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swanage posted:I really do not think it is worth it to get gear just to take the MSF. By the time you're doing anything where any amount of motorcycle gear is going to be relevant you'll have been drilled out the wazoo and will be in a good mental state. You're going to be spending all that money without knowing if motorcycling is right for you (it probably is, but some people just can't get the hang of it), and there is no requirement for motorcycle gear. On the flip side of things, I did the MSF in boots exactly like what he's talking about and didn't have a problem. You're not speed shifting, you have plenty of time to figure things out, etc. I bought my gear a bit early, but that's because i already had my 250 it was just sitting waiting for me. Didn't have a choice on riding it because i didn't have any other way of getting back to school  Still, a hoodie/long sleeve shirt, jeans, and over the ankle boots + some gloves are all you need for the MSF, and if it's going to be hot, stick with the lightest stuff you can wear. At worst you'll go down at low speed and get some minor scrapes. Not the end of the world. Most MSF accidents are simple falls, not actual "Crashing".
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My brother just got done taking the MSF last weekend and a lady there somehow managed to go rear end-over the top of a Rebel and broke her wrist. From what I gathered, she forgot about the clutch and was WOT on the throttle while trying to pull the front brake. I only imagine that she somehow twisted the bars and got shot over the top. While that shouldn't be expected or common at the MSF, some pretty crazy poo poo happens too it seems. Really, the most important thing to wear at the MSF is a helmet and some leather gloves. As to Ripoff's Sidi Sabers, I ride my Honda 599 daily with those. Super comfortable and I have no problems shifting in them. There is plenty of ankle mobility to rotate your foot down under the shifter. What you don't have is enough mobility to roll your ankle sideways and I'm pretty sure that is a good thing. Use them on a GSXR? Probably not, but on a Nighthawk they'll be fine. Hell, when I rode Predictive's Versys, they were the perfect boot for that bike.  Kind of a crappy pic, but you can get an idea as to the peg and shifter placement on the 599.
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swanage posted:Ripoff in particular I would not wear those boots to the MSF since the unfamiliar act of riding a motorcycle combined with how much those boots will restrict your ankles is probably going to do you far more harm in learning than any amount of protection they'll afford you beyond a high top shoe in a very unlikely 25mph spill. Yeah, I was actually thinking about that in relation to these boots but I don't happen to own a pair of ankle-high steel-toe boots (I should probably get some though) I figured that I would try to take it in these. However, I'm also considering to go grab some cheap high-top shoes at the local store to take it in just in case. For the MSF itself I figured I'd go in jeans and a long shirt, wear some good gloves and take the boots & helmet. I already know I want to get into bikes because I've ridden dirtbikes years ago, and for the short amount of time we had them I had a blast. I really loved those brief moments returning back to camp when I was on paved or somewhat smooth dirt roads, much more than the frantic rutted dirt and rocks. As for your concerns about me being on a bike the first time, I know how to start and shift a bike, no problem - I'm going for the safety lessons beyond that and the handling information. The only difficulty I can foresee is me getting used to the Nighthawk's clutch and engine. The reason I got those boots is because I once dropped a RT180 on my leg in the mud and it was not fun, and all of the normal street boots I found for sale barely topped the middle of my shin. Thinking about how much of a bitch that was while I was in mud made me worry about how that would feel on a slab of concrete. That's why I went for high boots, I just feel "better" wearing them. Does that necessarily mean I'm safer? Probably not, but I figured the boost in confidence is enough alone. Still though, I appreciate your advice and I am considering going out to buy a really cheap pair of work boots right now just in case. Terminus Est posted:As to Ripoff's Sidi Sabers, I ride my Honda 599 daily with those. Super comfortable and I have no problems shifting in them. Well that's awesome news, because I actually found a black 599 in the area that I'm thinking about looking at, depending on how well I do the MSF. If I get back on the MSF bike and it feels really natural again, I think I'm going to look into a 599 or an SV650. If I find myself choking and having difficulty, then I'm going to step into an older (and weaker) standard and go from there. funeral home DJ fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Apr 1, 2008 |
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Ripoff posted:I actually found a black 599 in the area that I'm thinking about looking at, depending on how well I do the MSF. If I get back on the MSF bike and it feels really natural again, I think I'm going to look into a 599 or an SV650. If it's been a long while since you've ridden, or if you don't have much time on a bike, I don't think the 599 is a good choice for getting back into riding. It has some supersport 600 characteristics that could make it unforgiving with incautious throttle inputs.
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Is there a waterproof quasi-offroad boot out there that doesn't cost $300+? The closest thing I'm finding are the Sidi Discovery (water "resistant', $300) and the Gaerne Oiled Balance ($330, brown boots won't match my black pants and will force me to buy all new gear + Coach handbag). I have Gaerne GT waterproof touring boots right now, but they're losing their waterproofness and they aren't too comfortable to walk around in. A few people recommended I look at some dual sport boots to address the comfort issue, but I would like them to be waterproof as well since I ride in the rain a decent amount. VVv sounds like a winner, I'll check the Explorers out vVV Jazzzzz fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Apr 2, 2008 |
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Jazzzzz posted:Is there a waterproof quasi-offroad boot out there that doesn't cost $300+? The closest thing I'm finding are the Sidi Discovery (water "resistant', $300) and the Gaerne Oiled Balance ($330, brown boots won't match my black pants and will force me to buy all new gear + Coach handbag). My Garene Explorers are waterproof provided I coat them in minkoil about 3-4 times a year. But I've ridden through streams with them and they've done a good job no complaints in the rain either, they run ~100. Other than that I'd think you'd want to look at a real touring road boot, or just see about mink oiling and seam sealing your current boots.
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Is there anything wrong with getting a jacket for a bike you don't own? I've never ridden, but I really like the looks of this Triumph jacket. I've been considering getting a cheap bike to learn this summer. Would I look strange wearing it on a Suzuki? 
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All the jackets I've tried on in stores so far are too short in the arms. I'm 6'2 with about 42-44 shoulders and <34 pants, so finding stuff that fits well is fairly difficult. Anyone have any luck with the Newenough "Hard to fit" tall options. Better yet, can anyone recommend something? I know Newenough has a good return policy (I've already used it once when I made a terrible decision) but shipping to Canada hurts, especially trying to get customs money back.
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Armyman25 posted:Is there anything wrong with getting a jacket for a bike you don't own? I've never ridden, but I really like the looks of this Triumph jacket. You are asking a fashion question more than a safety gear question. Depending on what the back looks like it will probably be more or less strange. If its just a plain back it probably won't be that noticeable, if it has a big ol' Triumph on the back you might wanna hold off.
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Anyone had any luck with finding decent 3/4 length boots in a WIDE size? I really don't want to have to resort to harley type boots to get something waterproof. I had a pair of Oxtar Infinities that I loved and are finally giving up on me after 5 years. I know that TXC bought Oxtar but I can't find any reviews saying they still run on the wider side. I saw the Sidi Mega wides on NewEnough but the guy there says the calf adjustment is pretty limited. Thanks for any tips on where to look.
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Tindjin posted:Anyone had any luck with finding decent 3/4 length boots in a WIDE size? I really don't want to have to resort to harley type boots to get something waterproof. Gaerne boots tend to fit a wider foot, I have a normal width and the Gaernes I own and all the ones I've tried on are pretty roomy. Oxtar/TCX didn't change their boots at all, they just changed names and bumped their prices by 20-40% 
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Armyman25 posted:Is there anything wrong with getting a jacket for a bike you don't own? I've never ridden, but I really like the looks of this Triumph jacket.
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pr0zac posted:You are asking a fashion question more than a safety gear question. Depending on what the back looks like it will probably be more or less strange. If its just a plain back it probably won't be that noticeable, if it has a big ol' Triumph on the back you might wanna hold off. The brochure information lists the following: RIVTON JACKET 1mm leather Easily removable CE95 shoulder and elbow protectors Double stitched impact seams 3M® night reflective front and rear piping Option to fit fleece neck warmer Waist connection zipper supplied Straight fitting style So, it seems to be pretty good. Also, the back is plain leather: 
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If it makes you happy I say go for it, though at some point someone will probably ask about it. Just say you want a Triumph soon but bought an intelligent starter bike and I doubt anyone will give you crap.
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Armyman25 posted:Is there anything wrong with getting a jacket for a bike you don't own? I've never ridden, but I really like the looks of this Triumph jacket. problem solved
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Another thing to mention about Triumph leather gear: its color fades pretty quickly. I have a pair of Triumph gloves and the Rivton jacket, and both have gone brown pretty quickly. The use of a product like Chelsea leather food is almost required if you want to keep things in good shape.
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fidottio posted:All the jackets I've tried on in stores so far are too short in the arms. I'm 6'2 with about 42-44 shoulders and <34 pants, so finding stuff that fits well is fairly difficult. Earlier in this thread I posted pictures post-crash, and I was a little disappointed with how it held up (it protected me, but I won't be using it again). Besides that my only complaints were that the leather is kind of cheap, and the collar design just scooped up cold area and dumped it on my chest, which is ok for warmer weather, but negates the nice full-sleeved liner in cold weather.
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DrChu posted:Tourmaster Coaster II jacket size medium Also, what're you wearing now that you won't go back to that one? Thanks!
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fidottio posted:It doesn't show up under New Enough's tall section, even though they sell it. Did you just try it on at a local shop? I haven't replaced the jacket yet (happened about two months, decided to wait out the rest of winter, fix the bike and then start riding it again). I really like the plain design of the jacket, and if not for the collar I would probably order it again.
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fidottio posted:It doesn't show up under New Enough's tall section, even though they sell it. Did you just try it on at a local shop? I dont know if your looking for pants as well but I got Firstgeart HT 2 overpants yesterday in a 34 tall and they are great. I am 6 3 and have trouble finding pants that are long enough usually.
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rope kid posted:I have that Rivton jacket. It's pretty nice for summer riding as long as things don't get too hot. However, it's not warm at all once things get cooler (50s or so). Decent shoulder and elbow armor, but no back armor. Cool. Is the leather pretty soft?
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Does anyone have experience with Z1R gear? I'm looking at this jacket but also looking for some input. It's been pretty hard to find a good looking yellow and black jacket. http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/39/11022/ITEM/Z1R-Dart-Jacket.aspx I checked out some of those Triumph jackets (since I just bought a Triumph) but the ones I liked don't have armor so I'm avoiding them like the plague.
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Drunk Pledge Driver posted:Does anyone have experience with Z1R gear? I'm looking at this jacket but also looking for some input. It's been pretty hard to find a good looking yellow and black jacket. You can buy back protectors separate. Bit of a hassle. Some jackets come with a pocket, but no armor.
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Armyman25 posted:Cool. Is the leather pretty soft?
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I got my gear! The local shop finally got some leathers in with some long arms so I got a jacket from there (I think it's Nexo). Turns out I'm a solid 44, with a nice 32-34 waist. Hard to fit. I picked up some Icon textile pants too because they were pretty inexpensive and seemed to offer decent protection being that they had some knee armour. We'll see if they live up to their terrible reputation if I drop.. let's hope not. I got a new helmet too! A KBC for under $100. Will post gear pictures edit: now!: The jacket is from Nexo ($220, but I got a $50 gift card which I used on the pants), everything's perfect..     ...except for the really annoying velcro tightener right in the way of the zipper. I need to tighten it because my waist is small and it sort of distorts the jacket. Also, I'm slightly worried about the velcro wearing out since I'll be doing it up/undoing it fairly often.  Icon pants ($100):   Helm (KBC VR-3)[$90. gently caress yeah!] and my J-Rocket gloves [$40ish? I forget because I got them 2 years ago]:  Woot woot! fidottio fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Apr 5, 2008 |
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Nice jacket, but man, that is a stupid place for the waist adjustment. My JR has two adjusters on the sides, so you just set it and forget it.
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Anyone have recommendations for a moderate weather glove? I moved up to college, and while I don't have my scooter now I will in about two weeks. They'll need to cover roughly a 55-75F range and handle a rain well. I have gloves for colder, and it won't get much hotter than that here in the summer (and if it does, I'll suffer through it). Preferably less than $60, and probably textile over leather, for the rain issue. I don't have any brand preference, or anything. Also, any suggestions on overpants? Obviously same rain/temperature requirements as the gloves, also preferably textile, and these under $100 or so. Any protection is an upgrade, since I just wear jeans now. Thanks in advance.
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fidottio posted:Icon pants ($100): How do you like the pants? I'm considering getting a pair of those as they aren't so tight like most other pants. How is the length? I've noticed the inseams run kind of long, is there a way to adjust them so they're not too long?
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Drunk Pledge Driver posted:How do you like the pants? They are quite wide at the bottom of the pant too, which I don't really like. Kinda Cowboy flare like.
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I'm trying to find some pants that offer good protection, but are reasonably comfortable for the summer. I've got some overpants for short jaunts, but I think I'd feel more comfortable with something a bit heavier for long trips/going on the freeways. http://www.newenough.com/protective_apparel/leather_jackets_and_pants/alpinestars/a10_leather_textile_motorcycle_pants.html I'm thinking these Alpinestars A-10 Leather/Textile, seems like the textile will help keep my legs a little cooler in the summer, as well as the fact that these will zip together with my jacket. The armor also seems pretty substantial. Anybody have experience with them? I won't be using these at the track or anything. I've read about perforated leather being good for summer, but it doesn't seem like Alpinestar does it/advertises the fact, so if there are better alternatives I'm all ears.
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MiamiKid posted:I'm trying to find some pants that offer good protection, but are reasonably comfortable for the summer. I've got some overpants for short jaunts, but I think I'd feel more comfortable with something a bit heavier for long trips/going on the freeways. If you're really want some leather pants, find a perforated pair you really like and get a seamstress to add the mating zipper from your jacket to your pants. With that said, if you're not going to be doing a bunch of "aggressive" riding, I'm sure those would hold up fine in an accident. The difference between textiles and leather at street speeds isn't that huge...the difference is you'll probably still be able to wear the leather stuff, you won't be able to reuse the textile stuff. I commuted with 20 miles of freeway in textiles and while I wouldn't want to go down, I don't think i'd have come off that much better than i would in my leather one piece. The biggest advantage of non-overpants is they don't move around as much in an accident, which means less chance of the armor ending up on the side of your knee or the material folding over and burning through. You will bake to some degree in full leather pants in the summer, and those seem like a nice compromise between protection and comfort.
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Gear brands seem to be quite localized while helmets are more global. I've decided on a Swedish manufacturer but I'm struggling between the usual fashion/practicality/price. Posting mostly to let you look at some cool jackets, but input appreciated. First, the practical leather jacket. Bland looks, water resistant membrane, ventilation zippers, cheapest price, most stupid name. 'Manific'. Best value I suppose.  Then the cool looking leather jacket. Good looks, not water resistant, no ventilation, a bit more expensive. Named 'Brooklyn' after a celebrity baby or something.  Textile option. Ok looks but not as cool as leather, waterproof, temp adjusting membrane, light weight, a tad more expensive than 'Brooklyn', not as comfy in wind. Named 'Howard' after a fictional duck.  They all have matching pants with similar features at similar price spreads. And don't give me no gripe about vanity, looking good is not a crime.  My use is long weekend trips in good weather plus everyday commuting in a rainy town (88"/year). If it's raining too bad I'll just take the bus. Water proofness (proofanity?) does not have to take more than a drizzle or surviving a surprise shower. If I go for the non-proof Brooklyn jacket I'll prob get a rain suit too, but the most likely choice at this point is Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. Manific. It sounds like an adjective only used to describe male stripping amongst middle aged housewives.
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Its offically spring time so I here by dub this the power ranger suit show off thread. 
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pr0zac posted:Its offically spring time so I here by dub this the power ranger suit show off thread. Nice shoes, but I've never heard of Bohz helmets  Edit: interesting array of bargain [good] equipment with a pricey(ish) helmet. Oddly enough I've spent about a 8/1 ratio on my other gear/helmet. ChiliMac fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Apr 12, 2008 |
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ChiliMac posted:Nice shoes, but I've never heard of Bohz helmets My friend works at Cyclegear, I got the helmet for like 30% off.  My boots were actually my most expensive piece of gear I think.
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William Shatner thinks proper riding gear is for faggots!William Shatner posted:William Shatner discovered the perils of riding a motorcycle without any protective gear, when he crashed on a highway in California.
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I went on a fairly long ride yesterday wearing my Dainese Wave 2 back protector ( ) for the first time. It is actually quite comfortable. The times I noticed it it just felt like I was wearing a backpack (and since I was also wearing a backpack, albeit almost empty, that might have accounted for it too). What I found quite nice about it is it acts almost like a backrest, supporting your back in various positions. If you lean back into it it's like a springy chair, and if you're leaning forward into the wind it helps keep your posture. A side benefit to the protection. It was quite cool when I was out, so it remains to be seen how comfortable it is in the hot summer. You do feel the front strap belly strap, but it isn't uncomfortable as it is quite wide.
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William Shatner is an amazing person and I'm glad he doesn't wear riding gear.
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I'm looking to pick up a helmet and jacket in the next month or two as later in the summer I'll be riding (on the back) with someone a few times. From looking around, I like the HJC Sy-Max II (super secret pricing of $206) and this Icon leather jacket (super secret pricing of $309). Are these good choices? I'm not particularly dead set on a flip-up, but I really would like one as it seems convenient. I'll be going to Singapore, so heat will be a big issue (90 miles north of the equator), but I live in North Carolina (2,400 miles north of the equator for those interested) and plan on getting a bike of my own within the next few years, so the removable insulation in the jacket seems like it could suit both environments. I also saw something about the Schuberth C2 at the beginning of this thread. The only online store I can find has them listed at $450, over twice as expensive as the HJC. Is it worth that much more, and where could I find it cheaper? That or a Roof Boxer. They look neat too, but I can't find them for sale anywhere. Would I be able to find either of these two if I walked into a bike gear store (though I am clueless as to where I would fine one short of a dealership)?
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pr0zac posted:Its offically spring time so I here by dub this the power ranger suit show off thread.  I'm hoping it breaks in a little as I wear it.
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