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Sefer posted:Of course, maybe V just wanted to make sure there wasn't any evidence that the Order had killed a powerful nobleman lying around. "So, uh, Lord Hinjo? He's . . . he's, uh, he left the boat. But look at this cool armor I found! Completely unrelated to Lord Hinjo's departure."
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The only one who could use that armor anyway is durkon.
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ZorbaTHut posted:"So, uh, Lord Hinjo? He's . . . he's, uh, he left the boat. But look at this cool armor I found! Completely unrelated to Lord Hinjo's departure." This would be a slightly different story if V had just vaporized Hinjo.
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Sep 23, 2008 04:57
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Okay, I admit I laughed out loud at this one. That was a breath of fresh air.
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At first I was a little worried about the sith lord look V's got going on, but suddenly I'm completely for it. WEIRD.
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V is very Raistlin lately.
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Vanadium posted:What if you genocide an evil race? Didn't change the Sapphire Guard that did it in Start of Darkness.
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Sep 23, 2008 14:59
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Motherfuckin' elf out of nowhere!
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Sep 23, 2008 16:21
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Haha. Brilliant setup for the joke. Goddamn.
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Enderwastaken posted:Didn't change the Sapphire Guard that did it in Start of Darkness. They don't actually genocide the goblin race, they just slaughter Redcloak's village. You also get the story from Redcloak's perspective. It seems highly unlikely that the goblins were as innocent as they appeared, what with the worship of the evil god who is enacting a plan to unravel creation.
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The combination of the rings around V's eyes and the difference in their size for perspective's sake makes him/her look really cross-eyed.
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he just wants equality for Goblinkind, unravelling creation is like Plan F
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Zoolooman posted:Haha. Brilliant setup for the joke. Goddamn. Anyway, Alignment? Sheesh, when has that ever mattered to this webcomic, other than as the punchline to a joke? Really, I'm more upset that Burlew didn't point it out. Although maybe he's saving it for a later strip. Elan: "hey, back when that guy manipulated the law to keep me from killing him, it actually worked even though I'm a Bard. What's up with that?" Durkon: "Aye, well, lad, thar's somethin' I bin meanin' tae tell ya..." Elan: "What? Is my fly down?" Durkon: "er...yes, but what I mean is...well, ye've been doin' Good and upholding Law for so long that your Alignment's gone and changed." Elan: "...you mean..." Durkon: "Aye. Welcome tae Lawful Good, my son!" (holds out his arms for a hug.) Elan: "No! You're an illusion! I disbelieve! (sings) Disbelieve, Disbelieve, Disbelieve the illusion..." Durkon: "...it's not gonna work any more, kid." Elan: "NOOOOOOOO!!!" Scopedog fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Sep 24, 2008 |
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Sep 24, 2008 00:40
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Oh, please, Elan more than makes up for any lawful actions with his personality.
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New strip up. Click here for the full 732x933 image.
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I didn't think he'd top the previous strip, but I certainly got a laugh out of this one.
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Aww, Elan is illusioning himself friends...
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Sep 25, 2008 04:32
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drat. You tell him Elan!
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rantmo posted:drat. You tell him Elan!
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Rock on, elf buddy!
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That was awesome, but it makes me miss the V/Belkar dynamic so very much.  (Happy? Huh?) Nomenklatura fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Sep 26, 2008 |
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Nomenklatura posted:That was awesome, but it makes me miss the V/Balkar dynamic so very much. You're not missing it enough if you can't spell Belkar correctly.
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That last panel was the first time in a long time I've actually burst out cackling at something. Rock on, Burlew guy.
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All we need now is a reason for the Elan crew to ditch Hinjo and the fleet and get on with saving the world and ressurect Roy.
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At the risk of geeking out in an already geeky thread, anyone else get the impression that Hinjo is a late-commer PC rather than an NPC? Several times we've seen him in combat with "other" NPCs without the PCs or just before the PCs could get involved. IF we was just another NPC wouldn't that be the GM playing with himself? Every game I've played or ran, that sort of thing was flavor text or handled 'off screen'. Of course, the whole comic gets really complicated when you try and step back and picture the people playing the game.
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Geshtal posted:At the risk of geeking out in an already geeky thread, anyone else get the impression that Hinjo is a late-commer PC rather than an NPC? Several times we've seen him in combat with "other" NPCs without the PCs or just before the PCs could get involved. IF we was just another NPC wouldn't that be the GM playing with himself? Every game I've played or ran, that sort of thing was flavor text or handled 'off screen'. Of course, the whole comic gets really complicated when you try and step back and picture the people playing the game. Burlew's stated that Belkar is an NPC, so not necessarily.
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We've also seen exchanges that were completely between NPCs before; everything that happens with Red Cloak and Xylophone is basically the DM playing with NPCs, as was the stuff with the Oracle after the most recent visit. Didn't we have some exchanges with Therkla and her demon friend with no PC present? I mean its supposed to be a DnD game, but its also a comic strip and an interesting story. Its not going to always fit perfectly.
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I figure Hinjo started as an NPC, but with Roy out of the main plotline for now the DM handed his player Hinjo's reins just to keep him involved.
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NutShellBill posted:Burlew's stated that Belkar is an NPC, so not necessarily. Wait, what? I thought the whole original group were PCs?
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Don't forget the scene where Belkar kills the second Kobold who came to avenge his father by leading the fight into a tavern of "PCs." I think in this story, they just explicitly call any adventurer a PC instead of the usual euphamism, "adventurers." It IS a comic meant partly to mock the conventions of D&D, after all.
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Cabbit posted:Wait, what? I thought the whole original group were PCs? It's secondhand knowledge from their forums, which I can't find anymore, but the gist of it was that Belkar is a GM played anchor, which was apparently confirmed by Burlew. Take it with a grain of salt. People say a lot of dumb poo poo on that board.
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Wait, what's an anchor? Is this some sort of RPG simulationist/narrativist/punching jargon?
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NutShellBill posted:It's secondhand knowledge from their forums, which I can't find anymore, but the gist of it was that Belkar is a GM played anchor, which was apparently confirmed by Burlew. I'm taking that with a huge grain of salt. He doesn't fit a GM character in the slightest. GM characters are supposed to fill out a much needed role in a party, usually because there's too few players, and generally lay low and follow the party's lead so as to not influence their choices too much with GM knowledge(with the occasional "you idiots go this way" to keep the game on track). Belkar is just a munchkin player who's only interest in the game is being a badass and killing things. If anyone's a GM character, it's Durkon.
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Belkar's also pulled stunts like emoting about his tragic past just to get enough bonus xp to level up, which is hardly a GMPC thing to do. The OotS forums are full of it.
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New Strip! full size Uh oh, I don't like where V is going here. Taber fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Sep 29, 2008 |
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You know, as ominous as V is getting there, it's not the first time s/he has threatened the partys' lives. Remember the black dragon?
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It also isn't the first time he's berated Elan. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0128.html Difference is, back then he felt bad about it and apologized. This time he followed it up with a serious death threat. V's Sith Lord falling-to-the-dark-side subplot doesn't sit well with me. The justification just seems too flimsy. "Whelp, my magic isn't powerful enough to overcome an epic spell. Guess I'll be neutral evil then." Yeah, I get that there's other factors, like the shame of the helplessness he felt after running out of spells during the Azure City battle, or maybe guilt for abandoning Haley. The Emperor transformation still doesn't make sense to me.
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Really? It seems like your standard "losing sight of the forest for the trees" spiral into darkness, to me. Power corrupts, magic is dangerous/addictive (look at the VEINS on that elf), etc, etc.
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