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Drunk Pledge Driver
Nov 10, 2004
A kid went down on a local forum here... holy gently caress.

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Zenaida
Nov 13, 2004
Is he okay? I have the same bike, with the same tires...A little sobering.

Silver
May 12, 2001

Suzuki lover number one!
I still play TT. Switch between that and MotoGP07.

Fun stuff. I am still doing the get it to 100 percent. I have all the bikes except the very last couple you can win with the Specialty series. I really like the graphics on TT, but the racing on MotoGP is sooo much better, TT racers suck balls.

Ringo R
Dec 25, 2005

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Yeah, TT is not perfect but still my favorite motorcycle game. It's only fun with the race bikes though. All the other bikes are too slow and won't wheelie or wheel spin in corners. I found it surprisingly easy compared to the Gran Turismo games. Didn't have too much trouble getting all golds and 100%.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




TT is really the only bike game that felt like it had a realistic driving physics model to me. I didnt get the same feeling from the MotoGP games on 360.

I'll download the latest one and try it again though.

Are there any other good bike sims on 360?

autofella
Jun 3, 2008

Drunk Pledge Driver posted:

A kid went down on a local forum here... holy gently caress.



With damage like that, I'd appreciate some clarification as to whether that was purely self-inflicted or if another vehicle was involved.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

autofella posted:

With damage like that, I'd appreciate some clarification as to whether that was purely self-inflicted or if another vehicle was involved.

I'd put :10bux: on it being self inflicted. Usually tearing type stuff is self inflicted, and when a bike goes into the side of the car there's a lot more general damage.

But then again, I could be very wrong.

And that bike got hosed up. How was the rider?

Bird-o-matic
Apr 19, 2007

its u, your the one, the rill dill
i look into ur eyes and i see

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:ccb:
:ccb:

Phat_Albert posted:

TT is really the only bike game that felt like it had a realistic driving physics model to me. I didnt get the same feeling from the MotoGP games on 360.

I'll download the latest one and try it again though.

Are there any other good bike sims on 360?

Well MotoGP '08 is due soon... Just be sure to stay away from WSBK '08, it's terrible.

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Whoa. Wife Turds
Jan 23, 2004

FELLOW GOONS: WHEN THIS POSTER OFFERS TO BRAID YOUR PUBES, SAY NO!!!

Bird-o-matic posted:



They don't make you tape up/remove your lights at your track?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Whoa. Wife Turds posted:

They don't make you tape up/remove your lights at your track?

Modern lights tend to be plastic, so you can get away with just pulling the fuses. The whole tape thing was for glass headlights that'd shatter and then gently caress up tires. Some providers still do it because it's easier to tell everyone to tape their poo poo than to have to pick out those who have glass.

Bird-o-matic
Apr 19, 2007

its u, your the one, the rill dill
i look into ur eyes and i see

:ccb:
:ccb:
:ccb:

Whoa. Wife Turds posted:

They don't make you tape up/remove your lights at your track?

What Z3n said, only mirrors and glass headlights need to be taped up.

Drunk Pledge Driver
Nov 10, 2004

Z3n posted:

I'd put :10bux: on it being self inflicted. Usually tearing type stuff is self inflicted, and when a bike goes into the side of the car there's a lot more general damage.

But then again, I could be very wrong.

And that bike got hosed up. How was the rider?

Not really sure what happened. Rider has a broken collar bone, and maybe other stuff not sure.

French Canadian
Feb 23, 2004

Fluffy cat sensory experience

Ringo R posted:

I hope you guys don't mind me posting these here. Anyone still playing Tourist Trophy? Took these shots the other day.


Click here for the full 600x800 image.


This game is finally $20 at Fry's so I'm more inclined to purchase it. Does it hold up pretty well? I guess I wonder if I should wait for MotoGP 08 or something on the 360. Can I for serious spend like 10 minutes trying to go around corners without dumping it on full sim mode? I liked doing that in MotoGP3 for the PS2 a while ago. Seriously.

Turtle Parlor
Sep 12, 2005
village idiot
Last ride out my 2001 YZ426 decided to spring an oil leak. Not a little weeping from a seal but a full on gusher. I actually had someone come up and ask if my bike was on fire.

I took it back to the truck and used a loaner for the remainder of the day, thankfully a 3 hour trip was not wasted.

Today I decided to tear into it some and have a look. I figured out pretty quickly what the issue was:


A rubber plug blew off. It must have been spewing oil quite ferociously.
Also note the "mod" of the spark plug hole. It's a trick to get one out with that little section chipped off, with it intact it's got to be drat near impossible.

I bought this bike used, from a harescrable/enduro guy. It's got some pretty snazzy kit installed on it, problem being I dunno the extent of the modifications sometimes. So sometimes I run into bizarre things when fiddling with it. Take for instance the "oil elimination kit", it's there to rid weight at the expense of about 1/4 quart of oil.



The 01' YZs used an oil reservoir in the frame, and that light blue spacer on the case added back *some* of the lost oil capacity when the frame reservoir was eliminated. In addition to eliminating some oil, the mod drops the CG some.

The kit also got rid of some kinda oil line off the top of the valve cover, that's where the broken bit of rubber comes into play. I don't know where it should route to, or even if did re-do the routing what that would do. So I'm just going to re-plug it like it was before.

If anyone here has had the pleasure of trying to start a hot and recently dropped 2001 YZ426 you would know why I have been trying to make the beast easier to start. I researched and poked around the net looking for fixes and tips and finally found a modification that really seemed to help. Called the "BK" mod. Involves drilling and tapping a set screw to keep a small pump from squirting as much as the factory sets it at. So I go digging around my carb and come to find out that the BK has already been performed. GREAT. This thing musta been a real riot before that little fix.

And some random porno titanium 5 valve head shots:


obso
Jul 30, 2000
OBSOLUTELY
IIRC that smaller tube is the crankcase vent. Blocking it off with a cap is a pretty stupid idea (as you found out). Just get a length of rubber tube and run it from that nipple into the air box (or if you are sans-airbox then route it high and stick a filter of some sort on it).

You may want to double check that tho. I've tried putting all that info into repressed memory. Tip - a yz450f engine into a yzf450 is not the easy swap it's made out to be.

WTFBEES
Apr 21, 2005

butt

Turtle Parlor posted:

If anyone here has had the pleasure of trying to start a hot and recently dropped 2001 YZ426 you would know why I have been trying to make the beast easier to start.

What you need is an YZ450 (2003+) exhaust cam. They have automatic decompression built right in which gets rid of the "routine" all together. I don't know what it'll run, but all the 426 guys rave about how much easier it makes hot and cold starts.

mutt2jeff
Oct 2, 2004
The one, the only....
My '02 426 hot starts first kick pretty much every time. That's what the hot start on the carb is for. Everybody always complains about starting these bikes, but I just dont see what the big deal is. And getting spark plugs out in these does suck rear end, use a magnet for best results.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
gently caress LINKED BRAKES

Seriously I had to tear the bike down to THIS to flush/bleed the loving rear/front/mid/who-knows-which-caliper brakes on the VFR.



In order to properly bleed the rear brakes, you need to:
1) Remove the rear cowling
2) Remove the gas tank
3) Remove the exhaust (or slide it out of the way like I did)
4) Remove the wheel
5) Remove any dignity you may have because Soichiro's monster will eat whatever you have left

This is the poo poo I have to go through to bleed this behemoth of a loving brake system:



See this front caliper? I poo poo you not, it has two loving bleed valves (one for the front brake, one for the rear) and a loving master cylinder mounted on it. So when you hit the rear brake the center piston is activated which pinches the front brake, which then pushes the master cylinder mounted to the caliper and then pushes the center cylinder of the rear caliper. It's like Rube Goldberg had a nightmare about brake fluid and Honda tried to re-create it in person on the VFR.

gently caress you front caliper.


So then after you bleed that and the other front brake you need to move to this "PCV" valve mounted in the center of the bike, under the gas tank. Please note that the PCV valve has nothing to do with crankcase ventilation and I'm still at a lack of words why Honda called it that.



This thing is a bitch to get a wrench to and for some odd reason refused to bleed any fluid. Every other valve on this bike bled like a stuck pig which made this easy albeit frustrating to get to. Well I learned why it wasn't bleeding after I read that you have to tilt the front caliper with the master cylinder down to a 15 degree angle and hold it there while bleeding the PCV valve. I got a tiny bit of fluid out but that was about it.



At this point I'm feeling like I bought the bike and then the physical manifestation of all of Honda's brake engineers stepped up behind me and started fondling my balls saying stuff like "Oh you're my bad little boy" while I'm muttering "Oh Honda engineering-sempai!" and I'm feeling really uncomfortable while doing this because I know it's wrong but I'm going though the steps anyway in some vain hope that things will work out. Once I get my brake pads on Monday I know this fucker's going to have more air in it than Rush Limbaugh's head and I'll have no linked brakes to save my sorry rear end.



So finally you move on to the rear caliper which is stuck in a position that's pretty much impossible to get to while on the bike itself:




The only reason you can actually see the rear caliper right now is because I have the rear sprocket off as I had to pull the chain which was old and on it's last links.

I had to pull it off of the bike and hang it from the body with a coat-hanger like the horrible abortion of a brake system it is, then bleed it from there. Thankfully it went pretty quickly, but I'm still don't understand how Honda thinks you're supposed to bleed the caliper while it's still on the bike. It looks practically impossible to me.



That looks nothing like my bike does, Honda. Thanks.

Anyways after you finish all that bullshit you're pretty much done except for having to assemble the bike all over again. I know the linked brakes on this thing work exceptionally well because lots of magazines and racers like Lee Parks write about how linked brakes aren't as good at modulating brakes as a skilled rider is, but they always have a footnote at the bottom that says something like "Except the VFR800FI". I'm certain these things will save my rear end one day but honestly they're such a bitch to work on, and even now I'm unsure if there's air in the system. In a perverse way I think I'd rather have standard unlinked brakes back.

Also note to self: If previous owner ever says they did any preventative maintenance, it's utter bullshit.


A whole chain should not be able to bend like that.



That poor air filter looks like it hasn't been changed in the life of the bike, so I'm unfortunately stuck trying to source a new one for it. :sigh: The quotes are coming in around $60 for a K&N and about the same for a paper filter, so I'm not sure what I'm going to do.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Ripoff posted:

That poor air filter looks like it hasn't been changed in the life of the bike, so I'm unfortunately stuck trying to source a new one for it. :sigh: The quotes are coming in around $60 for a K&N and about the same for a paper filter, so I'm not sure what I'm going to do.

Is that a K&N? If so, clean it, reoil it, and you're good to go.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

Z3n posted:

Is that a K&N? If so, clean it, reoil it, and you're good to go.

I don't think it is an K&N because it has "Honda" plastered all over it and not one mentioning of K&N. Reference manuals state the stock filter isn't washable/reusable, but this looks too much like a K&N already. I'm actually half tempted to wash it and see what it looks like.

Meathole
Jul 25, 2007
Boy's have penises and girls have vaginas
Well, after much debate I have finally settled on a bike that satisfies all of my touring and commuting objectives. However, let us first explore what has led me to this point.

It all started with my 2000 Kawasaki ZX-12R. It's ridiculously fast and fun, but not that comfortable, nor does it have any storage to speak of besides the rear "seat" and a cargo net. I still have it even though it's been for sale the last 3 months. I guess everyone wants a Hayabusa or an R1.



Since the Ninja was for sale I decided to purchase a 1988 Honda Shadow VT1100C. It was a nice cruiser, had decent storage, but it was slow and really wasn't that comfortable on longer trips. I rode it for 2 months and sold it for what I paid for it.



After the Shadow I took a coupel of weeks to really think about what I wanted. I knew an FJR 1300, BMW, or Concours 14 would be really nice, but I couldn't justify spending $8,000+ on a bike. My options were wide open and then I stumbled upon my most recent purchase. I went and rode it yesterday, and aside from needing a valve adjustment it rode great. It has decent styling, plenty of power, great wind protection, and tons of storage. The price of $1,700 wasn't bad either. I'll be picking up my new-to-me 1991 Kawasaki Concours ZG1000 in a few days. I figured that the fact that Kawasaki made essentially the same bike for 20 years(1986-2006) that it was a decent bike. Hopefully it works out!

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Nice, the Connie should treat you well. Thats a steal at 1700

Meathole
Jul 25, 2007
Boy's have penises and girls have vaginas

Phat_Albert posted:

Nice, the Connie should treat you well. Thats a steal at 1700

That's half the reason I got it, because I know I'll be able to ride it for a year or two and sell it for at least what I paid for it. The bike only has 21,000 miles on it, and people say they run forever. Hopefully the engine clatter will die down after I adjust the valves. If anyone is iterested, there is a white 1986 Concours with 9,000 miles on Chicago Craigslist for $1400. I sent the guy 2 e-mails but never heard back. Maybe someone else will have better luck.

I believe the claimed horsepower for the Concours was around 90 or so. At 1000cc's it ought to be in that area. The torque curve was nice and flat, and it pulled cleanly in every gear. I was just a tiny bit disappointed in its performance(torque-wise), but I am sure I have been spoiled by my ZX-12, with less weight and about double the horsepower. It also looks like the 12 makes way more torque as well, but the Connie was super-smooth and QUIET, which is a nice bonus.

Valfar
Nov 12, 2004

Born to lose, live to win.
Uh oh



Seems like it's time to start thinking about putting the bike away for the winter.
This was taken a bit further north than I live, so it will take some time before we get snow here, but it was a cold reminder that winter is not far away...

Turtle Parlor
Sep 12, 2005
village idiot
Last week I thought I felt an odd "lump" in my power delivery on my 2001 Triumph TT. A kind of cyclic surge, speed dependant and not rpm. So I got home, looked the chain over and spun it by hand when on the stand. Could not replicate the sensation. Chalked it up overactive imagination.

Cut to yesterday, the sensation was gone and it was a definite thump in the driveline somewhere. So again it goes up on the stand and I pop the master-link and find this:


WHOA. Not good. The link had busted the roller too and hogged out the hole some.

gently caress gently caress gently caress. Scrambling around I find a chain that's 3 links short and begin a brainstorming session on how to fix this situation. End up grafting the needed links from two identical D.I.D 525 chains to get my needed 106 links. Took forever due to this:


Broke on the second rivet I tried to force through. Out comes the dremel and the cutoff discs. Cutoff discs should be re-named to "high-speed emory projectile throwers that aim for eyes", one slip or any sideways force and they come apart fast enough to garner attention from the Hadron Collider folks. Some more piddling about and I figure out a pretty slick way to get the plates off the sides while leaving the rollers intact. Basically it's grinding down the rivets flush, cutting a slot in the plate across the center of the rivet and then getting a burly pair of needlenose pliers in there to create some side pressure and the link will shatter.

Rivet type links went on with little fuss and soon the thing was buttoned back up. I ran it up to about 8k on the stand in 6th gear (round about 87 mph) and it was smooth as glass. MUCH BETTER. Soaked the chain in 50 weight oil and gonna let it stew overnight. I must be a perv because I could do this kinda thing all the time, even with the hurdles tossed in my way. Feels good to take a pretty poo poo situation and make it work out fine with limited time and resources.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
http://www.s1000rr.com/

Oh god. Awesome. I didn't think the new BMW would look so unique, but it's got a flair all it's own. The video where they circle around it is just...wow. Awesome bike.

I wish the track video wasn't taken with the test rider sandbagging in the B or C group though. I'd like to see what the acceleration out of the corner would be like against a modern literbike.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
eh i dunno, just looks like another japanese crotch rocket to me. japanschrott? nein danke.

i still like the hp2 sport a lot better:

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Sloppy
Apr 25, 2003

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.

My 1989 TW200.



Wrecking it (mud into engine, yay)



Fixing it



I miss it to death. I've been involuntarily bikeless since January. My dad is driving it at the moment.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




It would appear that you have two of them there.

Sloppy
Apr 25, 2003

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.

Phat_Albert posted:

It would appear that you have two of them there.


Whups, meant to post those in the Show Your Bike thread. Yeah, that other sorry beast was the engine donor bike, about the only thing on it in good shape.

eggyolk
Nov 8, 2007


I designed another bike.

Silver
May 12, 2001

Suzuki lover number one!
Sweet!! Very cool stuff. Looks a bit long in the rear, maybe tighten it up a bit, WHEELIE MACHINE! Now design me a 140 pound wet sport scooter that is putting out 50HP. :) :)

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

eggyolk posted:

I designed another bike.



See, now that looks cool. And you don't rely on an theoretical space time warp swingarm to get power to the rear wheel. You can tell from the picture it's a water cooled v-twin with a dry clutch, ZTL type front brake...it's a cool concept.

Your levers are adjusted a bit far down though, and it doesn't look like your forks have much travel in them before they hit the lower triple ;)

Still, minor application niggles aside, that headlight and tank/tail line is fantastic. Why the gently caress can't our new bikes look like that? :argh:

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
bmw is joining the busa crowd! 1300cc i4

bmw busa


bmw b-king


one or more of them comes with some kinda traction control poo poo so you can have squidly throttle discipline with no fear of wheelies.

Anuv
Apr 4, 2008

by Fragmaster
that bmw busa seat looks kinda awkward but who knows, it also looks a little comfy

and that b-king looks pretty boss

ranathari
May 26, 2006

by elpintogrande
How is that last one anything new? BMW's been making a K1200R since 06 - it was marketed as the world's most powerful naked until the B-King came along.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
neither of those are really anything new. they're just +100cc on the last model.

bung
Dec 14, 2004

This guy poo poo his pants

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005


I would have crashed not going to lie one bit.

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Jharkov
Feb 26, 2008

by Ozma
Went for a 13 hour ride on sunday on my new 950SE.
Love this thing.





http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/vashdrz400/12-10-08/eb1916cf.jpg

It flys on these sort of roads.
Overtook a BMW 1200GS mid corner, sideways. Just love showing those Beemers how its done :D

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