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Ive wanted to get into Pratchett for awhile but there's so MUCH I don't know where to start :/
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Self Important posted:Ive wanted to get into Pratchett for awhile but there's so MUCH I don't know where to start :/ Then depending on the answer to these questions: Do you like fantasy in general? Y > Read in release order. Do you like Detective Shows? Y > Start on the Watch arc. Do you like the idea of Death as a character? Y > Start on the Death arc. Do you like witches? Y > Start on the Witches arc. Else > Start with Small Gods. Basically the first two books are parodies of Fantasy so if you don't like fantasy they won't do much for you, small gods is very stand alone and very good and the main arcs are a matter of taste, they're all good. In fact you can't really go wrong.
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Apr 5, 2008 12:07
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Mort is usually the best 'start' novel. It's a good introduction to Discworld concepts without being just fantasy parody like the first couple of books. Also, Wyrd Sisters, or Guards! Guards!
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Apr 6, 2008 06:09
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Eunabomber posted:Jeremy Irons performance as Vetinari That was a loving travesty, and I thought he could not have done a worse job. Five seconds prior to seeing that performance, I'd have said he was perfect for the role in every respect. Five seconds after it started, I wanted to know why the gently caress he was slurring with a lisp so bad that I couldn't understand a single word he said.
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Apr 6, 2008 09:48
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Keshik posted:That was a loving travesty, and I thought he could not have done a worse job. Can I just say Eragon and Dungeons & Dragons?
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Apr 6, 2008 18:19
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Keshik posted:That was a loving travesty, and I thought he could not have done a worse job. Five seconds prior to seeing that performance, I'd have said he was perfect for the role in every respect. Five seconds after it started, I wanted to know why the gently caress he was slurring with a lisp so bad that I couldn't understand a single word he said. I didn't think he was all that bad, but I've always sort of imagined Bill Nighy in that role. But Rincewind...well, let's just say I always imagine him as something like The Dude in the Big Lebowski so the guy in this was just awful.
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Apr 6, 2008 20:03
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Keshik posted:Five seconds after it started, I wanted to know why the gently caress he was slurring with a lisp so bad that I couldn't understand a single word he said. Because that's how Terry talks. He was doing an impression. It doesn't make it any less stupid, I agree.
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Apr 6, 2008 22:03
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The_Doctor posted:Because that's how Terry talks. He was doing an impression. It doesn't make it any less stupid, I agree. Yeah, even his normal voice is kind of weird and high. I think the only part of the palace scene that looked like it does in my head was Wuffles.
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Apr 7, 2008 00:09
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Nighy as Vetinari and Jeff Bridges as Rincewind  On another note, go Help Cure Alzheimers goddammit! Also, let's cast actors in various Discworld roles! I think Maggie Smith would make a decent Granny Weatherwax. I think Eastwood could play older Sam Vimes, but I don't know who'd play him in the younger stories. Who would play Moist?
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Apr 11, 2008 07:18
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Moist von Lipwig posted:I think Eastwood could play older Sam Vimes, but I don't know who'd play him in the younger stories. Bill Pullman as Vimes all around. I haven't met Moist yet, but The Truth is in my to-read pile. I'm eager to get to it, I haven't seen a new arc in bloody ages.
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Apr 11, 2008 07:56
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LooseChanj posted:Bill Pullman as Vimes all around. What crack are you smoking?
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Apr 11, 2008 08:03
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LooseChanj posted:Bill Pullman as Vimes all around. I haven't met Moist yet, but The Truth is in my to-read pile. I'm eager to get to it, I haven't seen a new arc in bloody ages. Moist isn't in The Truth, the main character in that is William de Worde.
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Apr 11, 2008 08:20
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Moist isn't in The Truth, the main character in that is William de Worde. Durrr.  It's still a new character and I'm excited to get to it!
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Apr 11, 2008 08:30
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Nighy as Vetinari and Jeff Bridges as Rincewind As much as I hate to play around in casting discussions, but I've been doing a Battlestar Galactica marathon recently, and I think Michael Hogan, a.k.a Col. Tigh would make a pretty good Vimes. He can play a great functional alcoholic, can boss people around like nobody's business, and can sport an eyepatch and not come off as a jaunty sailor. Give him a British accent and he would be perfect. What I wouldn't give to have a Col. Tigh reading of "Where's my Cow?" thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Apr 12, 2008 |
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Apr 12, 2008 08:49
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I was thinking about things, and I came up with a really good Vetinari. Andy Garcia. Also, Patrick Stewart as Leonard of Quirm. Now, you guys can discuss Vimes all you want, and there are many actors who I am sure would do a fine job. A real question is who could play Captain Carrot? I mean, where are you going to find a guy who's six and a half feet tall, built of pure solid muscle, and exudes the kind of on-screen charisma that will make people believe that, against all possibility, this guy is friends with everyone he meets.
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Apr 12, 2008 15:18
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Keshik posted:A real question is who could play Captain Carrot? It sure as hell isn't Viggo Mortinson.
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Apr 12, 2008 22:48
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I think that Christian Bale could pull off Carrot pretty well, based on a balance of his performances in American Psycho and Batman Begins.
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Apr 15, 2008 00:43
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I always pictured Vimes as Pete Postlethwaite
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Apr 15, 2008 02:06
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Would it be too obvious to say that Alan Rickman would be the perfect Vetinari?
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Apr 15, 2008 05:55
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Reverend Werewolf posted:I always pictured Vimes as Pete Postlethwaite Hey, so does Pratchett, according the The Art of Discworld. Strangely enough I've always pictured Vimes as David Jason, falling somewhere between Del Boy and Jack Frost. He's a pretty poor choice for Albert, and an absolutely abysmal choice for Rincewind, but I'd quite happily accept him as Vimes so long as he could play it straight.
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Apr 15, 2008 16:31
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precision posted:Would it be too obvious to say that Alan Rickman would be the perfect Vetinari? Only if he smiles more for this role. He plays the silent scowling bad guy well enough, let's have a role change! I know he CAN smile, ffs...
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Apr 15, 2008 18:14
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Actually, I'd pick Tim Curry for Vetinari myself, although perhaps a playing it a bit more reserved than he usually does. As for Carrot...I dunno, I personally think it would be best to go for a relative unknown for him. Someone that people have preconcieved notions of simply wouldn't work for that role the way I see it.
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Apr 15, 2008 18:29
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Jeremy Irons looked exactly like I had imagined Vetinari, literally exactly. Voice pissed me off, though, I hope he doesn't do it the whole time in Going Postal.
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Apr 16, 2008 08:33
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Also, let's cast actors in various Discworld roles! As long as Maggie Smith uses a colder, harder voice than she does as McGonnaggal, she'd be perfect. She's excellent in the Potter movies but I find the voice she uses a bit annoying. Physically she's spot on. The only other person I could see pulling it off really well is Helen Mirren. Also in the category of "Awesome old British people who have a serious disease, nooooo, drat you cruel fate", Maggie Smith is fighting breast cancer right now. 
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Apr 29, 2008 10:09
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I think Patsy Byrne could make a convincing Nanny Ogg. If they ever do adapt one of the Witches books, they'll probably cast some some stunningly attractive young actress as Magrat, but I hope they don't, it seems like she's supposed to be much more homely.
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Entropic posted:I think Patsy Byrne could make a convincing Nanny Ogg. Nanny Ogg has to be likeable though. I swear to God my Granny was the exact spit of Nanny Ogg; she owned a pub, was well-known and liked for miles around and was always smiling and having a craic. She even looked alike. Except for the, y'know, sexual deviancy and witchcraft bit. That ... that never happened.
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Apr 30, 2008 11:36
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Nilbop posted:Nanny Ogg has to be likeable though. I know you're waiting to for someone to say, "Suuuuuurrrre it didn't". But remember your Gran had to get poked least once. How do you know it wasn't during a full-moon for the purpose of making a Moon Child?
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May 1, 2008 20:38
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 HOLY poo poo!http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nation-Terry-Pratchett/dp/0385613709/ref=pd_sbs_b_njs_img_2 Nation release date and summary on amazon!
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May 2, 2008 01:00
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Moist von Lipwig posted:
The book name is "Nation" and it's being released on September 11th? I wonder if the US release date will be altered.... It looks like it's one of his children's/Young-Adult titles, and not connected to either Discworld, the Bromeliad, or Johnny. I suspect I will buy and enjoy it anyway. Anyway, here's the synopsis for the click-averse: Amazon posted:Finding himself alone on a desert island when everything and everyone he knows and loved has been washed away in a huge storm, Mau is the last surviving member of his nation. He's also completely alone - or so he thinks until he finds the ghost girl. She has no toes, wears strange lacy trousers like the grandfather bird and gives him a stick which can make fire. Daphne, sole survivor of the wreck of the Sweet Judy, almost immediately regrets trying to shoot the native boy. Thank goodness the powder was wet and the gun only produced a spark. She's certain her father, distant cousin of the Royal family, will come and rescue her but it seems, for now, all she has for company is the boy and the foul-mouthed ship's parrot. As it happens, they are not alone for long.Other survivors start to arrive to take refuge on the island they all call the Nation and then raiders accompanied by murderous mutineers from the Sweet Judy. Together, Mau and Daphne discover some remarkable things - including how to milk a pig and why spitting in beer is a good thing - and start to forge a new Nation.
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May 2, 2008 09:11
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ThaGhettoJew posted:The book name is "Nation" and it's being released on September 11th? I wonder if the US release date will be altered.... I pointed this out earlier in the thread, I thought it might be significant.
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Moist von Lipwig posted:I pointed this out earlier in the thread, I thought it might be significant. Apologies, must have passed over your earlier note. In any case, I hope it isn't significant. The synopsis doesn't seem to coincide at all. It looks even farther away than Jingo or Thud in theme.
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May 4, 2008 01:52
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Just finished the Truth, and I really hope I haven't seen the last of the A-M Times. It was just such a fun ride, and I loved de Worde's interactions with Vimes.
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May 4, 2008 14:37
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I just finished Jingo, so I'm well on the I-heart-Vimes bandwagon now. So let me just see if I have the approximate analogical geography right... Lancre ~ Scotland Genua ~ France, Louisiana Agatean Empire ~ China, Japan Klatch ~ Arabia, India XXXX ~ Australia Uberwald ~ Transylvania (took me ages to work out the wordplay there) what'd I miss out?
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May 4, 2008 18:32
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Entropic posted:I just finished Jingo, so I'm well on the I-heart-Vimes bandwagon now. For some reason I always considered Lancre a bit more Welsh than Scottish. i don't know why...
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May 4, 2008 19:36
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Adversary posted:For some reason I always considered Lancre a bit more Welsh than Scottish. i don't know why... Well, it's definitely rural UK, but Wyrd Sisters pretty much established it as a MacBethian Scotland setting of sorts. Wales is Llamedos, where Imp came from in Soul Music, isn't it?
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May 4, 2008 19:45
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Uberwald is Eastern Europe, in particular the USSR/former USSR. At least, that's what I got from Fifth Elephant.
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May 4, 2008 20:00
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I think Lancre is just generic British-Isle hillbilly with no particular cultural cultural origin.
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May 4, 2008 20:06
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Well, most places on the disc are sort of general mish-mashes of real places with their own Discworldian twist, it's not as if there's a one-to-one correspondence.
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Entropic posted:I just finished Jingo, so I'm well on the I-heart-Vimes bandwagon now.
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Terry Pratchett posted:I can't remember the guy's name, but I've always pictured the Patrician as looking like the father in Beetlejuice -- the man also played the Emperor of Austria in Amadeus. Jeffrey Jones (As well as Alan Rickman) was Terry's casting choice for Vetinari, at least some years ago
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