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Hey could anyone tell me how to go about isolating tracks from songs. Also, is it possible to do this using ableton live or sonar 7? I'm new at this and any help or suggestions would be great.
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Lemon Groove posted:Hey could anyone tell me how to go about isolating tracks from songs. Also, is it possible to do this using ableton live or sonar 7? I'm new at this and any help or suggestions would be great. You can't!  You can _sometimes_ extract some parts, but that's the exception, not the rule. Usually it's acapellas that are extracted. There's a good guide on acapella extraction on YouTube. HTH
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Jul 29, 2008 23:46
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Remixers get the vocals or track parts from the artist/studio themselves and aren't allowed to hand 'm out. Some of 'm leak, though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFCjv4_jqAY this won't do the job for you either (well, it can do it but the sound quality will suffer and it depends on the separation of the instruments). Solution: get the sheet music or learn to listen and transcribe.
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Jul 30, 2008 00:15
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Or plan your remixes around the parts you can get. Not useful if you just want to do the original song with a fat bassline or whatever, but you can make cool sounding stuff if you take a bar of the chorus and turn it into a filtered swell, etc.
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Jul 30, 2008 04:42
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So my micrkontrol randomly stopped working with Reason. It works fine with everything else, and midikeys works fine with Reason so Reason still accepts midi commands, but the microkontrol just refuses to work with Reason. No clue why, and I've double checked that everything is set up right in the control surfaces dialog (including deleting it and rescanning). Any ideas? Did I just trip some option I don't know about or something? EDIT: Oops I had changed the MIDI channel on the microkontrol when I was using it with my EMX, and I hadn't turned it back to channel 01. Apparently Reason didn't appreciate that. nah thanks fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jul 31, 2008 |
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Jul 31, 2008 05:57
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I'm more into producing hiphop beats with FL studios, and there's a few problems I run into along the way, usually. One is, I've seen you guys mention "beef up your kicks" or snares, but I really have no idea how to do this, and it'd be nice if someone could give me a few helpful hints. 2, can anyone link to any site that has a lot of free drum sounds? The sites I do have have lovely ones, or ones I'm not really looking for, too "real" sounding, I've been looking for decent electronic sounding drums for awhile. If anyone could help, thanks a lot.
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Jul 31, 2008 07:34
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modernlifeisadam posted:One is, I've seen you guys mention "beef up your kicks" or snares, but I really have no idea how to do this, and it'd be nice if someone could give me a few helpful hints. Layer sounds - use different samples for one drum beat and then shape the sound from that. So with a snare you might use 3 samples, one for the initial hit, one for the "crack" and one for the "crunch". Sorry I can't be more technical there  Then use compression and a little reverb to give the loop some life. Personal request too - I've just picked up a Korg Electribe MX and I'm having fun without while working out what I can do. Just wondering if anyone has one/has used one and if they had any tips or pointers?
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Jul 31, 2008 08:09
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glitchkrieg posted:Layer sounds - use different samples for one drum beat and then shape the sound from that. So with a snare you might use 3 samples, one for the initial hit, one for the "crack" and one for the "crunch". Sorry I can't be more technical there Thanks a lot, man. But actually another question, anyone familiar with the VST Albino, how the hell can I take some reverb OFF of a particular preset, the whole VST is completely greek to me.;/
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Jul 31, 2008 09:30
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modernlifeisadam posted:anyone familiar with the VST Albino, how the hell can I take some reverb OFF of a particular preset, the whole VST is completely greek to me.;/  Anyhow, the four effects units are at the bottom left. Click through them to find the reverb (usually the last active one) and adjust the wet/dry ratio accordingly.
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Jul 31, 2008 10:26
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modernlifeisadam posted:but I really have no idea how to do this quote:to any site that has a lot of free drum sounds http://www.ueberschall.com/ http://www.zero-g.co.uk/
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Jul 31, 2008 15:25
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glitchkrieg posted:Personal request too - I've just picked up a Korg Electribe MX and I'm having fun without while working out what I can do. Just wondering if anyone has one/has used one and if they had any tips or pointers?
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Aug 1, 2008 01:11
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the delays on electribes are awesome, i melted mine and i really just miss the delay
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Aug 1, 2008 03:55
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What's the best MIDI routing software these days? Free or otherwise. Thanks!
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Aug 2, 2008 05:32
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What do you mean by "routing"? As in, you have a bunch of MIDI devices, a MIDI interface, and you want to connect port X to Y?
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Aug 2, 2008 08:45
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What's your guys' opinion on the Addictive Drums VST? Does anyone here use it with any sort of frequency? Actually, what VST would you guys recommend that will let me get a good electronic drum sound, because everything in the AD VST just sounds way too acoustic modernlifeisadam fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Aug 2, 2008 |
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Aug 2, 2008 10:02
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Yoozer posted:What do you mean by "routing"? As in, you have a bunch of MIDI devices, a MIDI interface, and you want to connect port X to Y? I need to route MIDI data on my PC, internally. I know macs do this natively, but I need a program like MIDI Yoke or MIDI ox and I was just wondering which one is the best right now. More specifically, I'm using Bomes MIDI Translator and I need to send the MIDI data to Ableton. Elder fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Aug 2, 2008 |
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Aug 2, 2008 19:41
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I use Maple, it doesn't work for 64-bit Windows though, so it's no use if you're using v64/xp64. http://www.hurchalla.com/Maple_driver.html
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Aug 2, 2008 21:33
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
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Aug 2, 2008 21:37
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So I downloaded a set of 8 bit refills for Reason a while ago, and I just rediscovered them while working on a song. Combining the samples with more traditional synths is sounding absolutely wicked. The sounds are so fun that I've started to look into 8 bit synths and trackers, and I've pretty much settled on getting Nanoloop or LSDJ since I already own the hardware. Anyone have any familiar with these sequencers? What's better or worse about each? Any good alternatives? A lot of what I've read isn't particularly helpful, but I'm leaning towards Nanoloop because it has a nice looking interface and I'm not particularly familiar with trackers. However, I don't necessarily want to limit myself in terms of what I can do given the cost of a cartridge, and what I've read has mentioned that Nanoloop is a bit limited compared to LSDJ. EDIT: Also, has anyone used NitroTracker? The ability to transmit MIDI over wifi is intriguing. nah thanks fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Aug 5, 2008 |
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Aug 5, 2008 15:39
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So it's the peak of summer, what have you guys come up with in your (hopefully) free time? I've been working away at this house track, and hope to have more experiments well on the way.
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Aug 8, 2008 10:30
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squidgee posted:So I downloaded a set of 8 bit refills for Reason a while ago, and I just rediscovered them while working on a song. Combining the samples with more traditional synths is sounding absolutely wicked. The sounds are so fun that I've started to look into 8 bit synths and trackers, and I've pretty much settled on getting Nanoloop or LSDJ since I already own the hardware. I can't really help you I'm afraid, but can I ask what the 8 bit refills were, and if they're free? I've been wanting some decent ones.
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Aug 8, 2008 11:25
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This is a crosspost from another music board. I'm having a problem setting up Live with a Korg KONTROL49.quote:So i'm trying to move into creating my own music now with a different DAW. Got myself a Korg Kontrol49 controller and Ableton Live 7 as well as this book. Been reading through everything that I can find to get this all setup and working, book, manual, korg forums & ableton forums.
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squidgee posted:So I downloaded a set of 8 bit refills for Reason a while ago, and I just rediscovered them while working on a song. Combining the samples with more traditional synths is sounding absolutely wicked. The sounds are so fun that I've started to look into 8 bit synths and trackers, and I've pretty much settled on getting Nanoloop or LSDJ since I already own the hardware. quote:EDIT: Also, has anyone used NitroTracker? The ability to transmit MIDI over wifi is intriguing. Your in NYC, right? We'll have to jam some time.
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Aug 8, 2008 15:12
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NitroTracker is loving amazing and is one of the easiest music programs I have ever used, plus it's insanely in depth.. editing wavs, volume, a sampler.. the whole deal. Amazing. That and the new Korg DS-10 have put the DS on the map as a legitimate music making device. If only you could record riffs from the Korg to a flash cart.. because then you could use the sampler to put those into NitroTracker without ever having to touch your laptop. You could make an entire loving album without ever leaving your DS.
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Aug 10, 2008 03:56
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Just to add a little bit about layering sounds... for example, drums: 1)Try eq'ing or filtering the different layers to highlight the parts of those sounds that you like (or better, subtract everything but what you like about the sound) 2)Not really for kick drums, but with claps, snares, and such, you can mess with the timing of the hit for different layers. For example, if you were making a clap out of three different samples, you could slightly nudge the timing of one of them, say slightly before the beat, to emphasize its attack.
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Aug 10, 2008 08:42
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audiom101 posted:Just to add a little bit about layering sounds... for example, drums: I use number 2 on ever percussion element in every one of my songs. Also helps you hear the click of the kick, too, so it emphasizes the kick drum if that's what you're aiming to do.
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I Dig Gardening posted:NitroTracker is loving amazing and is one of the easiest music programs I have ever used, plus it's insanely in depth.. editing wavs, volume, a sampler.. the whole deal. Amazing. Check out protein DS as well. I havnt got it working yet, but it looks loving awesome.
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Aug 10, 2008 10:24
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audiom101 posted:Just to add a little bit about layering sounds... for example, drums: Something still confuses me about layering sounds. I get the theory of it, but can someone do a quick run through of how to layer samples in Reason?
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Altoidss posted:Something still confuses me about layering sounds. I get the theory of it, but can someone do a quick run through of how to layer samples in Reason? open multiple REdrums and put diff samples in each one, and then set them up to run on the same midi pattern. there may be an easier way, im not a reason head
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Aug 10, 2008 18:18
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oredun posted:open multiple REdrums and put diff samples in each one, and then set them up to run on the same midi pattern. Exactly. Now to shift the timing, you can go to the sequencer and manually adjust each note's position. To do this, of course you will have needed to record some notes into the sequencer instead of just playing the ReDrum machine as is. Another way to do this once you have notes in the sequencer is to open the ReGroove Mixer (in Reason 4). Now if you look on the left-hand side of the sequencer, for your track there is a scroll down list next to the record button labeled "select groove." You then just choose a channel corresponding to one in the ReGroove mixer. Now go to that channel and adjust the "slide" knob. Voila!
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Aug 10, 2008 18:59
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I hate reason with a passion but if anyone has any Ableton specific production questions I'd be happy to help. I never layer sounds though.. you will never hear more than one kick, one snare in any of my songs. Although claps I do layer occasionally.
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Hey guys, here's my first attempt at electronic music production: Superpose - Beautiful (Discobot Remix) It's a remix we (me and a friend) made for a local duo, both good friends of ours. We tried to take the original song and shoehorn it into a simple bloghouse banger. It's the very first thing either of us produced, so I'd really appreciate your criticism. Right off the bat, I'd like to acknowledge a few things I'm not happy about it that we're definitely changing for the next production: - Drums: Patterns are too simple, kick sounds bad and could use compression - First "heavy" part after the first verse goes for too long without variation, could be 4 bars shorter - Mastering: did it at home, learned a lot then realized I'd have to go over the mixing all over again to get it right. I also hear a some stray frequencies, from the synths we made - It simple: it's a small amount of simple layers Being the first thing we produced, even with the problems mentioned above I'm pretty happy with the result. Worked on the dancefloor, not much more we can ask for at this stage. The original is here, if you'd like to see what we were working with: http://www.zshare.net/audio/9135319fbafb94/ We basically took vocals and the bass melody (played through a synth we made). Oh, and the remix was made with Ableton and Reason, using Rewire (which I'm sure I'll use in another way completely next time).
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Aug 10, 2008 20:07
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Looking for some feedback on a track I'm working on. Ive hit a brick wall where I don't know how to take the track or where to go with it which seems to be something a lot of people talk about. I think the transitions are a bit awkward in the beginning as well and its plaguing the song. The melody that starts at 1 minute might be a little weak I'm thinking.  Let me know what you think/suggestions for arrangement,etc.
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CodeMaster posted:Hey guys, here's my first attempt at electronic music production: If you already know what you don't like about the track.. then work your rear end off for the next three weeks and come back when YOU think the track is perfect, THEN ask for some friendly construction help. I've found it works better that way, but maybe that's just me.
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Aug 12, 2008 05:20
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I Dig Gardening posted:If you already know what you don't like about the track.. then work your rear end off for the next three weeks and come back when YOU think the track is perfect, THEN ask for some friendly construction help. I've found it works better that way, but maybe that's just me. I've never thought anything I made was perfect, and as I said, despite of the problems listed I was happy with how it turned out and decided it was the time to stop working on it. My request for criticism had the objective of highlighting things I didn't complain about or notice before. e: i english gud aborn fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Aug 12, 2008 |
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Altoidss posted:Something still confuses me about layering sounds. I get the theory of it, but can someone do a quick run through of how to layer samples in Reason? I typically use a 3 layered kick drum in my songs I create in reason. One layer for the sharp attack, one layer for the 'crunch', and one layer with a long decay, low attack, deep sub-bass sond (usually an 808 kick). I will take the CV out from channel 1 of Re:Drum #1 (or whatever I'm using to program the kick pattern in the song...but it's usually re:drum#1) and run it into a Spider CV splitter/merger and split that signal into 3, and then run each of those three cv signals into a second Re:Drum that contains the 3 kick layer samples. Another way you can do it is making a multi-sample patch using either of the samplers.
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Man, I don't use any layers for kick drums. :\ Just the one sound straight from the drum machine or the mic and then a tonne of wave editing and post processing if necessary. I tried layering drums for ages and I never found it to be a reliable way to make drum sounds that I liked. Mostly I couldn't tell how they would turn out until they...turned out and half the time the result was unusable or horrendous sounding.
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You should really give it another try, it helped my kicks tremendously. Maybe try and slice the punch from one kickdrum together with the tail from another in a wave editor. Or i dunno. What I did was set up a dedicated project file for layering kicks and just pull every stop I could. Non-realtime compression, checking against signal analysis, waveform surgery like filtering single peaks, etc. Spending an hour or two on a single kick sounds like a really stupid idea but once you do it and it works, it's gonna pay off.
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wayfinder posted:You should really give it another try, it helped my kicks tremendously. Maybe try and slice the punch from one kickdrum together with the tail from another in a wave editor. Or i dunno. What I did was set up a dedicated project file for layering kicks and just pull every stop I could. Non-realtime compression, checking against signal analysis, waveform surgery like filtering single peaks, etc. Spending an hour or two on a single kick sounds like a really stupid idea but once you do it and it works, it's gonna pay off. From what I've read in Computer Music, a lot of top artists do it this way, build up a libarary of reliable processed kicks and then use them when starting a new track - before processing them even further. Seems like a good way to do things but I'm pretty lazy - I really need to go through my samples and get rid of the crappy ones. Mind you, this is part of the reason why I bought the Electribe MX I mentioned earlier in the thread as I've found it's limited sample library actually helps as I have less to "procrastinate" with.
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Try googling Ian Carey and look for vids. There is a really nice one floating around out there that goes into great detail about how he programs his drums for house music. It's around 45 minutes long if I recall.
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