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Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Zo posted:

Hahhahahahaha this is my exact problem and it's also my exact situation with alcohol. I hate those jackhammers so much and they ALWAYS end up loving me over because I lose my rhythm halfway through. When I'm a little drunk I just don't think hard enough to mess up on them.

EX-ACT-LY. I overthink it. Two handed I can kind of handle them better, for some reason I've got better coordination if I use different hands I guess, but one handed [or for a series that uses just one hand] I just lose it. I end up focusing too hard trying to make sure my timing's right, when in reality, it should be a simple left, right, left, right, left... but I slip a little, get a Good, then try to correct and end up totally blowing the pattern.

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very
Jan 25, 2005

I err on the side of handsome.

Code Jockey posted:

EX-ACT-LY. I overthink it. Two handed I can kind of handle them better, for some reason I've got better coordination if I use different hands I guess, but one handed [or for a series that uses just one hand] I just lose it. I end up focusing too hard trying to make sure my timing's right, when in reality, it should be a simple left, right, left, right, left... but I slip a little, get a Good, then try to correct and end up totally blowing the pattern.

This is why I can't score well on 5.1.1. 7key, and I don't think I've ever cleared Switch another.

I find it helps me to identify which key is falling on the "down" beat, and focus on that one. Also smacking the keys as hard as I can.

leather fedora
Jun 27, 2004

The closest acceptable translation is
"die properly"

kimcicle posted:

Slake has only made one decent song. I'm For Real. *boing*
Pretty much this.

Also, more songs need bonus scratch sound FX at the end of songs. I love the one on "The Last Song" and even when I fail Gradius Full Speed it's made better thanks to the random game sounds on the turntable.

I guess the best way to handle those jackhammers or alternating notes is to stop for a bit and try to get back into the rhythm as soon as possible, but given how strict IIDX is it might not be enough if it's near the end of the song. That's why I can't clear One More Lovely.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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leather fedora posted:

I guess the best way to handle those jackhammers or alternating notes is to stop for a bit and try to get back into the rhythm as soon as possible, but given how strict IIDX is it might not be enough if it's near the end of the song. That's why I can't clear One More Lovely.

Yeah, I've started doing this - the first time I miss one of the notes, I stop and try again. Seems to work most of the time. And yeah, if it's the end... blah.

Echoing the :argh: at One More Lovely. I haven't played it in a while, and decided to near the end of the hour or so playing session I had last night. My hands were way too tired for that song. :(

Also, is it just me, or is 7th style harder per difficulty level, but extremely lenient with timing? I was playing Remember Me [L7] last night, and I swear if it were HS or DistorteD I would've hit maybe 10% of what I was trying for, but I finished it with a high-90's percent and a D. Granted, I was hitting nothing but Good and non-flashing Greats, but I was still making hits that would've never passed in later editions. I think even 8th is tighter timed than 7th...

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



kimcicle posted:

Slake has only made one decent song. I'm For Real. *boing*

Don't forget about

LOVE

IS

DROWING


To all the people having trouble with alternating keys:


Go practice your Colors [L7], scrubs :science: :c00lbert: :science:

very
Jan 25, 2005

I err on the side of handsome.
Slake is obviously just a little too avant-garde for this crowd.

Mint Mania IIDX
Aug 21, 2007

by Fragmaster
I for one think that pretty much everything under his Sparker label is good. Also, Gambol. WAWAWAWAWAWA.

Fishious
Jan 9, 2008

Zo posted:

Hahhahahahaha this is my exact problem and it's also my exact situation with alcohol. I hate those jackhammers so much and they ALWAYS end up loving me over because I lose my rhythm halfway through. When I'm a little drunk I just don't think hard enough to mess up on them.

Wait until you start getting those with other poo poo going on at the same time, Andromeda [A] come to mind, ruins my hard clear attempts everytime.

Also don't think this has been posted yet but there's apprently a beatmania slot machine now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlz7UDu8kMQ

More videos in related. It doesn't surprise me as much seeing how they seem to theme pachinko/slot machines after everything ever there.

Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX

Fishious posted:

Wait until you start getting those with other poo poo going on at the same time, Andromeda [A] come to mind, ruins my hard clear attempts everytime.

Also don't think this has been posted yet but there's apprently a beatmania slot machine now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlz7UDu8kMQ

More videos in related. It doesn't surprise me as much seeing how they seem to theme pachinko/slot machines after everything ever there.

Ahh see I actually do better on alternating jackhammers if there's other poo poo going on at the same time, because I have timing from my other hand and I don't think about the jackhammers as much.

Also I thought the whole gambling/IIDX tie-in was because Konami is run (at the top) by a bunch of yakuza and they control the whole gambling sector as well? In any case that slot machine looks fun as hell, over normal ones anyways.

JimmyBiskit
Nov 15, 2007

Mint Mania IIDX posted:

I for one think that pretty much everything under his Sparker label is good.

I'll second this. I don't think there's a song under Sparker that I dislike.

Also, I'm really curious how the beatmania gameplay affects your winnings on that slot machine, whether it increases your chances/odds of winning, or if it's just something fun to distract you from the fact that you're spending all your money.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Whenever we go to the casino, I find myself tapping slot machine keys in time with whatever music's playing... well, I have to do something once I'm broke, after all. And that happens rather quickly...

Dr VideoGames 0.299
Feb 15, 2007

i really think you're overestimating how much
i love having dog shit smushed all over my face

Zo posted:

Also I thought the whole gambling/IIDX tie-in was because Konami is run (at the top) by a bunch of yakuza and they control the whole gambling sector as well?

I'm going to believe this is true because if it is then that is awesome.

Is there a general consensus about what is the best display to play IIDX on? As far as convenience, picture clarity, and complete lack of input lag? I'm looking for something around twenty inches or so, something that doesn't take up a ton of room and isn't a complete pain in the rear end to move around. A headphone port would be choice, too.

Giudecca
May 14, 2006

i'm so glad i'm better than you are.
A flat-screen CRT television with S-Video in. That's it.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Giudecca posted:

A flat-screen CRT television with S-Video in. That's it.

Really?

I'd say my Sanyo cheapass flat CRT with Component in. Totally lagfree and crystal clear, with great color.

Dr VideoGames 0.299
Feb 15, 2007

i really think you're overestimating how much
i love having dog shit smushed all over my face

Code Jockey posted:

Really?

I'd say my Sanyo cheapass flat CRT with Component in. Totally lagfree and crystal clear, with great color.

For lag-free component you would need a TV whose native resolution is 480i, correct? Because as I understand it, the reason I suffered lag when using component with my HDTV is because it had to deinterlace the PS2's signal in order to display it as 480p.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Dr. Video Games 0029 posted:

For lag-free component you would need a TV whose native resolution is 480i, correct? Because as I understand it, the reason I suffered lag when using component with my HDTV is because it had to deinterlace the PS2's signal in order to display it as 480p.

This is true, but there is nothing about component video that means it's high definition. My last TV was a CRT with nothing but 480i (it didn't even have progressive scan) and Component was available on it because it gives you better color quality and contrast than S.

Same can be said with S-Video, if the TV's native resolution isn't 480i and it has S-in, it will still be a problem.

On the flipside, I picked up a Sharp XR-30S projector which supports almost every kind of input known to man with no lag, and it works beautifully.

Any kind of set, any kind of configuration, results may vary.

A good general thing to look for though is native 480i support, since that's what IIDX runs on.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Yeah, make sure the TV actually runs at 480i. My CRT does, and it made a great gaming set until I bought my projector. :)

Dewgy posted:


On the flipside, I picked up a Sharp XR-30S projector which supports almost every kind of input known to man with no lag, and it works beautifully.


Duuuuude! I have an XR-30X! :aaa: [we essentially have the same projector, mine's just a touch brighter and runs 1024x768 native res]

I love the thing too. It's astoundingly good for IIDX, isn't it? TOTALLY lag free, wooo 480i support! I guess it says something about me that my main criteria for buying my projector was that it had to support 480i. Thankfully it ended up being a fantastic projector all around, working wonderfully with my media center PC over DVI.

Did you get the add-on VGA to component cable? I did, and oh man does it look good.

Now I just need to get a VGA box for my Dreamcast [or do the VGA mod to it] because composite video looks like garbage at 130". :(


e. and if anyone is interested, Fry's has my 30X for like $600 now, which is an absolute steal for the quality and capability this thing has. If you have enough room [thankfully I bought a house with a room built for a projector], I'd highly recommend it.

Code Jockey fucked around with this message at 10:48 on May 26, 2008

Giudecca
May 14, 2006

i'm so glad i'm better than you are.
He was talking about sharpness, though, and S-Video definitely looks better than plain component cables.

Edit: I got component and composite mixed up.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Giudecca posted:

He was talking about sharpness, though, and S-Video definitely looks better than plain component cables.

Edit: I got component and composite mixed up.

Haha, I was about to say, when I was trying the inputs on my CRT, S-Video was decent but not nearly as crisp/bright as Component. I was wondering for a moment if I just had some really bad S-Video cable or what. :D

Yeah, composite sucks royally.

kimcicle
Feb 23, 2003

So people with Play-Asia orders of just IIDX GOLD CS have been getting notifications that it has been shipped. Some people in Japan have already gotten their hands on it.

New DP [a] charts: Luv 2 Feel Your Body / Halfway of Promise, both are 10s.

7-Dan: Smile [H], Chikai [A], 2hot2eat [A], Snowstorm [A]
8-Dan: Candy Galy [H], Kakumei [A], Denjin [H], Get on Beat Wild Style [A] (gently caress this course)
9-Dan: KAMAITACHI [A], No.13 [A], smile [A], VANESSA [A]

Also, Least 100 sec out of loving nowhere in the game too. 5/9/12 5/9/12.

Giudecca
May 14, 2006

i'm so glad i'm better than you are.
Luv 2 Feel Your Body [A14] is definitely an 11, not a 10.

5Key Songs:

Beginning of Life - 1/2/3, 1/2/-
Beginning of Life (The Ground Pulse Mix) - 5/8/11, 8/10/12
Denim - 4/8/10, 4/10/11
Feeling of Love - 3/5/6, 3/5/6
Shox - 5/8/10, 7/9/11
The Least 100 Sec - 5/9/12, 5/9/12
Turning the Motor Over - 2/6/9, 4/5/8

Console Songs:

Chain of Pain - 4/8/10, 7/9/11
Electrified - 4/8/10, 5/9/11
Golden Cross - 4/9/12, 5/8/12
Guilt & Love - 6/9/10, 5/7/10
Pentacube Gt.(AX-Ver.S.P.L.) - 4/7/9, 6/7/9
Playball - 4/5/7, 4/7/9
Sequence Cat - 5/10/11, 6/10/12
The Detonator - 6/10/11, 7/9/10
The Story Begins - 4/8/10, 5/9/10
Treasure X Star - 4/9/10, 7/9/10
Welcome - 4/10/11, 6/8/11

kimcicle
Feb 23, 2003

Giudecca posted:

Luv 2 Feel Your Body [A14] is definitely an 11, not a 10.

Just going off of what this site is saying: http://iidx.cc/cs/14gold/

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Code Jockey posted:

Yeah, make sure the TV actually runs at 480i. My CRT does, and it made a great gaming set until I bought my projector. :)


Duuuuude! I have an XR-30X! :aaa: [we essentially have the same projector, mine's just a touch brighter and runs 1024x768 native res]

I love the thing too. It's astoundingly good for IIDX, isn't it? TOTALLY lag free, wooo 480i support! I guess it says something about me that my main criteria for buying my projector was that it had to support 480i. Thankfully it ended up being a fantastic projector all around, working wonderfully with my media center PC over DVI.

Did you get the add-on VGA to component cable? I did, and oh man does it look good.

Now I just need to get a VGA box for my Dreamcast [or do the VGA mod to it] because composite video looks like garbage at 130". :(


e. and if anyone is interested, Fry's has my 30X for like $600 now, which is an absolute steal for the quality and capability this thing has. If you have enough room [thankfully I bought a house with a room built for a projector], I'd highly recommend it.

Yeah, it's amazingly good for IIDX and other bemani, especially if you use no upscaling and zoom the lens in as much as possible so it's a reasonably small picture. Five foot bemani is impossible to time. :P

Also yep, VGA-Component converter, $5 from MAT electronics. Very good find, and everything looks fantastic, PS2/Wii/360 being mostly what I play on it. Handy hint: the "resize" function lets you view 480i/p widescreen if you're into that. :)

I'm very impressed with it. The only sad thing is I've ruined myself for CS IIDX by playing AC, so I need to get myself an ASC before I start playing again, but it's been wonderful for Guitarfreaks and Pop'n, and PAL support is just insane. Manhunt 2 leaked beta in fullscreen? I actually bought the Wii version so don't go calling filez on me, haha. Sure, I'll take that.

As for the Dreamcast, doesn't the projector have S-Video in? I mean it's no VGA, but it should be able to handle that and look sharper than just composite. Though if you have anything older than that, stick with Composite as long as you can. SNES with S-Video looks AWFUL. That system was made to look kinda blurry.

Xythar
Dec 22, 2004

echoes of a contemporary nation
Right I guess I should be crossposting some info here

Collabs
Full On / Chain of pain / kors k vs. Nekomata Master 4/8/10 7/9/11
Techno / GOLDEN CROSS / dj Remo-con vs. dj TAKA 4/9/12 5/8/12
Epic Trance / The Story Begins / SADA & SOTA 4/8/10 5/9/10
Dance Pop Speed / Treasure × Star / NAOKI & Ryu☆ fw Sachimayu 4/9/10 7/9/10
Techno / SEQUENCE CAT / SLEDLAKE (SLAKE & L.E.D.) 5/10/11 6/10/12
Shining Rave / Guilt&Love / The Plastic Ambition (jun & DJ YOSHITAKA)6/9/10 5/7/10

New CS songs
Tech House / Playball / sanodg 4/5/7 4/7/9
Hardcore / Welcome / Uraken 4/10/11 6/8/11
Electro / Electrified / SySf 4/8/10 5/9/11
Alternative Ethno Pop / PentaCube Gt. (RX-Ver S.P.L.) / Masafumi Takada 4/7/9 6/7/9
Nu-Style Gabba / THE DETONATOR / teranoid VS L.E.D.-G 6/10/11 7/9/10


5 key revivals
Ambient / Beginning of life / Quadra 1/2/3 1/2
House / feeling of love / youhei shimizu 2/6/9 4/5/8
Latin Ska / Turning the motor over / Delaware feat. Jeff Coote 3/5/6 3/5/6
Techno / DENIM / SLAKE 4/8/10 4/10/11
Techno / Beginning of life (The Ground Pulse Mix) / Quadra 5/8/11 8/10/12
Drum'n'Bass / SHOX / RAM / 5/8/10 7/9/11
Progressive / The Least 100sec / Sasaki Hirofumi / 5/9/12 5/9/12


New 14K anothers
Halfway of promise (10)
Luv 2 Feel Your Body (10)


10th dan: Denjin Fatal Attack [a], Candy Galy [a], Sense 2007 [a], GOLDEN CROSS [a]
Kaiden: Fascination MAXX [a], Antares [a], Vanessa [a][a], Kamaitachi [a][a]*

Golden Cross [a]: Nicovideo Youtube

*Vanessa and Kamaitachi have new charts in the Kaiden course that are even harder than their anothers, hence the term [a][a]. Kamaitachi [a][a] is reported to have 2000 notes.

preview edit: goddamnit Giudecca :argh:

Definitely going to bed for real now!

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Dewgy posted:

stuff

5 foot Bemani is tough? Dogg I roll straight 12' all the time. :c00l:

It also took a lot of re-adjusting to play on 25" LCDs at Sakuracon. :P

Yeah, I usually just play 4:3, the scaling just looks funky to me since I'm so used to playing at that aspect. The resize feature is neat though. I screamed when I saw the sucker switch to 576i for the first time - WHAT THE gently caress IT DOES PAL? :aaa:

Yeah, it has s-video, but I need an s-video cable for my Dreamcast. And I figure, if I'm going that far, I may as well go all the way. :D And for anything older, I just use my media center PC with it's shiny DVI. NES pixels as large as my fingertip... :v:

e. Also, I can't wait to get a GF ASC, I'm absolutely hooked on that game now that I can clear stuff a little better. How does the home version stack up against the arcade? How about the controller? My one problem - and this might just be because it's a heavily used arcade controller - is that the arcade's guitar strum bar is mushy as gently caress.

Code Jockey fucked around with this message at 16:47 on May 27, 2008

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Code Jockey posted:

Yeah, it has s-video, but I need an s-video cable for my Dreamcast. And I figure, if I'm going that far, I may as well go all the way. :D And for anything older, I just use my media center PC with it's shiny DVI. NES pixels as large as my fingertip... :v:

e. Also, I can't wait to get a GF ASC, I'm absolutely hooked on that game now that I can clear stuff a little better. How does the home version stack up against the arcade? How about the controller? My one problem - and this might just be because it's a heavily used arcade controller - is that the arcade's guitar strum bar is mushy as gently caress.

I beat Illusion of Gaia at 75" 4:3. :cool:

And yeah I can adjust to giant Bemani, but it's more worth it for me NOT to, because I like playing AC whenever I can. :P

Also CS guitarfreaks is pretty good, but the ASC needs some time to be broken in. The strum may have felt really mushy in the arcade, but it's optical, it's always going to feel like that. The thing is, when it starts moving really easy, it's really sensitive. That's when it hits the sweet spot and you can nail stuff like the hyperpicking in Over There (any difficulty). Otherwise it's just too stiff. Usually the ASC loosens up after a bit of playtime and recalibrates itself.

So basically, CS is harder than AC because the controller takes a bit of getting used to and most arcade operators I know don't keep Guitarfreaks on 4 difficulty because it's BRUTAL, but you can't change it on CS or it won't save.

So if you get good at CS guitarfreaks, you can totally expect to destroy it in the arcade. Tons of fun. :D

leather fedora
Jun 27, 2004

The closest acceptable translation is
"die properly"
Man, I can't wait to check out Gold. Those are some pretty sweet revivals and while I haven't heard the new collabs, they seem like they could be really good too.

As popular as Hirofumi Sasaki's songs are, you'd think that Konami would try to get him back for some new stuff.

Xythar
Dec 22, 2004

echoes of a contemporary nation
For those of you with Nicovideo accounts:

The Least 100sec [a]
Vanessa and Kamaitachi [a][a]

ahahahahahaha

Fishious
Jan 9, 2008

kimcicle posted:

So people with Play-Asia orders of just IIDX GOLD CS have been getting notifications that it has been shipped. Some people in Japan have already gotten their hands on it.

I wonder when the SE packs ship then, my status has changed to preparing order however it has 2nd of june as ETA for shipping and it doesn't come out till the 30th. Also they better not gently caress around with the posters like they did last time.

Edit: holy crap at the [A][A] charts.

Xythar
Dec 22, 2004

echoes of a contemporary nation
This user has autoplay videos of all the CS songs:
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=hl1auz&p=r

Dr VideoGames 0.299
Feb 15, 2007

i really think you're overestimating how much
i love having dog shit smushed all over my face
Payday this Friday. :) Can't wait to order.

kimcicle
Feb 23, 2003

Fishious posted:

I wonder when the SE packs ship then, my status has changed to preparing order however it has 2nd of june as ETA for shipping and it doesn't come out till the 30th. Also they better not gently caress around with the posters like they did last time.

Edit: holy crap at the [A][A] charts.

SEs have to first ship from Konamistyle to Play-Asia, and then get bounced towards you. And they always gently caress with the posters. They should just leave the LE bundle the way it is and then reship it out, like himeya (sp?) does.

Fishious
Jan 9, 2008

kimcicle posted:

SEs have to first ship from Konamistyle to Play-Asia, and then get bounced towards you. And they always gently caress with the posters. They should just leave the LE bundle the way it is and then reship it out, like himeya (sp?) does.

I was mostly referring to them shipping it seperately rather then in the same package, everything was in the same package with the HS bundles from Play-Asia. Only reasons why I don't go with Himeya is that they apprently charge your card before shipping on preorders and Hong Kong is closer to me.

leather fedora
Jun 27, 2004

The closest acceptable translation is
"die properly"
Man, this game is so good. They got some great 5-key revivals.

Now I just wish I could clear a Dan course higher than 5.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
I just want to take this opportunity to say that Play-Asia's customer service is fantastic. I preordered the Complete LE a while back, but recently had some financial issues that made me not have the money for my order when it came time for them to take the money yesterday. One e-mail explaining my situation later, they're holding my order until my paycheck on Friday for me even though they could probably sell my copy right now.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Lynx Winters posted:

I just want to take this opportunity to say that Play-Asia's customer service is fantastic. I preordered the Complete LE a while back, but recently had some financial issues that made me not have the money for my order when it came time for them to take the money yesterday. One e-mail explaining my situation later, they're holding my order until my paycheck on Friday for me even though they could probably sell my copy right now.

That's really, really awesome. :unsmith:

kimcicle
Feb 23, 2003

Fishious posted:

I was mostly referring to them shipping it seperately rather then in the same package, everything was in the same package with the HS bundles from Play-Asia. Only reasons why I don't go with Himeya is that they apprently charge your card before shipping on preorders and Hong Kong is closer to me.

Ugh. When I got my RED LE from Play-Asia, they sent me everything repackaged minus a poster. I emailed them and asked them where the hell was my poster. They said it shipped separately. I never got that poster, and lo and behold, Play-Asia all of the sudden had spare RED LE posters that they sold on their website for $20 plus shipping.

I went with Himeya this time around because they don't bother with messing with the KonamiStyle packaging and just bounce it straight to you. I have no issues with them charging my card either.

On that note, I just got an email from Himeya saying my LE should be shipped out within 48 hours. :dance:

dirby
Sep 21, 2004


Helping goons with math

Xythar posted:

For those of you with Nicovideo accounts:

The Least 100sec [a]
Vanessa and Kamaitachi [a][a]

ahahahahahaha
The Least 100sec is pretty funny.

Also, I love the comments, especially the ones referring to AUTOさん. E.g. "AUTOさんでもミスるんだね" in the Vanessa video.

DSMArisen
Sep 10, 2007
Make it make money!
Oh GOLD, if this were Canada, I'd make you my bride. :swoon:

Wait.. this is Canada.... :dance:

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LiquidRain
May 21, 2007

Watch the madness!

About 10 pages back there was a short discussion on IIDX on HDLoader boxes and that certain hard drives acted up while others didn't. Is there anyone here who can point to drives that *don't* dole out wonky timings? Gold is the first style in years to interest me.

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