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Turbo Car
Sep 17, 2008

"[ELP posted:

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Anyone have any insights they can share about Impreza 2.5 Rs's?

I paid 6.2k for my beat-up 2.5RS Coupe. Yeah, that's a lot, but when I'm done I'm going to be able to get 9-10k for it (restoring it like crazy).

That is unless I drop an STi drivetrain into it. Stupid Subarus and their modular natural.

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StimpyBoy
Nov 27, 2002
I am the ones who are the balllickers.
Grimey Drawer
04 WRX checking in. I played with the Open Source launch control stuff today, 8.7 PSI boost on launch at 4500 RPM. Fun times :) I guess I'll try 5000 RPMs at some point though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFiH-4zEtZ8

This came with an XPT "Stage 2" map I bought, but evidently some of the 16-bit ECU patches are freely available.

dyne
May 9, 2003
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Turbo Car posted:

I paid 6.2k for my beat-up 2.5RS Coupe. Yeah, that's a lot, but when I'm done I'm going to be able to get 9-10k for it (restoring it like crazy).

That is unless I drop an STi drivetrain into it. Stupid Subarus and their modular natural.

I paid $10k for an excellent condition '99 2.5rs in 2005 (which was a little more than most people were paying). It had 80k on the body and 15k on the engine. The previous owner had a mechanic replace his headgasket. The mechanic screwed up and blew up the engine, so the previous owner got a brand new, dealer installed engine.

Registered Loser
Dec 29, 2006

I've been looking around at 04 STi's and I have found one that looks great except for one little thing, it seems to be missing some part of the intake I think?

If you look in the bottom left corner you can see its not on here. When it should look like this with the plastic part.


Is this anything to worry about?

The Notorious ZSB
Apr 19, 2004

I SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA BE FUCKING SUCK THIS YEAR!!!

Registered Loser posted:

I've been looking around at 04 STi's and I have found one that looks great except for one little thing, it seems to be missing some part of the intake I think?
Is this anything to worry about?

Nope all he did was take out the baffling which basically makes it a short ram air intake through the box. I did it on my car and it adds a little noise and possibly some more air flow. Its basically a cheap way to get the effects of a 200 dollar intake without spending the cash.

I'll say though that you should look at an 05+ MY STi. The 2004s are riddled with issues and are generally an inferior vehicle to the 05+ MY cars. I think the details of that are in this thread somewhere I'm sure, but I can elaborate if necessary.

Registered Loser
Dec 29, 2006

Zsbaug24 posted:

Nope all he did was take out the baffling which basically makes it a short ram air intake through the box. I did it on my car and it adds a little noise and possibly some more air flow. Its basically a cheap way to get the effects of a 200 dollar intake without spending the cash.

I'll say though that you should look at an 05+ MY STi. The 2004s are riddled with issues and are generally an inferior vehicle to the 05+ MY cars. I think the details of that are in this thread somewhere I'm sure, but I can elaborate if necessary.

Thanks for clearing that up man. Everything on this car seems to be bone stock and that was the only thing I noticed.

carticket
Jun 28, 2005

white and gold.

No go on the STi deal. The reason my friend was able to get such a good price was because they lowballed the gently caress out of him on the trade to make up for it. They started $3k higher than my upper limit and I got them down to $2k higher before I just told them that it sounded like I wanted a much better deal than they could give right now. Also, I would have had to buy new wheels and tires for winter. It was a great car, though. Got to test drive it. The shifter can't even be considered notchy, there are no notches, it's just either in gear or not in gear. The SI drive in I mode is pretty wierd, it feels like it just cuts the car's power in half, but I think all it does is adjust how your throttle input maps to throttle output, or it is at least a big factor. The brakes are also insane.

BannedForLulz
Feb 19, 2008

Registered Loser posted:

Thanks for clearing that up man. Everything on this car seems to be bone stock and that was the only thing I noticed.

If this is a dealer, it might not have been bone stock during most of its life. The Subaru dealer here swaps parts back and forth between their trade-ins to get the cars as stock as possible. So the reason that the intake tract might be missing is because that STi could have had an actual aftermarket intake on it at one point. I didnt let poo poo like that stop me from buying my WRX, but just letting you know.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
05+ has wider wheels and better front wheel bearings. There are a few other little things but those are the major items in my mind.

carticket
Jun 28, 2005

white and gold.

jamal posted:

05+ has wider wheels and better front wheel bearings. There are a few other little things but those are the major items in my mind.

I think '05 was when they switched to 5x114, too.

Lando
Sep 15, 2003

by T. Finn

Mr. Powers posted:

I think '05 was when they switched to 5x114, too.

Yeah, which is why everyone with a WRX wants 04 sti bbs goldies.

Over at nasioc, http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1646450

Someone is selling a 99RS sti swap. Looks pretty nice and a major sleeper. I'm curious on the trunk though, because someone actually DID put masking tape over the holes and paint it silver. Its posted over there as a joke. I wonder if this guy did it for real.

Turbo Car
Sep 17, 2008

Registered Loser posted:


Is this anything to worry about?

It's probably a snorkus delete. Like someone said above, this is a sign it was probably run with a cold-air intake and beat upon.

'05 is the best model year STi***. New front diff, 114.3*5 bolt pattern, upgraded interior, the list goes on.

***other than a Version 1 from 1993, obviously.

Turbo Car
Sep 17, 2008

Stock RS transmission with a VF43 @ 300awhp.

Run away.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Well, I know of a few 5-speeds with over 400whp. One of them broke 3rd though. It more of a "don't dump the clutch at 5k and flat-foot shift" than it is a ticking time bomb glass tranny.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde
Between the Outback/Legacy models and the Forrester, which has the highest/best ground clearance?

It is my understanding that it is my current understanding that it is the Outback model.

Also, here is some very impressive Subaru related video porn (very work safe unless you own a DSM):
ken block gymkhana practice

carticket
Jun 28, 2005

white and gold.

Lando posted:

Yeah, which is why everyone with a WRX wants 04 sti bbs goldies.

Over at nasioc, http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1646450

Someone is selling a 99RS sti swap. Looks pretty nice and a major sleeper. I'm curious on the trunk though, because someone actually DID put masking tape over the holes and paint it silver. Its posted over there as a joke. I wonder if this guy did it for real.

It was originally an STi swap from Rallispec, but it now is some Frankenstein block, which I'm guessing means the original professionally swapped engine is toast, and so it was rebuilt with various parts available. I'd also be wary of the aftermarket ECU.

Lando
Sep 15, 2003

by T. Finn

Mr. Powers posted:

It was originally an STi swap from Rallispec, but it now is some Frankenstein block, which I'm guessing means the original professionally swapped engine is toast, and so it was rebuilt with various parts available. I'd also be wary of the aftermarket ECU.

EH I thought it was entertaining, no way I would buy it. I like my 07 wrx very much:)

TurboLuvah
Jul 24, 2004

Scientifically proven to be more fuel efficient than hybrids!

Turbo Car posted:

Stock RS transmission with a VF43 @ 300awhp.

Run away.

Chances are that car is going to need a tranny soon, I know the older RS 5 speeds were stronger than the 02+ WRX, but it's living on borrowed time at those power levels.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

B4Ctom1 posted:

It is my understanding that it is my current understanding that it is the Outback model.
I think it's the Outback -- I was told at the dealership this is because the car needs to be classified as a "light truck" for CAFE purposes.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

BannedForLulz posted:

Any recommendations for an all season tire for an 04MY WRX? I have a set of Pilot Sport A/S on there right now and theyre great in the dry, but they seem horrible bad in the wet. Last night they lost all traction on a moderate stop and I slid halfway out into an intersection (with almost sliding into an intersection twice before.) I dont need the best per se, but something that I wont kill me.

Bridgestone RE960as. Wet weather grip is almost as good as in the dry - I think I've only ever lost traction a couple of times in the wet since I've had them.

Fantastipotamus
Nov 19, 2002

Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track.

Mr. Powers posted:

No go on the STi deal. The reason my friend was able to get such a good price was because they lowballed the gently caress out of him on the trade to make up for it. They started $3k higher than my upper limit and I got them down to $2k higher before I just told them that it sounded like I wanted a much better deal than they could give right now. Also, I would have had to buy new wheels and tires for winter. It was a great car, though. Got to test drive it. The shifter can't even be considered notchy, there are no notches, it's just either in gear or not in gear. The SI drive in I mode is pretty wierd, it feels like it just cuts the car's power in half, but I think all it does is adjust how your throttle input maps to throttle output, or it is at least a big factor. The brakes are also insane.
Did you drive it in S or S#, too? Or since it was unsold did they only allow you I? SI drive makes a huge difference in the performance of the car, as you noted. After my tune especially, S# is almost too sensitive to drive in traffic.

When we were picking up the new Outback, took a quick look at the pair of STi's they have locally and uhh.. yeah, $30k sticker was not to be seen anywhere. In fact, the two they had were closer to $40k than they were to even 35k.

She's got condensation in the lenses of her OB though already, so I think if it's still there in the spring, we'll be pulling her lights and baking them to remove the condensation, then sealing around the edges. The dealership gave us the "they're an open headlight and theres nothing we can do yadda yadda", so I'll resign myself to getting it out later.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





MMD3 posted:

does anybody have a battery recommendation or should I just buy whatever they have at Costco?

Buy whatever you can get for cheapest with the best warranty - there are only a handful of actual battery manufacturers, so you're just paying for different colors and labels on the package.

carticket
Jun 28, 2005

white and gold.

Fantastipotamus posted:

Did you drive it in S or S#, too? Or since it was unsold did they only allow you I? SI drive makes a huge difference in the performance of the car, as you noted. After my tune especially, S# is almost too sensitive to drive in traffic.

When we were picking up the new Outback, took a quick look at the pair of STi's they have locally and uhh.. yeah, $30k sticker was not to be seen anywhere. In fact, the two they had were closer to $40k than they were to even 35k.

She's got condensation in the lenses of her OB though already, so I think if it's still there in the spring, we'll be pulling her lights and baking them to remove the condensation, then sealing around the edges. The dealership gave us the "they're an open headlight and theres nothing we can do yadda yadda", so I'll resign myself to getting it out later.


I drove it in I and S. I was just commenting on how weird I(drive) felt. I didn't really get to stretch it's legs as it only had 20 miles on it, and I also wanted to keep a good relationship with the guy, since if the STi deal fell through (and it did) he was still the one selling me my 09.

The sticker price won't change. They are getting dealer cash based on the number of STis they sell. I was going to a low volume dealership, so it looked like they were getting about $2000-$2500 back per STi, since they offered initially $2500 off MSRP. The higher volume dealerships with enough 08 STis to hit the mark will be getting $7000 back per car, so they'll offer lower prices. I know for a fact, you should be able to get an STi with BBS in New England for under $4k. Depending on how much flex there is in your trade, you can probably get it down in the lower $30's (< $32k).

Also, if you know how to properly bake the lights, I might need to hit you up to help me with the lights from my WRX. At some point, I might want to black out the chrome.

MMD3
May 16, 2006

Montmartre -> Portland

IOwnCalculus posted:

Buy whatever you can get for cheapest with the best warranty - there are only a handful of actual battery manufacturers, so you're just paying for different colors and labels on the package.

looks like the Kirkland battery is ~$65 plus $9 disposal fee.

36 month free replacement, 100 month manufacturer's warranty.

Fantastipotamus
Nov 19, 2002

Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track.

Mr. Powers posted:

I drove it in I and S. I was just commenting on how weird I(drive) felt. I didn't really get to stretch it's legs as it only had 20 miles on it, and I also wanted to keep a good relationship with the guy, since if the STi deal fell through (and it did) he was still the one selling me my 09.

The sticker price won't change. They are getting dealer cash based on the number of STis they sell. I was going to a low volume dealership, so it looked like they were getting about $2000-$2500 back per STi, since they offered initially $2500 off MSRP. The higher volume dealerships with enough 08 STis to hit the mark will be getting $7000 back per car, so they'll offer lower prices. I know for a fact, you should be able to get an STi with BBS in New England for under $4k. Depending on how much flex there is in your trade, you can probably get it down in the lower $30's (< $32k).

Also, if you know how to properly bake the lights, I might need to hit you up to help me with the lights from my WRX. At some point, I might want to black out the chrome.
Yeah, the dealership in question up here pushes a lot of Outbacks and Foresters, but very few STi's, so they covet them and don't budge much on price. I don't think they're the type to budge much on the price.

I've baked mine a few times, once to black them out, and then once to *ahem* remove some condensation and reseal.. So yeah, if you need help, I'm somewhat familiar. I just posted about it on Nasioc, too. Still have my phone #?

I think the key to not stripping chrome off is to let the lights cool completely before taping them. I think a lot of people are in a hurry, and don't let them cool completely before starting taping them up.

carticket
Jun 28, 2005

white and gold.

Fantastipotamus posted:

Still have my phone #?

Actually, I just cleaned out my old phone two weeks ago so it could be donated. I won't be doing anything probably until the summer.

Bob Log
May 19, 2004

Hey, It's Bob Log

Mat_Drinks posted:

I have off and on shopped for a project impreza for a while... It seems like a lot of people think they can mark the price wayyyy up because the car is "rare". I'd ignore those unless there is something that really makes it above and beyond special. rs25.com is a good place to watch and you should be able to find a good specimen there.

As for the WRX swap, the main thing I'd want to know was done well is the wiring harness. I know a lot of people that do the swap have theirs sent out.

From what I've heard the reason more people do the wrx swap rather than turbo the stock engine is because the cost v. reliability tends to favor the swap.

I'm specifically looking at this guy currently: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/939932589.html

I was originally planning on finding one running swaping it for my daily driver, but If I can pick up something like that for around ~800-1000 bucks and build it up, do an engine swap and put my 5k-7k into getting it running how I want it. I have more I could put into it but I'm going to restrain myself.

Does anyone have any ideas what specifically I should be looking at as to other problems that may be of a serious nature? I'm prepared to write off the transmission as well as the engine, I know a good transmission guy who will help me along the way with that if need be.

Edit:
CL Post:

quote:

I have a 98 rs with a blown engine. and some dents and dings. I think it is a bearing but dont have the time to check it out. The car has a rebuilt tranny, 40k,ebay intake, newish excedy stage 1 clutch 20k,black guages instead of white, carbon fiber dash and guages cover, wrx tail pipe, kenwood stereo I believe, side skirts, ver 5 spoiler i think,and clear lights all the way around icluding jdm rears, and the head gasket was replaced about 50k ago,so is in good shape.I also have rear spats, that need to be painted. the person that I bought the car from had a turbo set up,oil pan is drilled for oil return and so on. anyways it is just sitting right now, i have around $1500 in parts so dont low ball me, I was hoping to get around that but make me an offer.



quote:

I got this e-mail from the guy in response to an inquiry about the car:

I dident check my oil and drove on low oil, started it once to let a 20 yr mechanic hear it and he said he thought it sounded like a bearing or something in the bottom end.it has been sitting outside for the last 6 months.The car is not scrap I was driving back from vegas 12 hours from my house,doing ove 95 at some points,on the way back I was in a hurry and did not check the oil ad that was the down fall. I did all the work on the car besides the head gasket so i never wanted to sell her but I got a wrx that needs to be fixed,so I am seling the rs.

Bob Log fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Dec 2, 2008

Qapf
Oct 20, 2003
Quack!
Hey Guys. I am thinking of getting an 08 WRX, as the local dealership here in Santa Cruz seems to be knocking about 5,000 off their 08 stock and I was wondering a few things. First, beyond NASIOC which seems to be filled to the brim with retards, is there any descent Subaru forum on the internet? What I am mainly interested in finding right now are simply the prices others are getting on 08's in the current climate of "Oh crap, we still have 08 stock sitting on the lot" that seems to be going on.

In addition, is there anything specific I should look for on this unsold 08 that might be the reason it remains unsold? This will be my first turbo car, and my first Subaru, and I kinna want things to go well.

ab0z
Jun 28, 2008

by angerbotSD

Qapf posted:

Hey Guys. I am thinking of getting an 08 WRX, as the local dealership here in Santa Cruz seems to be knocking about 5,000 off their 08 stock and I was wondering a few things. First, beyond NASIOC which seems to be filled to the brim with retards, is there any descent Subaru forum on the internet? What I am mainly interested in finding right now are simply the prices others are getting on 08's in the current climate of "Oh crap, we still have 08 stock sitting on the lot" that seems to be going on.

In addition, is there anything specific I should look for on this unsold 08 that might be the reason it remains unsold? This will be my first turbo car, and my first Subaru, and I kinna want things to go well.

As far as I know, the only reason they're going for so little is nobody wants them. The styling is considered by many subaru enthusiasts to be bland and the performance to be uninspiring. The cars are capable, and certainly nice, but (in many enthusiasts' opinions) they lack the character of the previous generation. Also the sticker prices were pretty high for what you get. Drop the price by 4k and it's pretty good deal.
Keep in mind most of this is just opinion, but opinion that I've heard firsthand from many of my friends that have had various previous incarnations of the Impreza WRX. If you like the car, and the price is low enough, then there's probably no reason not to get it.

Qapf
Oct 20, 2003
Quack!

ab0z posted:

As far as I know, the only reason they're going for so little is nobody wants them. The styling is considered by many subaru enthusiasts to be bland and the performance to be uninspiring. The cars are capable, and certainly nice, but (in many enthusiasts' opinions) they lack the character of the previous generation. Also the sticker prices were pretty high for what you get. Drop the price by 4k and it's pretty good deal.
Keep in mind most of this is just opinion, but opinion that I've heard firsthand from many of my friends that have had various previous incarnations of the Impreza WRX. If you like the car, and the price is low enough, then there's probably no reason not to get it.

Thanks for the opinion, I hate to piss off the entirety of Subaru owners but I like the look of the new 08 Wagon compared to the previous incarnation, the redesign is what caught my eye. As for the performance, my test drive is tomorrow and I'll see what it feels like. My previous cars will be a Toyota Camry and a Honda Element, so I am not exactly coming from a horribly high end car family to this thing. Maybe lowered expectations will help here.

ab0z
Jun 28, 2008

by angerbotSD

Qapf posted:

Thanks for the opinion, I hate to piss off the entirety of Subaru owners but I like the look of the new 08 Wagon compared to the previous incarnation, the redesign is what caught my eye. As for the performance, my test drive is tomorrow and I'll see what it feels like. My previous cars will be a Toyota Camry and a Honda Element, so I am not exactly coming from a horribly high end car family to this thing. Maybe lowered expectations will help here.

It doesn't matter what nastycock thinks as long as you like the car. Besides, every single time the release a new version everyone makes a huge stink on the internet, then a year later it's all forgotten. The 08 redesign was a little different, mainly due to the handling differences and price point.

Bottom line, we'll still love you if you get an 08, and you can still come to parties.

BannedForLulz
Feb 19, 2008

Qapf posted:

Thanks for the opinion, I hate to piss off the entirety of Subaru owners but I like the look of the new 08 Wagon compared to the previous incarnation, the redesign is what caught my eye. As for the performance, my test drive is tomorrow and I'll see what it feels like. My previous cars will be a Toyota Camry and a Honda Element, so I am not exactly coming from a horribly high end car family to this thing. Maybe lowered expectations will help here.

I came from a Toyota Corolla to my WRX and it felt like a goddamn rocket. Granted mine was already a Cobb Stage 2 (yeah, yeah, I know about the "stage" stuff AI), but you should still feel like the WRX is invincible in a drag race when you drive it.

Qapf
Oct 20, 2003
Quack!

BannedForLulz posted:

I came from a Toyota Corolla to my WRX and it felt like a goddamn rocket. Granted mine was already a Cobb Stage 2 (yeah, yeah, I know about the "stage" stuff AI), but you should still feel like the WRX is invincible in a drag race when you drive it.

I hate to ask the really stupid question, but not ever having a car with a turbo, I don't really know what the hell these mods required for Stage 2 actually mean. Could anyone explain it? What the hell exactly is a "turboback exhaust"

Edit: Wikipedia answered my question about what it is, so I retract my statement. Teach me to only look at the first 3 results on google.

Qapf fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Dec 3, 2008

Argon
Mar 16, 2001
The REAL Invisible Man

BannedForLulz posted:

I came from a Toyota Corolla to my WRX and it felt like a goddamn rocket. Granted mine was already a Cobb Stage 2 (yeah, yeah, I know about the "stage" stuff AI), but you should still feel like the WRX is invincible in a drag race when you drive it.

I've heard references to "stage" but I have not learned what it means. Have a link or a 30 second explanation for me by any chance? I'm still learning about my WRX.

Also, when I first got my WRX after selling my Honda Civic, it did feel like a rocket. An incredibly fast, almost out of control rocket. It is awesome. :D

Argon fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Dec 4, 2008

BannedForLulz
Feb 19, 2008

Argon posted:

I've heard references to "stage" but I have not learned what it means. Have a link or a 30 second explanation for me by any chance? I'm still learning about my WRX.

Also, when I first got my WRX after selling my Honda Civic, it did feel like a rocket. An incredibly fast, almost out of control rocket. It is awesome. :D

Well, when most companies out there release their products in "stages" its meant as a kind of "level of modification", where the Stage 0 - 1 type product would be a very mild modification (air intake upgrade, muffler, etc.), and the Stage 2 - 3+ would be a more extreme modification (bigger turbo, injectors, etc.), but in reality its very vauge and most companies love to throw the term around to help push product, which is why AI hates it (and why you find "Stage 9 Blow-off values and mufflers on eBay.)

Pertaining to the Cobb Accessport (which is hugely popular among the WRX crowd, please google this further if you havent heard of it), Cobb has a "Stage 1" and a "Stage 2" "off the shelf map." Its basically a little handheld programmer that is plugged into the ODB-II port, and through this handheld programmer you can now update the fuel/spark map thats in the car. The "Stage 1" map is made for a stock WRX and it modulates the fuel trim to get more horsepower and torque. The "Stage 2" map is for a person that has a full turbo-back exhaust on their WRX, so that this map can modulate the fuel trim more aggressively without risk of ping or detination, which in turn results in even more horsepower/torque gains that the "Stage 1" map. These "off the shelf" maps means you pretty much buy the programmer, plug it into the car, press some buttons, and you have now updated the fuel information for an improptu dyno tune. Pretty neat stuff. So what I have is the "Stage 2" of that off the shelf map. According to Cobb, this is good for +53 HP and +68 lb-ft (93 octane - typical gain).

EDIT: I should also note that both these "Stage" packages also increase boost slightly. Stage 1 to 14.5 peak psi and Stage 2 to 16.5 peak psi.

BannedForLulz fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Dec 4, 2008

Argon
Mar 16, 2001
The REAL Invisible Man
Wow, thanks for the info!

Qapf
Oct 20, 2003
Quack!
Evidently Subaru restricts access to owners manuals to people who own their cars, and not the general public. Anyone know a way to get a copy of the 08 Impreza WRX owners manual pdf? I kinna just wanted to thumb through it.

Mat_Drinks
Nov 18, 2002

mmm this nitromethane gets my supercharger runnin'

Qapf posted:

Hey Guys. I am thinking of getting an 08 WRX...

I know a few people have already answered this mostly, but I just wanted to mention that with the money it sounds like you could save getting an 08 over an 09 you could spend a grand or so on the suspension and another grand on some engine bits and have a car faster than an 09 that looks like an 09 while being cheaper than an 09.

I never got the whole "soft" thing with the 08 wrx because most people that want serious performance don't keep their car completely stock anyway so how stiff your struts or spring or whatever are is a moot point.

BannedForLulz posted:

but in reality its very vauge and most companies love to throw the term around to help push product, which is why AI hates it

It's the kind of stupid ricer term that reminds me of the "JDM pose" the was popular a few years ago.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
RE-08 WRXes

08 STIs are leaving lots for ~$27k, so if you have the means. . .

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carticket
Jun 28, 2005

white and gold.

I can get PDF versions of pretty much anything. Just PM me or AIM me with what you need.

edit: Everything is broken down into the individual sections, so getting things like complete owner's manuals or service manuals could take hours to find and download all the PDFs.

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