her Gambino's Ho because I can't remember her name.

Anyway, I just caught up with this thread and I'm way behind on my reading. I just picked up volume 16 at my local shop, and the last scanlation I've read was chapter 283, so luckily I've got some fun stuff to read up on later tonight. :)

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
Yea... Guts had one hosed up childhood. Poor guy. :(

Pyrus Malus
Nov 22, 2007
APPLES

Zorak posted:

I don't think a corpse literally got pregnant and gave birth. Rather, his mother was hanged/ died and he somehow managed to survive and get out.

You misunderstood me. I know that she didn't literally get pregnant after death.

I was just insinuating that maybe since he was born from a dead body and was part of that body when it died, he was taken outside the wheel of fate.

I mean, obviously he is somehow able to struggle against Causality. Even the Godhand, if I remember correctly, couldn't predict that he would escape the Eclipse.

Pyrus Malus fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Feb 20, 2008

maxxheadcheese
Sep 9, 2005

Noble Man
Its finally time!
293 RAW IS OUT!

http://wsj.shiraku-scans.com/index.php?dir=Young+Animal%2FIssue+2008-05%2F
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gwjqpl
http://rapidshare.com/files/93668634/Berserk_293_Raw.zip

Cowboy
Nov 7, 2004

it was ok until she started peeing on me



Oh god, drat my lack of moon language reading ability. I had completely forgotten about this until I saw the thread bumped.

To bad we don't even get to see our favorite amputee.

Cowboy fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Feb 22, 2008

Lazermaniac
Sep 2, 2007
Do not stare into beam with remaining eye.
Holy poo poo, certainly took the man long enough. Still, good to see it's not dead :toot:

Faerie Fortune
Nov 14, 2004

I just marathon watched most of the anime over the past two days and good god is my head hosed up because of it. I should stop doing that. I've got the last episode to watch, which I'm hesitating a lot about because I really have a hard time handling rape in anime when it's portrayed realistically.
Anyway, after this is done, I'm planning on reading the manga. I was originally going to start from where the series left off, but judging from this thread, I should start from the beginning because of some of the plot points and characters that didn't appear in the anime. I know what the answer will be, but humour me. Which one should I do?

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Read from the start :black101:

On top of things left out (or added) between the two versions, also keep in mind that the manga is considerably more hosed up/violent than the anime. So if that last episode makes you squeamish, you'll be in for even more fun in the manga.

Faerie Fortune
Nov 14, 2004

I don't actually know if it makes me squeamish yet since I haven't watched it, but odds are that it will make me incredibly uncomfortable at best, and send me into a panic attack at worst. Manga isn't so bad because it's not happening right in front of me, and I'm dyslexic so my brain doesn't really process it right anyway.

insaine
Aug 29, 2006
I'd have to say that the manga has a lot more violence/blood/rape etc. in it than the anime but don't let that stop you as the story really REALLY gets loving awesome after the anime kinda chopped it off.

Trust me, it's well worth reading it even if these kinda things gross you out or whatever.

And yes, definitely start out from the beginning, and try to find the very first few chapters if you can as they are also quite different from the start of the anime.

Phil_asdf
Oct 9, 2006

by Fistgrrl
I recently discovered berserk by chance and have read up to chapter 292 from the scanlations. I did some searches but couldn't find info on when the next chapter is coming.

I realize that 293 raw is here, but according to the website I read from, 292 was translated back in november 2007, does anyone have any info on how often chapters are released, and how many planned chapters there are?

More of the little witch's crazy spell casting powers needed.

maxxheadcheese
Sep 9, 2005

Noble Man

Phil_asdf posted:

I recently discovered berserk by chance and have read up to chapter 292 from the scanlations. I did some searches but couldn't find info on when the next chapter is coming.

I realize that 293 raw is here, but according to the website I read from, 292 was translated back in november 2007, does anyone have any info on how often chapters are released, and how many planned chapters there are?

More of the little witch's crazy spell casting powers needed.

Hey, grats on discovering Berserk - its awesome. Though, Im sorry to inform you the manga does not get released on a regular basis. Some chapters come back to back once every 2 weeks or so, but from time to time Miura take breaks for a couple of (many) months.

Tualek
May 28, 2006
Small Body

maxxheadcheese posted:

Hey, grats on discovering Berserk - its awesome. Though, Im sorry to inform you the manga does not get released on a regular basis. Some chapters come back to back once every 2 weeks or so, but from time to time Miura take breaks for a couple of (many) months.
Hey, at least it's better than Hellsing where Hirano won't release a chapter for months because he is too busy drawing porn.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I think the main problem Miura has right now is that the last several chapters have all had many uses of double page spreads with tons of characters. We've seen large groups of people, such as armies, in just about every chapter for the past year. Coupled with Miura's one man army approach to drawing and his penchant for insane detail, and you get these delays. I bet if it was just Guts and his gang the chapters would be much more regular.

Jimmybob
Mar 7, 2005
One more week until 294. It's nice to have a somewhat predictable release schedule again, though god knows how long it will last.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005

Tualek posted:

Hey, at least it's better than Hellsing where Hirano won't release a chapter for months because he is too busy drawing porn.

You're giving him too much credit, it's usually because Hirano is too busy jacking off to porn. He's given this excuse before, actually.

maxxheadcheese
Sep 9, 2005

Noble Man
294 RAW:
http://rapidshare.com/files/99280322/_5BRaw-Manga_5D_20Berserk_20294_20MQ-HQ_20_5B2008-06_5D.zip

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005
Have they even translated 293 yet? :geno:

Edit: On 294... YES MIURA WE GET IT, GRIFFITH IS AWE INSPIRING AND MAJESTIC HOW MANY TWO PAGE SPREADS OF HIM LOOKING MAJESTIC ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE US SEE

Zorak fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Mar 13, 2008

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

Zorak posted:

Have they even translated 293 yet? :geno:
Evil Genius has had it up since the 8th. :3:

OG17
Oct 6, 2002

IF I AM TROLLING REPORT ME!

Zorak posted:

Have they even translated 293 yet? :geno:

Edit: On 294... YES MIURA WE GET IT, GRIFFITH IS AWE INSPIRING AND MAJESTIC HOW MANY TWO PAGE SPREADS OF HIM LOOKING MAJESTIC ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE US SEE
Remember when all the spreads were of Guts cleaving saps and the rest of the chapter was about Guts cleaving saps and there weren't any boats or elephants? Those were good times.

Mr. Deathy
Aug 3, 2003

3/28 for the next chapter ay? Not bad Miura, 3 chapters within about 2-3 months...let's just hope there's not a 6 month break after that.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

OG17 posted:

Remember when all the spreads were of Guts cleaving saps and the rest of the chapter was about Guts cleaving saps and there weren't any boats or elephants? Those were good times.

Those were good times indeed.

maxxheadcheese
Sep 9, 2005

Noble Man

OG17 posted:

Remember when all the spreads were of Guts cleaving saps and the rest of the chapter was about Guts cleaving saps and there weren't any boats or elephants? Those were good times.

Yeah, good times, good times. Cleaving orcs was also good. And berserker armour rage never let anyone down.

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

294 is up at evil genius!

Zackarotto
Dec 25, 2005

Ha! Ha! I'll now calculate your brain age.
Interesting chapter. I can see those Kushan assassins joining up with Griffith in time, like everybody else does. I gotta say, considering how rarely Berserk is released, that if you really don't like the political Griffith stuff, you might as well find another manga to satiate your bloodlust. Maybe something like Gantz.

That being said, I'd like to see some more old-fashioned Guts chapters soon, preferably chapters where Miura doesn't have to spend 3 months drawing the wood paneling on the side of a boat or a pirate crew of fifty thousand people shown in every frame.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

OG17 posted:

Remember when all the spreads were of Guts cleaving saps and the rest of the chapter was about Guts cleaving saps and there weren't any boats or elephants? Those were good times.

Oh these were the best days.

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Zorak
Nov 7, 2005

Zackarotto posted:

Interesting chapter. I can see those Kushan assassins joining up with Griffith in time, like everybody else does. I gotta say, considering how rarely Berserk is released, that if you really don't like the political Griffith stuff, you might as well find another manga to satiate your bloodlust. Maybe something like Gantz.

I disagree. Like he said, they've seen the "things beyond the knowledge of man" enough. While the others are merely putting faith that everything will be okay beyond this, they've SEEN the kin that fate holds, and they're nightmarish, horrific things that live on the lives of others. If anything, he's going to stand like Guts does, upon the precipace. His philosophy you might notice is a lot like Guts', his background is similar too. Forced into being a mercenary just to survive, relying only on their strength despite it all.

The difference is, he is still "waiting and seeing", still following the Demon Emperor despite knowing what it is. Guts would have given it the finger right away (and quite possibly died by doing so), so the difference of course is how much they're willing to take. The Assassins disagree with the horrors the Emperor is doing, but they seem to be too afraid, even if they don't act that way, to act against them.


Maybe Guts is going to get a new party member someday :)

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