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Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Maldraedior posted:

hey, Goblins has a guaranteed update on Friday! because he decided not to post the lastest two-pager all at once...

I also guarantee he will have some computer issues come Thursday mid-morning.

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Foodpie
Apr 20, 2006

And THAT is how you get rid of those hard to clean stains.
I think this last strip is a pretty clear sign that the party re-unification process is about to accelerate a bit. I think the Oracle did all of that for a reason other than to gently caress with Belkar. Or not. But I DO believe he is going to help get everybody back together.

ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Yes yes yes YES! I knew it! :neckbeard:

Man this comic would've really sucked without that witty smack-talking oracle. :)

I'd have to think that the memory enchantment wouldn't affect Roy. As a ghost he exists partially on the ethereal plane... if fireballs and such can't affect him, neither should the memory thing.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



ShadowCatboy posted:

Yes yes yes YES! I knew it! :neckbeard:

Man this comic would've really sucked without that witty smack-talking oracle. :)

I'd have to think that the memory enchantment wouldn't affect Roy. As a ghost he exists partially on the ethereal plane... if fireballs and such can't affect him, neither should the memory thing.
He can also get out without traveling through the boundaries of the effect and triggering it.

ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Zereth posted:

He can also get out without traveling through the boundaries of the effect and triggering it.

Hmmmm... now that I think about it, how did those lizard people go in and out, presumably without triggering the memory charm? Does it only kick in when you cross the line? Sounds like quite a hole in the Oracle's defenses. :raise:

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



ShadowCatboy posted:

Hmmmm... now that I think about it, how did those lizard people go in and out, presumably without triggering the memory charm? Does it only kick in when you cross the line? Sounds like quite a hole in the Oracle's defenses. :raise:
The wizard cast Teleport? EDIT: Or I suppose he might have been a sorcerer, or some other arcane caster, or female.

Mylan
Jun 19, 2002



The oracle might be able to allow certain people to retain all memories at his choosing. Such as, say, friendly wizards and clerics who will raise him at agreed upon times. Plus, I bet Xykon could come and go as he pleases, seeing as undead are immune to mind affecting spells.

BAWRLIN
Nov 23, 2003

He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long.

Mylan posted:

The oracle might be able to allow certain people to retain all memories at his choosing. Such as, say, friendly wizards and clerics who will raise him at agreed upon times. Plus, I bet Xykon could come and go as he pleases, seeing as undead are immune to mind affecting spells.

Xykon would forget for totally unrelated reasons.

LightWarden
Mar 18, 2007

Lander county's safe as heaven,
despite all the strife and boilin',
Tin Star,
Oh how she's an icon of the eastern west,
But now the time has come to end our song,
of the Tin Star, the Tin Star!
I don't think it's really a hole in the defenses, since in order to teleport, you have to be familiar with the destination or risk going somewhere else. Though I'm wondering how they familiarized themselves with the destination to begin with... maybe went in, teleported out.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Or maybe they're carrying an appointment book and, had the Oracle needed to apprise them of any changes, they could have just written them down. You guys make this way too complicated.

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Cabbit posted:

Or maybe they're carrying an appointment book and, had the Oracle needed to apprise them of any changes, they could have just written them down. You guys make this way too complicated.

But if it was that simple, what's keeping someone from writing things down on a second trip after finding out about the memory charm? I can't imagine the Oracle would have left that obvious a loophole in things.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Idran posted:

But if it was that simple, what's keeping someone from writing things down on a second trip after finding out about the memory charm? I can't imagine the Oracle would have left that obvious a loophole in things.

For some spells you can specify certain people, classes, races, or whatever to not be effected. For a spell that big, I would assume that people who are specifically invited in by the Oracle are immune to the memory charm.

And in most of the games I've played in, people always forget to buy parchment and quills before an adventure so they wouldn't be able to write it down.

CK07
Nov 8, 2005

bum bum BAA, bum bum, ba-bum ba baa..
I also wonder how the Oracle plans to gain that experience back - does he have a whole backyard full of appropriately-leveled creatures that he can just zap with a wand of fireballs until they die? He doesn't appear to have PC levels, so he probably can't fight.

Maldraedior
Jun 16, 2002

YOU ARE AN ASININE MORT
He probably gains XP for every vision he has, and I bet whatever he's planning to do with Roy involves some sort of XP gain. That and he really doesn't need that kobold village anymore so a few fireballs would do the trick

Shavnir
Apr 5, 2005

A MAN'S DREAM CAN NEVER DIE

Idran posted:

But if it was that simple, what's keeping someone from writing things down on a second trip after finding out about the memory charm? I can't imagine the Oracle would have left that obvious a loophole in things.

What memory charm? I remember having a great conversation with the dwarf.

Any mention of the memory charm is removed by the memory charm.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

CK07 posted:

I also wonder how the Oracle plans to gain that experience back - does he have a whole backyard full of appropriately-leveled creatures that he can just zap with a wand of fireballs until they die? He doesn't appear to have PC levels, so he probably can't fight.

Role Playing.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

goatface posted:

Role Playing.

Like anyone actually does that when there's mobs to kill.

hey girl you up
May 21, 2001

Forum Nice Guy

ShadowCatboy posted:

Hmmmm... now that I think about it, how did those lizard people go in and out, presumably without triggering the memory charm? Does it only kick in when you cross the line? Sounds like quite a hole in the Oracle's defenses. :raise:
They probably cast it in the first place. The Oracle obviously doesn't have the ability to do it.

ZorbaTHut
May 5, 2005

wake me when the world is saved

PFlats posted:

They probably cast it in the first place. The Oracle obviously doesn't have the ability to do it.

Does that mean that if the Oracle left the tower, he'd forget all about himself?

I presume it doesn't, but I'm going to pretend it does.

Maldraedior
Jun 16, 2002

YOU ARE AN ASININE MORT
did he come up the the idea to put the memory charm on the valley or did he see himself do it in the future and swiped the idea from himself?

JackGeneric
Apr 23, 2008

[Witty observation]

Maldraedior posted:

did he come up the the idea to put the memory charm on the valley or did he see himself do it in the future and swiped the idea from himself?

Did he do it himself or did he wait until he did it, then copied himself?

Maybe at some point, he realized it would be useful to have because of something he foresaw...

pseudosavior
Apr 14, 2006

Don't you do cocaine at ME,
you son of a bitch!

Taerkar posted:

Like anyone actually does that when there's mobs to kill.

I know this is a far way away from TG, but I swear to christ that if any player in a D&D game I'm running refers to an enemy as a "mob" (unless it is a large group of enemies, complete with torches and pitchforks), or their character as a "toon", I will loving burn their character sheet in front of them.


That being said, I also really want the group to get back together. This has had its share of ups and downs (and :downs: ) but it has gone on a bit too long.

ZorbaTHut
May 5, 2005

wake me when the world is saved

pseudosavior posted:

I know this is a far way away from TG, but I swear to christ that if any player in a D&D game I'm running refers to an enemy as a "mob" (unless it is a large group of enemies, complete with torches and pitchforks), or their character as a "toon", I will loving burn their character sheet in front of them.

So, you'd aggro on anyone using those terms? :v:

Neraren
Sep 15, 2006
Random Nerd #753897
I think you're making the memory charm a lot more complicated than it is. The terms of the charm were you only remember the answer to a question you asked the oracle, and their question was to confirm the next time he'd need them. Literally all they did was rez him, ask when he'd need a rez again, and leave. It seems like a pretty simple solution to me.

Enderwastaken
Oct 11, 2007

by angerbot
New one up

I don't remember that prediction, though I do recall him saying he wouldn't have too many more birthdays.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Enderwastaken posted:

New one up

I don't remember that prediction, though I do recall him saying he wouldn't have too many more birthdays.
He told Belkar to savor his next birthday cake.

ZorbaTHut
May 5, 2005

wake me when the world is saved
So, Belkar's going to become a sentient PC undead of some variety, then?

ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

ZorbaTHut posted:

So, Belkar's going to become a sentient PC undead of some variety, then?

Already happened. :)

Nosy_G
May 6, 2007

I bet that Roy will forget about the Oracle once he is rezzed.

SuperKlaus
Oct 20, 2005


Fun Shoe

Nosy_G posted:

I bet that Roy will forget about the Oracle once he is rezzed.

Yeah I can't believe that raised people would be allowed to retain everything they learned. It just doesn't seem to mesh with the restrictions on what ghosts are allowed to do and say to the living. Roy needs to remember some of this, though...maybe his dad will get the info to him somehow.

Sylphosaurus
Sep 6, 2007

SuperKlaus posted:

Yeah I can't believe that raised people would be allowed to retain everything they learned. It just doesn't seem to mesh with the restrictions on what ghosts are allowed to do and say to the living. Roy needs to remember some of this, though...maybe his dad will get the info to him somehow.
Maybe the charm only works if you walk into it. Since Roy got teleported back to the heavens he might avoid the whole loss of memory deal once he's ressurected.

Spaz mk. 2.0
Apr 19, 2005

Shank 'em if ya got 'em, fellas!

Sylphosaurus posted:

Maybe the charm only works if you walk into it. Since Roy got teleported back to the heavens he might avoid the whole loss of memory deal once he's ressurected.

The oracle probably didn't mess up and knows that once he gets raised he'll forget everything anyways.

Gally
May 31, 2001

Come on!
Argh, I want a new strip. All those days of rapid updates spoiled me. :(

ZorbaTHut
May 5, 2005

wake me when the world is saved

Gally posted:

Argh, I want a new strip. All those days of rapid updates spoiled me. :(

Both Dresden Codak and Erfworld have updated more recently than OOTS.

It is sad.

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe
:siren: New strip :siren:


Mirrored, just in case.

IMJack fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jul 7, 2008

rocketrobot
Jul 11, 2003

IMJack posted:


Mirrored, just in case.

Thanks for mirroring. That site goes down more than an aging porn star.

This has potential, but I hope the next few updates come out quickly to keep the slow pace bearable.

Gally
May 31, 2001

Come on!
Belkar is not looking good, looks like he has Mr. Scruffy to take care of him!

Mylan
Jun 19, 2002



Greysky city... that's where Haley worked as a thieve's guild member in On the Origin of PCs, right? Guessing Haley's gonna have a showdown with the goth assassin finally.

zero knowledge
Apr 27, 2008
I always forget that Belkar has that short orange hair and it freaks me out when he gets a close up.

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pseudosavior
Apr 14, 2006

Don't you do cocaine at ME,
you son of a bitch!
Yay for a fast grab on the mirror!

But I noticed that in the mirrored version, they're the Boots of Spped. In the version up on the website, the Boots have been fixed to Speed.

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