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Qweezy posted:
A stock wrangler can go a lot of places, at most you may need better tires for some stuff but hit your limits first. A stock wrangler kept up with H1's and Tricked out jeeps [with 35 and 37" tires and lifts] on black diamond trail near me, 2N17X with no issues. There was one or two spots he had to take the bypass around a tough obstacle, but it did well. A stock wrangler is up there with an H1, Unimog, Defender, etc. As an out of the show room off road truck. Besides, I see too many guys out there with 10-50 grand invested in their jeep that never go anywhere hard core enough that needs that equipment. Go stock until something breaks and replace it with something better. Proper off road driving technique is just as important. An experienced driver in a stock truck will go farther then a new guy in an expensive rig.
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I just realized something. In two weeks, I have gone from wanting a $3000 car to a $3,000 yj to a $7,000 dana 44 equipped 4.0 tj to wanting a $300 budget booster and now a $750 suspension kit... Seriously, you guys are poison.
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Jul 2, 2008 19:26
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NeerWas fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Jul 2, 2008 19:39
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Sindow posted:Get stock and build your way up, that way you can customize your Jeep the best and know that you did it the right way, the first time. Measure twice cut once. I am buying stock.. I will do all lifting and mods myself after I find a Dana 44 TJ. (buggers are hard to find for a good price!)
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Jul 2, 2008 20:01
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Qweezy posted:Also, I'd like to eventually take this guy out and do a littl off-roading. How much can I expect to spend to get started? From what I've read, taking a Wrangler out stock isn't the greatest idea in the world. Take her off road. Do it. The TJ was meant for that!! Also, keep those running boards on. I kept mine on my old TJ and figured I'd go until they were ripped off by a rock. They never were and actually worked as semi-decent rock-sliders. Just don't get too attached to them. (Little anecdote - I was on a trail with 3 other built Jeeps and my 'mostly' stock TJ. We passed some other people coming down and one person was all "How did you get that stock TJ up here? Holy poo poo! You still have your running boards?!") If you learn to drive it, that Wrangler will serve you well off-road. Plus, having both tops is a boon. Keep the soft-top on in the summer months and throw the hard-top on in the winter.
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Jul 2, 2008 21:25
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InitialDave posted:*In the USA. Yes The Defender is pretty badass. But throw me a decision between a 2008 Rubicon and a 08 Land Rover Defender and its a hard choice.
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Jul 2, 2008 21:32
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spiralbrain posted:Yes The Defender is pretty badass. But throw me a decision between a 2008 Rubicon and a 08 Land Rover Defender and its a hard choice. Hmm, the Jeep USA site lists a RHD Wrangler as a standard model, and it undercuts the UK base model by $16,000. Interesting... VVVV: My posts tend to be very  -flavoured. Yeah, the UK Rubicon is petrol/auto only, in a country where the majority of serious offroaders swear by manual 'boxed diesels. What's that about? 
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Jul 2, 2008 22:41
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InitialDave posted:... and the Rubicon is V6/auto only... No, you can get the Rubicon Unlimited with the 6-speed manual (in the US anyway, don't know about anywhere else).
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Jul 2, 2008 23:03
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ethanol posted:I just realized something. In two weeks, I have gone from wanting a $3000 car to a $3,000 yj to a $7,000 dana 44 equipped 4.0 tj to wanting a $300 budget booster and now a $750 suspension kit... Get used to it. My wish list is a lot bigger than my budget.
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Jul 2, 2008 23:27
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InitialDave posted:
Yeah they did it all wrong here. They didn't listen to their customers (no surprise) and make a stick diesel version. People would have paid handsomely for, I know I would have. Can you get the defender in a stick?? **Interesting tidbit, the engine that is in the new defender is also out of a minivan!! haha!! 
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Jul 2, 2008 23:46
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Hey guys, I just found a 97 TJ 4.0L with 82000 miles. It DOESN'T have a dana 44, but the price seems pretty drat good. $4200. What do yall think?
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Jul 2, 2008 23:50
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ethanol posted:Hey guys, I just found a 97 TJ 4.0L with 82000 miles. It DOESN'T have a dana 44, but the price seems pretty drat good. $4200. What's wrong with it? That seems awfully low for a 97 with that few miles. Unless the owner is just trying to get rid of it because of gas mileage.
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Jul 2, 2008 23:53
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Braincloud posted:What's wrong with it? That seems awfully low for a 97 with that few miles. Unless the owner is just trying to get rid of it because of gas mileage. As far as I can tell, nothing. I'll of course drive it before I get near to buying it.
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Jul 3, 2008 00:01
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spiralbrain posted:Can you get the defender in a stick??
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ethanol posted:As far as I can tell, nothing. I'll of course drive it before I get near to buying it. Hmmm... well, definitely get a carfax and a mechanic to check it over. At that price, something seems amiss. I would personally be tempted to pick it up and make it into a dedicated trail rig. $4200 is cheap!
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Jul 3, 2008 00:14
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NeerWas fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Jul 3, 2008 03:14
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Thanks for the help, guys. Looks like the deal's going through this week, and I'll be posting some nice shots once the Jeep is safe in my driveway.Boomerjinks posted:Sorry to bring this back up after so many pages, but good God man, that looks great! I actually began my love affair with Jeeps after watching Jurassic Park at the age of 10. It's been all downhill from there. Nice job! Also, I was wondering what the general consensus here is on the 4-door Wranglers. Part of me loves the idea; it's like the Cherokee/Wrangler hybrid I've always wanted. But part of me just can't help feeling that it's almost too much of a departure. I'd be interested to hear all of your opinions.
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Jul 3, 2008 06:54
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Does no one has any ideas on what those straps on my seats are for?
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Qweezy posted:Also, I was wondering what the general consensus here is on the 4-door Wranglers. Part of me loves the idea; it's like the Cherokee/Wrangler hybrid I've always wanted. But part of me just can't help feeling that it's almost too much of a departure. I'd be interested to hear all of your opinions. Personally, I can't stand them, but I suppose I could see the use for them. Sadly, I think the increased length will hinder you for more serious off-roading.
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The King of Swag posted:Sadly, I think the increased length will hinder you for more serious off-roading. There are a few obstacles on some well known trails where the opposite is true as well. I remember seeing one that's regularly shown in Four Wheeler where there are some steps that are almost perfectly aligned with the wheelbase of a standard Wrangler, making it an absolute bitch to climb with those but trivial for most anything else.
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Jul 3, 2008 14:36
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I need new wheels for my Cherokee! I lent my Jeep to my sister who proceeded to curb the ever living poo poo out of the passenger side wheels, losing both hubcaps, scouring the tires and gouging the poo poo out of the actual wheels. So I'm pissed but she's going to pay me for the damages so I figure, why not go the distance and finally put some slightly bigger wheels and tires on there? I'm not thinking a huge lift with 30" tires, just slightly beefier than stock as I don't have time to offroad as much as I'd like. What's I'd like is a reasonable recommendation for mild offroad and daily driving wheel/tire combo. I know you'll all suggest it but I'm not really interested in doing a lift kit, just slightly bigger wheels.
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Jul 3, 2008 21:35
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Rhyno posted:I need new wheels for my Cherokee! Huge lift with 30" tires? What kind of huge lift are you thinking of? 30" is pretty small in the world of off road tires. If you want slightly larger than stock with NO chance of rubbing, as long as your suspension isnt sagged, then go with 235/75/r15. 30" will be the most a stock cherokee can do with minimal rubbing. 31+ will rub lots without lifts and bumpstopping. Personally I'd go with 235's if you want no chance, and 30" if you dont mind adding a bigger bumpstop or a washer to your steering stop IF it rubs. Nothing major. Also for tire choice I'd go with BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO. Very popular tire, long tread life, not much noise, decent off road traction, and good in snow.
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Never buy a jeep at the beginning of a model year. 87 YJ still figuring out what the gently caress they were gonna use on this thing. 97 TJ some electrical problems and a few other transitional problems. 07 JK some of these burst into flames while driving down the road. Sure the 07 has recalls to to fix any problems but so far Jeep has stayed true to the beginning model year woes. If you wanted a YJ I'd say 92-95 w/ 4.0 a TJ Id say 00-04 /w 4.0. As for mounting dollar amounts. JEEP Just Empty Every Pocket or Jeeps Eat Every Penny With a TJ a BB and some 31's would be awesome. Throw an aussie locker up front, and BAM. awesome. (ps sway bar disconnects) As soon as I get my diamond plate cut and sent back to me I'll be posting about my cheapo home brew tube fenders. Will regular metal blades on a sawzall cut through 3/16 inch steel? Will I need lots of blades? I do not have access to plasma.(I have to shorten my rocker guard/sliders) Tossed_Salad_Man fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jul 3, 2008 |
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Jul 3, 2008 22:30
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MrZig posted:Huge lift with 30" tires? What kind of huge lift are you thinking of? 30" is pretty small in the world of off road tires. If you want slightly larger than stock with NO chance of rubbing, as long as your suspension isnt sagged, then go with 235/75/r15. I said not huge lift! There's a guy driving around town with a towering Cherokee that looks like it's going to tip over at every turn. I'm not looking to add much more than an inch or two to my ride height. Upgraded suspension is planned as well, probably in the fall. Something I forgot to ask before, as I've never bought new wheels before ever are there brands I should avoid? What would you recommend in new wheels?
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Jul 3, 2008 22:59
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Rhyno posted:I said not huge lift! There's a guy driving around town with a towering Cherokee that looks like it's going to tip over at every turn. I'm not looking to add much more than an inch or two to my ride height. Upgraded suspension is planned as well, probably in the fall.  My old 91XJ. It had a Pro Comp 2" lift, which was new coils up front add a leaf in the rear. It rode like a tank, but that's why pro comp is called pro crap. Those were AR outlawIIs and BFG 30.9.50s. Ramsey winch and bumper/grille guard. As for wheels go to 4wd.com or quadratec and look at the wheels there. Since most are jeep centric. I think the pattern should be 5x5.5.
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Rhyno posted:I said not huge lift! There's a guy driving around town with a towering Cherokee that looks like it's going to tip over at every turn. I saw it twice and never again. I should check the junkyard next time I'm there. OneOverZero fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jul 3, 2008 |
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Jul 3, 2008 23:42
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Tossed_Salad_Man posted:
I should've said not to post any pictures. drat you. Now I want bigger. And a winch. And a new bumper. drat you.
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Jul 3, 2008 23:45
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Well, drat.. I may need to delay my jeep a bit and buy this cheap nova ss, resell it and make 10 grand...
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Bolt pattern for stock XJ/YJ/TJ is 5x4.5 I think.
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Tossed_Salad_Man posted:Will regular metal blades on a sawzall cut through 3/16 inch steel? Will I need lots of blades? I do not have access to plasma.(I have to shorten my rocker guard/sliders) Yes, they will cut 3/16" steel, albeit slowly. I'm partial to the Milwaukee brand "Torch" metal cutting sawsall blades. If you're cutting fairly long straight lines, consider a metal-cutting abrasive saw blade for your 7" circular saw, or a metal-cutting abrasive blade for your angle grinder. This is an abrasive circular saw blade, if you're not familiar with them: http://www.mikestools.com/DW3511-DeWalt-7-x-1-8-Metal-Abrasive-Saw-Blade.aspx Commonly available at most home improvement stores, welding supply shops etc.
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Local classifieds:quote:
I've been wanting an old Willy's for awhile.. There's one a few blocks away from my house too, though it's not for sale. I'd love an old Willy's, and it seems like it's pretty cheap too. Hm. If anyone lives in the Okanagan (BC) area, buy it! ..then give it to me.
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If I get the Superior Super Dana 35 kit, can I keep ABS?
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Jul 7, 2008 01:41
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Rhyno posted:I should've said not to post any pictures. Yeah you should have. 5.5" lift on 33" tires and loving every minute of it. 
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Guess what guys, I killed a 4.0 today. I loving hydrolocked it and threw the #1 rod straight out of the oilpan. Anyone want to buy my Jeep for parts?
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Jack_Handey posted:Guess what guys, I killed a 4.0 today. I loving hydrolocked it and threw the #1 rod straight out of the oilpan. Anyone want to buy my Jeep for parts? You must have completely filled the cylinders with water. Wow.
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The King of Swag posted:You must have completely filled the cylinders with water. Wow. Thats the thing, I didn't, only the first cylinder had water in it, and I didn't dare to try and start it without pulling the plugs first. When I cranked it over to shoot the water out I heard an awful CLUNK and looked at the oilpan and saw two holes in it right under my #1 cylinder. I must've just gotten really unlucky because I've had Jeeps get a LOT more water in them and run fine afterwards, and I've definitely been through deeper holes and been fine. So really, how much do you guys think I could get for a stripped 91 XJ with a blown motor, AX15 tranny, 3" lift, almost new 33's, non-disco 30 front, and a welded D44 rear?
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Jack_Handey posted:Thats the thing, I didn't, only the first cylinder had water in it, and I didn't dare to try and start it without pulling the plugs first. When I cranked it over to shoot the water out I heard an awful CLUNK and looked at the oilpan and saw two holes in it right under my #1 cylinder. I must've just gotten really unlucky because I've had Jeeps get a LOT more water in them and run fine afterwards, and I've definitely been through deeper holes and been fine. That sucks. Where ya located?
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Jack_Handey posted:Thats the thing, I didn't, only the first cylinder had water in it, and I didn't dare to try and start it without pulling the plugs first. When I cranked it over to shoot the water out I heard an awful CLUNK and looked at the oilpan and saw two holes in it right under my #1 cylinder. I must've just gotten really unlucky because I've had Jeeps get a LOT more water in them and run fine afterwards, and I've definitely been through deeper holes and been fine. I'd purchase it if you live within 200 miles of me, needed one with an AX15 for my next conversion project
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MrZig posted:Local classifieds: For $2500 you had better be getting that GREAT body he's talking about. EACH rusted out body panel takes around $750-1000 off the total value of a willys. Everything except the front fenders and the hood is the body tub and you're talking chop and weld to replace things like the rear wheel wells. I'd take a look at it, but it's not a great deal for a nonrunning 60 year old car.
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