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stun runner
Oct 3, 2006

by mons all madden
Anyone have personal experience with this? It's a Tascam firewire interface and a DAW controller with motorized faders all in one. Looks pretty good from here.

http://www.zzounds.com/item--TASFW1082

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skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

nimper posted:

What you're wanting to do is possible, sure, but why don't your friends have their own gear?
They do, but it would be much easier if they could just pick up mine and play instead of wrestling a shitload of gear in and out of my house.

Would you be able to do this relatively easily with a Mac Pro, Pro Tools and a Digidesign 003 interface, running multiple instances of Amplitube with Absynth/Ivory/etc.? In this scenario, where is the post-processing mixing done before the signal is output to the monitors? In Pro Tools?

skeevy achievements fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jul 29, 2008

Steiler Drep
Nov 30, 2004
what?

oval office Puncher posted:

They do, but it would be much easier if they could just pick up mine and play instead of wrestling a shitload of gear in and out of my house.

Would you be able to do this relatively easily with a Mac Pro, Pro Tools and a Digidesign 003 interface, running multiple instances of Amplitube with Absynth/Ivory/etc.? In this scenario, where is the post-processing mixing done before the signal is output to the monitors? In Pro Tools?

Yeah, pretty much.

iamlark
Feb 24, 2007
huh?

strangefool posted:

I have a simple, noobish question. What harm, if any, could come from me recording to an external USB drive that also contains all my sample libraries? Does anyone else here use a setup like that?

You should be fine from my experience, as long as it's USB 2.0 of course (can you even record with USB 1?). I only have one external drive, so it holds all of my libraries and session data. I haven't had a problem yet. We also have a similar set up at the studio, recording goes to an internal drive that holds samples as well. I haven't seen any problems yet, but we also hardly use our samples.

bassguitarhero
Feb 29, 2008

Does anyone know about getting the RPG-8 in Reason 4 to work? I've been trying for days but I can't get this thing to work.

From the book it says to open up a synth like Malstrom or Subtractor, then create an RPG-8 and it will automatically hook every thing up, which it does. I checked my cables and they're laid out like the pictures in the book.

but when I start futzing on the keyboard, nothing's going through the RPG-8. It's just not happening. Do I have to flip some switch or turn something on to get it to happen?

codyclarke
Jan 10, 2006

IDIOT SOUP
I'm gonna start recording a weekly podcast, and I want it to sound as good as it can sound with the equipment I have, which isn't exactly ideal.

The show is going to be three people on a couch talking.

I have:

A pair of Samson C02's.
A Rode NT2A.
A pop filter.
A straight mic stand.
Two boom stands.
A mixer with enough channels for this going into Pro Tools LE.

I'm thinking I'll put the NT2A in the center on the straight stand about 5 feet from the couch, and the C02's on booms left and right of the couch. Any smarter suggestions or tips would be great, I'm new to this kind of set up.

codyclarke fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Aug 2, 2008

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den
For people talking you're going to want each person to have a mic right in front of their face.

Here's uncle Howard to show you how it's done.

codyclarke
Jan 10, 2006

IDIOT SOUP

nimper posted:

For people talking you're going to want each person to have a mic right in front of their face.

Here's uncle Howard to show you how it's done.

Yeah but do I really want people talking into Samson C02's? Or maybe I do. Someone educate me.

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den

codyclarke posted:

Yeah but do I really want people talking into Samson C02's? Or maybe I do. Someone educate me.
Well, no, not really. If you get two more of the Rodes then you'll be good :v:

RivensBitch
Jul 25, 2002

Simple physics of sound. The further the mic is from the direct source, the louder the ambient reflections will be in relation to the level of the direct source. This will make your direct source sound more "distant" and "echoey".

Chutch
Jan 1, 2008
<img src="https://forumimages.somethingawful.com/images/newbie.gif" border=0>
I use Dell XPC 1530. Is the sound card not good enough for using Ableton 7? Every time I use one of my devices, there is disturbance.
The weird is, the disturbance occurs in a rythm (Hope you folks understand what I am trying to tell here).

The other option is me loving up in preferences.

Chutch fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Aug 4, 2008

codyclarke
Jan 10, 2006

IDIOT SOUP
Follow up: The recording went a lot better than I thought it would, given my microphone limitations! I changed the set up a bit:

- Had the two co-hosts sit on the couch, each speaking closely into their respective Samson C02 with a wind screen on each.

- Sat in a chair facing them, using the Rode NT2A and a pop filter for myself.

- In Pro Tools LE I used a Vocal Comp, Vocal Leveler, Normalize, and D-Verb at about 35%, lowest decay.

The Samsons blew me away. The Rode obviously sounds better, but I was truly impressed by them. Anyone on a budget trying to set up a podcast, I'd suggest them for co-hosts, especially since it's only $119 for a pair.

Here's the first segment of the podcast, for those that wanna hear how the recording came out, or feel like listening to three friends' first foray into radio: http://www.codyclarke.com/ep1/ep1seg1.mp3

And the rest of the segments of the first episode, if you happen to enjoy what you just listened to and want more: http://cody-clarke.blogspot.com/2008/08/cody-clarke-podcast-show-episode-one.html

Again, any helpful hints any of you guys might have for me as far as making this sound better, I'd love some advice. Thank you!

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den
That does sound pretty good. The Samsons really aren't meant for close-miking, but they sound fine for what you need.

Rascal
Feb 18, 2004

What's the cheapest (preferably free) and most intuitive (think FruityLoops, I can read and write on staff but seeing blocks etc and thinking of it that way is easier) way to make old school .mid Midi files?

RivensBitch
Jul 25, 2002

If you want to be old school you could use a mod tracker. A simple google search for "freeware mod tracker" returned: http://www.berotracker.de

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

Da Monk posted:

I use Dell XPC 1530. Is the sound card not good enough for using Ableton 7?

All on-board soundcards and Fraudigies and X-fails - there are no exceptions - suck for making music. Get yourself a nice USB or Firewire soundcard (shop at a music store, not at Newegg or something) and the stuttering will be over; as a stopgap measure (not actually recommended), use ASIO4ALL. This does not solve the biggest issue which is that the A/D converters suck and that the inputs can't deal with guitars, microphones, or more than 2 instruments at a time.

infiniteseal posted:

Does anyone know about getting the RPG-8 in Reason 4 to work? I've been trying for days but I can't get this thing to work.
From the back, the RPG's Gate CV and Note CV out should both go into the synth's Sequencer Control - Gate and CV ins at the very minimum. Also, in your sequencer, the newly created track Arp 1 should be active. Also, when the Pattern light is lit, some of the steps have to be lit otherwise you won't hear anything. Is the RPG switched on, and if so, does the MIDI IN light blink?

bassguitarhero
Feb 29, 2008

Here are some screenies from one of the setups. I've tried it with pattern on and off. The MIDI IN light never blinks.

My setup is ProTools as my sequencer, using an O2 keyboard to trigger. When I play the keyboard, Thor (or whatever other prog) will sound, it's just that the RPG-8 never goes.


Vetinari
Mar 25, 2006

by Fistgrrl
Awright, I'm just starting to get into this. I've been reading through this thread slowly to ease myself into the world of musicmaking, but I haven't seen this question yet (admittedly I'm 1/2 through).


Is there a good program that can convert my computer keyboard into a piano? Or even other instruments?


Edit: I've been told by a few people to use Silarius, so I'm giving that a try now.

Vetinari fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Aug 9, 2008

Satan Himself
Nov 12, 2003
Lord Of The Underworld
Hey, I have a really dumb question, I read through a lot of this thread and I still did not find an answer. What I'm trying to do is get my microphone to record onto my computer. I have a dynamic microphone, its an Apex 750, it is not a very good mic, but i'm poor so its all I really have. I have bought some converters to convert the XLR jack plug to a 1/8 inch jack for my computer but when I go to record it does not record anything. I'm just trying to record a few acoustic guitar riffs and some vocals for on top of them. If anyone can just help me figure this out id really appreciate it.

Chuck N. Awe
Oct 6, 2007

Satan Himself posted:

Hey, I have a really dumb question, I read through a lot of this thread and I still did not find an answer. What I'm trying to do is get my microphone to record onto my computer. I have a dynamic microphone, its an Apex 750, it is not a very good mic, but i'm poor so its all I really have. I have bought some converters to convert the XLR jack plug to a 1/8 inch jack for my computer but when I go to record it does not record anything. I'm just trying to record a few acoustic guitar riffs and some vocals for on top of them. If anyone can just help me figure this out id really appreciate it.

Dynamic mics need to be put in an input that can provide gain to work (a preamp). Mics don't give much signal, especially dynamic mics, so you need to amplify the signal from your mic to be able to record it. Your 1/8 jack has no preamp.

bassguitarhero
Feb 29, 2008

Vetinari posted:

Awright, I'm just starting to get into this. I've been reading through this thread slowly to ease myself into the world of musicmaking, but I haven't seen this question yet (admittedly I'm 1/2 through).


Is there a good program that can convert my computer keyboard into a piano? Or even other instruments?


Edit: I've been told by a few people to use Silarius, so I'm giving that a try now.

Garageband will do this on a mac.

EDIT: BTW, you can find keyboards really cheap - I do all my playing on an M-Audio O2 that cost me like $120. It's only 2 octaves, but it's super portable, USB powered and works pretty decently. I'm planning on getting a full-size keyboard one of these days, but for now it's more than adequate for composing and recording.

bassguitarhero fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Aug 9, 2008

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

infiniteseal posted:

My setup is ProTools as my sequencer, using an O2 keyboard to trigger. When I play the keyboard, Thor (or whatever other prog) will sound, it's just that the RPG-8 never goes.

:siren: Solution found, try this:

When I rewire Reason in Ableton Live, it offers me a list of MIDI outputs in the dropdown. Here it looks like this:



Ableton happily pipes the entire MIDI stream to anything in Reason with an orifice. PT apparently won't, so you have to explicitly select the RPG.

bassguitarhero
Feb 29, 2008

That did it, thanks! I was wondering what the hell was going on, the setup was the same as in all the pictures in the manual and every thing. Phew, now I can start playing around with it. Thanks dude

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den

Vetinari posted:

Edit: I've been told by a few people to use Silarius, so I'm giving that a try now.
So everyone knows what you're talking about, it's Sibelius.

Vetinari
Mar 25, 2006

by Fistgrrl

infiniteseal posted:

Garageband will do this on a mac.

EDIT: BTW, you can find keyboards really cheap - I do all my playing on an M-Audio O2 that cost me like $120. It's only 2 octaves, but it's super portable, USB powered and works pretty decently. I'm planning on getting a full-size keyboard one of these days, but for now it's more than adequate for composing and recording.

Thanks for the info, I will definitely be looking into that. At the moment, however, what I really need is something easy and portable for my laptop. I will likely get a midi-style keyboard too for home stuff.

Sco Dylan
Feb 27, 2003

Help me help you
I'm using Adobe Audition to mix a few tracks that I'm just throwing together for fun, and I'm using Waves Diamond Bundle to clean up the vocals a bit, but only one thing that is bothering me. How can I make the vocals more "wet"? On the effects rack I have it set all the way up, but the vocals are still a bit dull or subdued. Anything in Waves Diamond Bundle that would easily do this without compromising the basic sound I've got going?

porcellus
Oct 28, 2004
oh wait, wrong chat window

Yoozer posted:

All on-board soundcards and Fraudigies and X-fails - there are no exceptions - suck for making music. Get yourself a nice USB or Firewire soundcard (shop at a music store, not at Newegg or something) and the stuttering will be over; as a stopgap measure (not actually recommended), use ASIO4ALL. This does not solve the biggest issue which is that the A/D converters suck and that the inputs can't deal with guitars, microphones, or more than 2 instruments at a time.

Does an integrated soundcard have anything to do with making music? Is the entire job transferred through the external audio interface? (I hope this is what you mean by soundcard). I'm buying an IBM thinkpad later on this month, I already have a Presonus Audiobox, and I'm just confused on what qualities and areas of a computer relies on most for sound production and latency.

Rashomon
Jun 21, 2006

This machine kills fascists
This thread is great, but does anyone frequent any serious home recording type forums that I could lurk for a while and soak up some knowledge? I'm looking to upgrade my studio and want a good place to do research.

33rd Degree Idiot
Sep 17, 2007

Scion of an ancestral procession of idiots stretching back to the Missing Link

Rashomon posted:

This thread is great, but does anyone frequent any serious home recording type forums that I could lurk for a while and soak up some knowledge? I'm looking to upgrade my studio and want a good place to do research.

Here are some great sites that I visit. Not all of these are forums, but many of them have great forums and communities as well.

http://studioforums.com/eve/ubb.x

http://www.tweakheadz.com/ - This is a GREAT site, and the forums are top notch. Very, very helpful.

http://www.audioforums.com/forums/

http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/ - I don't frequent this one as much, but it does have a lot of content. Seems more geared towards electronic music and so on.

http://homerecording.com/bbs/ - One of the classics.

http://www.hometracked.com/ - Pretty cool blog style page.

http://www.soundonsound.com/forum - Good magazine, good forum too.

http://mixonline.com/ - Another pretty good magazine.

http://www.eqmag.tv/ - USED to be a good magazine. Now it's about an 8th of an inch thick and mostly ads, but oh well. Still a pretty cool website though.

http://bamaudioschool.com/ - I have learned a TON here....but he rarely updates anymore. Still great though, highly recommended.


That's just a few to get you started. My recording bookmarks are pretty extensive though.

Hogscraper
Nov 6, 2004

Audio master

Rashomon posted:

This thread is great, but does anyone frequent any serious home recording type forums that I could lurk for a while and soak up some knowledge? I'm looking to upgrade my studio and want a good place to do research.
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com

Rashomon
Jun 21, 2006

This machine kills fascists
That is so much! Thanks a ton guys.

hmmxkrazee
Sep 9, 2006
why
I have a AKG PErception condenser hooked up to a Line 6 Toneport UX2 and the recording volume is kinda low. I use Audacity and the little zigzag lines (whatever they're called) are pretty small. Compressing them makes them loud enough but I'm guessing that's not the best way to do it. Any way to bring up the volume so it records louder? And I only get sound out of one ear on the headphones but I read that's cause mics are only one side.. if there's anyway I can get both sides, that'd be great.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

hmmxkrazee posted:

I have a AKG PErception condenser hooked up to a Line 6 Toneport UX2 and the recording volume is kinda low. I use Audacity and the little zigzag lines (whatever they're called) are pretty small. Compressing them makes them loud enough but I'm guessing that's not the best way to do it. Any way to bring up the volume so it records louder? And I only get sound out of one ear on the headphones but I read that's cause mics are only one side.. if there's anyway I can get both sides, that'd be great.

Is the Mic 1 knob on the ux2 turned up, have you tried turning up the volume on whatever preamp you are using in gearbox?

Sco Dylan
Feb 27, 2003

Help me help you
I'm using Adobe Audition to mix a song me and a friend did, but I've encountered a strange problem.

My computer gets choppy as hell once I have a few processors and such on each track, so what I've been doing is mixing a verse at a time with all the effects, compressors and everything how I want it. Then I'll bounce it to a new stereo track and delete the originals, so then I don't need all the effects running and what not (and my computer will actually play it).

Everything has been fine, but now all the sudden on a verse with 5 tracks (main, doubles, adlibs, and two punch ins), only one track will bounce. If I select them all and do bounce selected tracks, only one of the tracks audio actually shows up. Individually, it's just a silent track that shows up. I even deleted EVERYTHING except the wanted verses and tried to bounce a master track and still no audio shows up. So these 4 tracks just WON'T bounce whatsoever, together or seperate.

I looked at all the properties and whatnot, and can't find anything different about the track that works and the ones that don't. All settings are the same, only difference is they are mixed a little different but nothing substantial.

What the hell?


edit: Now all the sudden it's bouncing fine, even with the old saved file. I can only shrug my shoulders and move on...computers.

Sco Dylan fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Aug 14, 2008

hmmxkrazee
Sep 9, 2006
why

Stux posted:

Is the Mic 1 knob on the ux2 turned up, have you tried turning up the volume on whatever preamp you are using in gearbox?

THe volume in the software is turned up and the mic knob is at about 6/10. If I make it higher it gets static-y and the "shhhhh" sound gets alot louder.

ChristsDickWorship
Dec 7, 2004

Annihilate your demons



hmmxkrazee posted:

THe volume in the software is turned up and the mic knob is at about 6/10. If I make it higher it gets static-y and the "shhhhh" sound gets alot louder.
Yea, that's called noise floor. Poor preamps have high noise floors. It could also be room tone, just the air moving/fans/etc in your room being relatively loud in comaprison to what you're recording.

What are you trying to record? If you're mic'ing a guitar cabinet you shouldn't be having a noise floor problem I would think. If you're mic'ing a finger-picked acoustic (without finger picks) or fairly quiet vocals it doesn't surprise me that you'd run into a noise floor issue.

Compression will actually raise the noise floor more than the gain knob probably will (no promises though). Compression will lower the program material with respect to the noise floor, so while the whole signal gets louder the ratio of signal to noise gets lower. Adding gain to the input will raise the level of the hiss, but it should also equally raise the level of the signal so it should be your most ideal solution.

Vetinari
Mar 25, 2006

by Fistgrrl
For some vocal training, I've decided to try out a fun project that I've seen before on these forums:

Acapella video game/well known tunes.

As in you hum and sing various notes and overlap them as the tune requires.

Does anyone remember this? It was a pretty fun thread but I can't find it and search is down.

bassguitarhero
Feb 29, 2008

Can someone give me a rundown on what changes they made to the gate in ProTools?

I used to use the gate & signal generator to create a low freq kick drum. There was a mixdown of my kick drum from reason as its separate track, going out through Bus 16. Then I had another audio track with a signal generator and a gate with its key input set to bus 16. When the kick hit, the gate would open and make the low freq so I could give the kick some extra oomph.

I updated to 7.4.2 and the old Gate stopped working. Now there's a new gate/exp but the combo doesn't work anymore. If I set the drum feed track to send to bus 16, then set the key input on the gate/exp, it just doesn't see it. I got the gate/exp to see the track by setting the track input to Bus 16 so I could at least see the meters being triggered, but on top of that, it has no effect on the signal generator. If I turn the signal generator up, the gate/exp will just stay triggered so I get a constant low hum.

Here's a screenshot:



It USED to work before I updated, I don't know what changed.

iamlark
Feb 24, 2007
huh?

infiniteseal posted:

Can someone give me a rundown on what changes they made to the gate in ProTools?

I used to use the gate & signal generator to create a low freq kick drum. There was a mixdown of my kick drum from reason as its separate track, going out through Bus 16. Then I had another audio track with a signal generator and a gate with its key input set to bus 16. When the kick hit, the gate would open and make the low freq so I could give the kick some extra oomph.

I updated to 7.4.2 and the old Gate stopped working. Now there's a new gate/exp but the combo doesn't work anymore. If I set the drum feed track to send to bus 16, then set the key input on the gate/exp, it just doesn't see it. I got the gate/exp to see the track by setting the track input to Bus 16 so I could at least see the meters being triggered, but on top of that, it has no effect on the signal generator. If I turn the signal generator up, the gate/exp will just stay triggered so I get a constant low hum.

Here's a screenshot:



It USED to work before I updated, I don't know what changed.

Your side chain input isn't engaged.

and your signal generator is bypassed.

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bassguitarhero
Feb 29, 2008

I bypassed the signal generator cos it was just putting out the signal without working, which is why it's off in the shot - how do I enable the side chain input?

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